Sunday, March 21, 2004
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November 2003
November 2003
Sashaofspain,
Once again you put it all in perspective. Thank you for you comment. Gibson funded this film out of his own pocket and definetly earned the money he made while spreading a great message, so it really does not matter how he spends it. As I aid in my past post, it really is none of my business and I'm just really glad he made such a great movie with a wonderful message that can spread to people of all faiths. Once again, thanks for you comment :)
I think that, even though this film is very successful in theaters that it may be a failure whenever it is released to DVD. Many people that enjoyed the movie admitted that they'd probably never watch it again because of the violence. Also, I don't know how they would handle the release or special features or lack thereof on a DVD. There would be conflicts of "would adding special features be in bad taste?" Will they release it on DVD at all? Also, if the movie gets nominated or wins any awards, which it should, the people who think the film is anti-Semitic or over violent will fire up all the controversy again. Personally, I'd love to have the film on DVD to watch once in a while as a reminder of my faith and of what I believe in, but others will never watch it again. So, what do you think the fate of this film on DVD will be?
Once again you put it all in perspective. Thank you for you comment. Gibson funded this film out of his own pocket and definetly earned the money he made while spreading a great message, so it really does not matter how he spends it. As I aid in my past post, it really is none of my business and I'm just really glad he made such a great movie with a wonderful message that can spread to people of all faiths. Once again, thanks for you comment :)
I think that, even though this film is very successful in theaters that it may be a failure whenever it is released to DVD. Many people that enjoyed the movie admitted that they'd probably never watch it again because of the violence. Also, I don't know how they would handle the release or special features or lack thereof on a DVD. There would be conflicts of "would adding special features be in bad taste?" Will they release it on DVD at all? Also, if the movie gets nominated or wins any awards, which it should, the people who think the film is anti-Semitic or over violent will fire up all the controversy again. Personally, I'd love to have the film on DVD to watch once in a while as a reminder of my faith and of what I believe in, but others will never watch it again. So, what do you think the fate of this film on DVD will be?
Sunday, March 21, 2004
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September 2003
September 2003
TGP:
I am sure many have thought about this. What I think is that it is really nobody´s business. Why would the message of the film be lost if the producers decided to keep their money instead of donating it, or donated only a small portion? It is no sin to be rich, unless you live in the country that strives to be communist. Because the days of the Soviet Union are long gone.
Do you know that the Church leaders, both Catholic and Protestant, consider this film "the best opportunity [to spread Gospel] in the last 30 years, one that may never again come along"? Gibson already has done more for the Christianity than most other believers. What he decides to do with the money he earned is his own choice.
Of course, $200 mil. is a lot and that is what makes people wonder. But nobody is stopping nobody, go to Hollywood and do the same.
Sasha
I am sure many have thought about this. What I think is that it is really nobody´s business. Why would the message of the film be lost if the producers decided to keep their money instead of donating it, or donated only a small portion? It is no sin to be rich, unless you live in the country that strives to be communist. Because the days of the Soviet Union are long gone.
Do you know that the Church leaders, both Catholic and Protestant, consider this film "the best opportunity [to spread Gospel] in the last 30 years, one that may never again come along"? Gibson already has done more for the Christianity than most other believers. What he decides to do with the money he earned is his own choice.
Of course, $200 mil. is a lot and that is what makes people wonder. But nobody is stopping nobody, go to Hollywood and do the same.
Sasha
Monday, March 22, 2004
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March 2002
March 2002
Yeah, that happens a lot with translations. For example, in my review, I noted that angels are supposed to be genderless, yet when translating texts into English, the word "he" was used because English does not have a neutral/neuter pronoun. Therefore, we get used to the masculine form even though some things should be "it".
Monday, March 22, 2004
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January 2003
January 2003
TGP,
Regarding driving the nails through Christ's hands and not his wrists, when the bible was translated, the greek word for "hand" actually includes the arm from the fingertips to the elbow. Generically, hand was used in translations, and as such, most of the classic artistic deptictions show Christ with nails through his palms.
Since it has been translated this way for so long, many churches have simply taught it this way, even though the translation is too limiting. Rest assured that the vast majority of churches understand that the most accurate depiction is through the wrist.
So, you are correct. I'm sure Gibson went with a more literal interpretation for this piece even though he made many other artistic choices.
Sean (no Bible scholar. at least no priest collar)
Regarding driving the nails through Christ's hands and not his wrists, when the bible was translated, the greek word for "hand" actually includes the arm from the fingertips to the elbow. Generically, hand was used in translations, and as such, most of the classic artistic deptictions show Christ with nails through his palms.
Since it has been translated this way for so long, many churches have simply taught it this way, even though the translation is too limiting. Rest assured that the vast majority of churches understand that the most accurate depiction is through the wrist.
So, you are correct. I'm sure Gibson went with a more literal interpretation for this piece even though he made many other artistic choices.
Sean (no Bible scholar. at least no priest collar)
Monday, March 22, 2004
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September 2003
September 2003
Sean is right, and TGP is right. The Passion must have been a difficult one to watch (I will only get to see it in the next four to six weeks when it comes to Europe), so not many will want to watch it over and over. But others will because the movie means so much to so many. Plus, by the time it comes out on DVD it will have made much more in royalties. The analytics are forcasting that it will make about twice as much in international theaters as it did domestically. Latin America will be very welcoming in accepting the film because of the large Christian audience as, of course, Spain and Italy. Plus, since it is a "period drama", the movie may not be dated so it would be replayed in the theaters once every few years.
The churches are already using this opportunity. Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, one of the largest national organizations, incourages its congregations to buy tickets for distribution among the guests in hope to attract more members.
Must be a good movie.
