Thursday, April 22, 2004
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Yesterday, rumors were thrown around Wall St. about Sony who are in negotiations to buy MGM. If the deal goes through, Sony will add MGM's 4200-strong movie library to its 4000 movies and own almost half of the colored motion pictures available today. In today's industry, it is unconceivable that a single man, Kirk Kerkorian holds a 75% stake in MGM. The deal is romored to be worth $5 billion (yes, with a B).
Thursday, April 22, 2004
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Hock,
The thing with MGM is that its library is impressive, but because one man basically owns it (and keeps buying and selling it during a span of three decades), the studio has been unable to maintain a steady creative vision when compared to the other majors, which have the benefit of being backed by huge conglomerates who don't buy/sell as if on crack.
Numbers are deceiving, though. Yes, MGM owns that many titles, but most of them are bad, bad, bad (then again, most of all movies are bad, bad, bad, lol).
Eddie
The thing with MGM is that its library is impressive, but because one man basically owns it (and keeps buying and selling it during a span of three decades), the studio has been unable to maintain a steady creative vision when compared to the other majors, which have the benefit of being backed by huge conglomerates who don't buy/sell as if on crack.
Numbers are deceiving, though. Yes, MGM owns that many titles, but most of them are bad, bad, bad (then again, most of all movies are bad, bad, bad, lol).
Eddie
Friday, April 23, 2004
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August 2003
:o Since MGM holds the distribution rights to The Hobbit,
does anyone know if there are any Tolkien fans
in the inner circle of Sony? 8)
does anyone know if there are any Tolkien fans
in the inner circle of Sony? 8)
Wednesday, September 1, 2004
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A few months ago, I heard that Sony/MGM was falling through, and Time Warner might be interested.
well...
PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. has restricted its employees' ability to trade shares in the company, and could announce a deal to be acquired for up to $5 billion as soon as next week, according to sources close to the company. Time Warner, [owning New Line] which had three big hits with the "Lord of the Rings" movies, could be close to acquiring MGM, which has movie rights to "The Hobbit," the fourth story of the series
A few months ago, I heard that Sony/MGM was falling through, and Time Warner might be interested.
well...
PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. has restricted its employees' ability to trade shares in the company, and could announce a deal to be acquired for up to $5 billion as soon as next week, according to sources close to the company. Time Warner, [owning New Line] which had three big hits with the "Lord of the Rings" movies, could be close to acquiring MGM, which has movie rights to "The Hobbit," the fourth story of the series
Wednesday, September 1, 2004
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I know this may make me sound like I have a "one tracked mind", however does anyone see this buy out by Sony a possible "push" for HDDVD domination in the upcoming competition? After all if Sony holds the rights to so many movie titles, then they add MGM's library (and rights), wouldn't that be a brilliant marketing scheme when they finally bring out "Blu-ray"? Sony stands to lose A LOT of money if HDDVD wins out over Blu-ray. He whom controls the movies, controlls the HDDVD market.
Just a thought.
- Josh
Just a thought.
- Josh
Thursday, September 2, 2004
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December 2003
mra,
Actually, that's the opposite of what we're talking about. What you described would be a combination of ascending technologies. For example, even though we've got MP3/CD players for cars now that are obviously a technological step forward, you can still order a brand new car today with the "old technology" CD/cassette deck combo. This isn't what we're talking about. FM succeded AM, 8 track succeded LP's, cassette succeded 8 track, and CD succeded cassettes. We're talking about "competeing" technologies not being found in a "combo". Thus my example of "Beta" and "VHS" not being found in one combo... they were competitors, not successors.
- Josh ;)
Actually, that's the opposite of what we're talking about. What you described would be a combination of ascending technologies. For example, even though we've got MP3/CD players for cars now that are obviously a technological step forward, you can still order a brand new car today with the "old technology" CD/cassette deck combo. This isn't what we're talking about. FM succeded AM, 8 track succeded LP's, cassette succeded 8 track, and CD succeded cassettes. We're talking about "competeing" technologies not being found in a "combo". Thus my example of "Beta" and "VHS" not being found in one combo... they were competitors, not successors.
- Josh ;)
Thursday, September 2, 2004
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August 2003
Or how about a combo: cassette/8-track/LP/AM/FM m-a-n-y years ago.
I had one.:)
I had one.:)
Thursday, September 2, 2004
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December 2003
Maybe a better comparisson would be this. It would be like seeing "Beta" and "VHS" in one machine in the early 80's. ;)
Thursday, September 2, 2004
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September 2002
Chances are u might see the combo- Blu Ray and HDDVD. Pioneer came out with the DVD player which can read about SACD (Sony format) and DVD-Audio. You will always have third party companies coming out with product like this.