[Post edited by Sashaofspain on Mar 25, 2004]
The churches are already using this opportunity. Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, one of the largest national organizations, incourages its congregations to buy tickets for distribution among the guests in hope to attract more members.
Must be a good movie.
[Post edited by Sashaofspain on Mar 25, 2004]
Monday, March 22, 2004
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November 2003
November 2003
Well, I hope you're right, and I agree with you. I certainly want to buy it as well.
I just noticed a pretty big inaccuracy in the film. During the crucifixion scene, they pound the nails into Jesus' palms of his hands. But, the palms of the hands cannot support weight of the whole body for the flesh would just rip and the body would fall off the cross. So when crucifixion was done they would usually pound the nails into the wrists or lower. You'd think that with all the research that Gibson did that he would have discovered this. Anyway, could anybody shed some light on this?
THANK YOU FOR REPLYING AND BEING HELPFUL WITH ALL MY COMMENTS!
(I learned about crucifixion from history classes and Confirmation in the church)
I just noticed a pretty big inaccuracy in the film. During the crucifixion scene, they pound the nails into Jesus' palms of his hands. But, the palms of the hands cannot support weight of the whole body for the flesh would just rip and the body would fall off the cross. So when crucifixion was done they would usually pound the nails into the wrists or lower. You'd think that with all the research that Gibson did that he would have discovered this. Anyway, could anybody shed some light on this?
THANK YOU FOR REPLYING AND BEING HELPFUL WITH ALL MY COMMENTS!
(I learned about crucifixion from history classes and Confirmation in the church)
Monday, March 22, 2004
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January 2003
January 2003
I think this film will have a robust run on DVD. Personally, I want to make sure my kids see it. Being that they are still very young (daughter: 2yrs; son: 7mos), now certainly is not the time. I look forward to being able to watch it with them, pause it, talk with them about what is going on. Overall, I want to help them understand not so much the film, but what Jesus did for them.
Also, the DVD will be a huge boon to churches. I think that when it comes out on DVD, you'll see churches holding events where they screen the film. I can see it being screened annually around Easter as most movies about Christ are. Look for a big box office boost this coming Easter.
As far as extras go, there are many avenues to take that would not necessarily go into the making of the film (although Gibson has already made a making of doc for PAX TV, a small faith-based network). There could be documentaries on Christ's life and teachings. Many times episodes from the History Channel are added to discs, much like the History to Hollywood special on the Passion. Also, Gibson likes commentaries, so I would expect one on this disc where he expounds on his own justifications for some of the artistic licenses he took. I think this will most likely be a very healthy release.
As far as awards go, I think the anti-semitism line will have played out a great deal by then. Most of the uproar came before the film's release and has pretty much petered out by now. The biggest thing it has going against it at awards time is its early release. February movies can be forgotten pretty easily by November/December. Hopefully the buzz this film has created will float it that far.
I am definitely going to buy it, and I think you will be surprised at how many people do.
Sean (mental note: DVDs after tithe...DVDs after tithe...) :D
Also, the DVD will be a huge boon to churches. I think that when it comes out on DVD, you'll see churches holding events where they screen the film. I can see it being screened annually around Easter as most movies about Christ are. Look for a big box office boost this coming Easter.
As far as extras go, there are many avenues to take that would not necessarily go into the making of the film (although Gibson has already made a making of doc for PAX TV, a small faith-based network). There could be documentaries on Christ's life and teachings. Many times episodes from the History Channel are added to discs, much like the History to Hollywood special on the Passion. Also, Gibson likes commentaries, so I would expect one on this disc where he expounds on his own justifications for some of the artistic licenses he took. I think this will most likely be a very healthy release.
As far as awards go, I think the anti-semitism line will have played out a great deal by then. Most of the uproar came before the film's release and has pretty much petered out by now. The biggest thing it has going against it at awards time is its early release. February movies can be forgotten pretty easily by November/December. Hopefully the buzz this film has created will float it that far.
I am definitely going to buy it, and I think you will be surprised at how many people do.
Sean (mental note: DVDs after tithe...DVDs after tithe...) :D
Tuesday, March 23, 2004
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January 2003
January 2003
Eddie,
You're right on there.
The New Testament was originally written in Greek, then translated into Latin. Most of the subsequent English translations (King James, etc.) were translated directly from the Latin which brought up most of the translation discrepancies sometimes to the point of altering meaning. Most of your newer translations (New International Version for example) have actually gone back to the Greek root to bring as much of the original intent as possible.
Of course, as Bill Murray and Sofia Coppola can tell you, quite a bit gets Lost in the Translation! :D
Sean (is that cheese coming out of my keyboard?)
You're right on there.
The New Testament was originally written in Greek, then translated into Latin. Most of the subsequent English translations (King James, etc.) were translated directly from the Latin which brought up most of the translation discrepancies sometimes to the point of altering meaning. Most of your newer translations (New International Version for example) have actually gone back to the Greek root to bring as much of the original intent as possible.
Of course, as Bill Murray and Sofia Coppola can tell you, quite a bit gets Lost in the Translation! :D
Sean (is that cheese coming out of my keyboard?)
Monday, March 29, 2004
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September 2003
September 2003
The Passion just opened in Europe. Very excited.
BBC said that even before the UK premiere the profits have risen to $300 mil.
BBC said that even before the UK premiere the profits have risen to $300 mil.
Saturday, April 3, 2004
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November 2003
November 2003
Does anyone know when this will be released onto DVD and what the DVD will contain? I can't wait to see this film again and be able to have this emotional experience whenever I want. There are times when I need to be reminded of what I believe in, and what better way than this movie? ANyay, if anyone knoes the DVD details, please share them.