--Ranjan
--Ranjan
Thursday, September 2, 2004
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December 2003
Chrtrptnt,
Every time I think I've got a handle on which corporation will win out, something changes. I'm worried too, mainly because of the potential cost of movies if Sony wins. However, as concerned as we both are, unless either of us plan on buying a player in the first year they debut, we won't have to worry about it for a long time. If you think in terms of time frame, a year (or a little more) from March of '05, is when prices on "HDDVD" players "should" start to come down. At which point "Blue-ray" players will just be coming out. Which means Blue-ray will be the "more" expensive toy on the market. Now begins the battle. "Whom" will have more movie titles in "high definition". As I previously mentioned, if the MGM deal goes through for Sony, it could be Sony that has more titles. But if the deal bombs, it could be HDDVD. Either way, being that the "battle" won't begin until Sony brings their player out (a year after HDDVD's debut) the battle between the two might go on for a year or two after that before one or the other side relents. If you're keeping score at this point, that means it could be 2008 before one or the other side gives up, and we have a successor. I think we have some time to decide.
I don't think you'll ever see a "Blue-ray" & "HDDVD" combo. It would be like seeing Coke & Pepsi in the same soda machine. ;)
- Josh
Every time I think I've got a handle on which corporation will win out, something changes. I'm worried too, mainly because of the potential cost of movies if Sony wins. However, as concerned as we both are, unless either of us plan on buying a player in the first year they debut, we won't have to worry about it for a long time. If you think in terms of time frame, a year (or a little more) from March of '05, is when prices on "HDDVD" players "should" start to come down. At which point "Blue-ray" players will just be coming out. Which means Blue-ray will be the "more" expensive toy on the market. Now begins the battle. "Whom" will have more movie titles in "high definition". As I previously mentioned, if the MGM deal goes through for Sony, it could be Sony that has more titles. But if the deal bombs, it could be HDDVD. Either way, being that the "battle" won't begin until Sony brings their player out (a year after HDDVD's debut) the battle between the two might go on for a year or two after that before one or the other side relents. If you're keeping score at this point, that means it could be 2008 before one or the other side gives up, and we have a successor. I think we have some time to decide.
I don't think you'll ever see a "Blue-ray" & "HDDVD" combo. It would be like seeing Coke & Pepsi in the same soda machine. ;)
- Josh
Thursday, September 2, 2004
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June 2004
Now you guys have me all worried about which devices to invest in in the ever nearing future, blu-ray or HDDVD. Maybe all will be forgotten if someone come out with a blu-ray and HDDVD combo (like a VCR & DVD)
Friday, September 3, 2004
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June 2004
The Sony Playstation 3 is going to utilize Blu-ray if I recall. The last I heard there had been some 60 million PS2's sold in the US, If I recall correctly that is. So if the PS3 sells as well as its predessecor(sp?) Blu-ray will have a giant lead on HD-DVD market, even more so if they can get MGM. Now I am less worried about all of this, since I will be getting a PS3 anyway. Any thoughts or things I may be overlooking?
Friday, September 3, 2004
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December 2003
I think you're right. I believe I heard too that Sony would "eventually" have their PS3 "Blue-ray" readable. However, seeing as how the first Blue-ray "players" aren't going to come out until late 2005, possibly early 2006, I doubt you'll see a "PS3" with Blue-ray technology until the stand alone players have their own foothold. By that logic, you may not see a PS3 with Blue-ray until 2007, maybe late 2008, depending upon how fast or (if) Sony's Blue-ray get's a foothold in the market. Keep in mind, all the while "HDDVD" is selling players. You have to remember, we don't even know if Blue-ray will be backwards compatible and be able to read your current red laser DVD's! Now that I think about it, I really don't think it matters all that much HOW many movie titles Sony holds, if their player will only play "Blue-ray" movies, and their competitor (HDDVD) plays both HDDVD's AND old red laser DVD's. No one's going to want to spend an "arm and a leg" on a new piece of technology that only plays the new stuff, when there's an alternative that plays both. Not to mention the reasons I stated earlier. HDDVD will have a full year to sell HDDVD players to people, and market their technology. A year later is when Sony's will come bobbing along, and looking (to the buying public) like "copycats".
This could go either way no matter how you slice it. I don't think HDDVD will be stupid in their advertiseing however. They're fully aware of how much of a jump they'll have on "Blue-ray" and I expect they'll take advantage of that to get into the homes of as many people as possible before Blue-ray comes out. We won't have any idea which way this fight will go until Blue-ray hits the market, and we see how the buyers respond.
- Josh ;)
This could go either way no matter how you slice it. I don't think HDDVD will be stupid in their advertiseing however. They're fully aware of how much of a jump they'll have on "Blue-ray" and I expect they'll take advantage of that to get into the homes of as many people as possible before Blue-ray comes out. We won't have any idea which way this fight will go until Blue-ray hits the market, and we see how the buyers respond.
- Josh ;)