When people were waiting in line 6 weeks before eps 1's release on the sidewalks I couldn't believe it. They ended up creating a mini community with security, leaders, everything.

Can someone explain to me what it mean exactly when they say "bring balance to the force".

It's going to be sad to see Star Wars go. I suppose it's best to have it's creator at the helm when the ship goes down.

It's funny that a lot of us (myself included) had been waiting with childlike anticipation of Episode I when it came out. And even with all of the disappointments that both Episodes I, and II, brought, I find myself still having that same "I can't wait" feeling as I did as a child, now that we're less than a year away from episode III.

I love seeing the Star Wars movies opening day with the rest of the nuts. I have to admit it gives me chills to hear the audience roar in unison when the "20th Century Fox" logo and theme come up, as well as the Lucasfilm logo. Then the ultimate deafening roar when the Star Wars logo comes up with the symphony strike! Not to mention the cheers from the whole crowd in Episode I when Amidala ask's "what is his number" and Pinaca answers "R2D2 your highness". I love getting wrapped up in the whole "Star Wars craze"! It's like being a kid again. And now it's coming to an end. :.(

You know, it doesn't matter if you're a Star Wars fan or not, or weather people want to admit it or not, upon it's release in 1977, George Lucas changed Science Fiction movies forever with "A New Hope".

- Josh

Yeah, any entrance of Vader was creey with the breathing and the music. That's why his first appearance should literally shock the audience and make them feel uncomfortable. He's the man that goes on to destroy whole planets, and his relationship with Luke is the crux of the whole saga. i hope that Episode III is all around great, but the entrance of Vader is the most important part.

-"Have gun will travel, it's a part of a man. A knight without armor in a savage land..."
"Great! Who needs a comb you don't have any hair!"

Tim,

I agree with you that there seemed to be more behind Yoda's wanting to forego Anikens training. It seemed like he didn't have the patience to explain it to Obi-wan.

I don't think Quigon is evil. You'd have seen it in Episode I at some point. Quigon's character was always kind, and trying to do the right thing protecting Amidala and her crew. I think Dooku was just being a jerk trying to get Obi-wan's goat.

As for the shout heard from Quigon in the Tuskan Raider death scene, it was a sound bite from Episode I when Darth Maul is coming at Aniken and Quigon yells "Aniken, DROP!" I think Lucas' reason behind putting that sound bite in during that scene was to give you the feeling that Anikens life was flashing before his eyes. Because suddenly he's going against all the training and morals he's ever been given by both Quigon and Obi-wan. At least that's my take on it. Quigon was "rumored" to return in "ghost form" in Episode III, however I don't see his name in the credits on IMDB. So maybe that's a bogus rumor? I really hope Lucas wraps things up for us in Episode III. If he doesn't, where will we get the answers? Maybe we'll have to put together a Star Wars tribunal and prosecute George?

Maybe vanishing as a Jedi, has to do with doing something extremely special or honorable in your life? In ANH Obi-wan vanishes giving his life so the rest can get away. Yoda vanishes in ROTJ after bringing Luke (the last hope of the Jedi's return) to Jedi Master. What about all the Jedi in Episode II that died in the arena? You don't see them disappearing! The one Jedi get's killed in mid air, and then plumets 100 feet to the ground. I think the disappearing thing must have to do with doing something special before they die. Maybe it has to do with being a gentile "Mystic" or an evil "Skeksi"? After all Mystics disappear when they die, and Skeksi's turn to dust. Have we just started a game of "the seven degree's of Frank Oz"? lol :D

TGP,

I CANNOT wait to see Aniken appear for the first time as Vader!!! I sort of envision that moment being like when he steps out of the shadows in Empire when Luke comes into the Carbonite chamber room. Hearing that respirator of his suck in air, then pause... and slowly exhale... That scared THE HECK out of me when I was a kid!

"what the hell is Goofy anyway?" "have you ever noticed on wagon train they never get anywhere?... they just keep on wagon training"


- Josh

I noticed that the A and the E were starting to bend around the side...
Lardass! Lardass!
Oh Billy, I knew we shouldn't have boosted that car! Oh Billy, I think I just turned my Fruit of the Looms into a fudge factory!

Oh yeah, that's the greatest coming-of-age movie and one of the best overall movies. Ever notice how Corey Feldman was in every cool 80's movie? :)

You all yap about Anaken being the most powerful Jedi ever, yet, in the last film, Anaken was the only one to say that about himself. Quigon believed him to be the chosen one to bring balance to the force, but maybe when Yoda was saying “Difficult to see the dark side is” he may have been making his directions at Anaken. Did any of you guys ever think of that?

When you look at the already known facts, LUKE was the one who brought balance to the force and not Anaken. Fact is, Quigon could have been wrong thinking Anaken was the chosen one, and this might also be a clue to why Quigon did not vanish when he was killed. Quigon may have sensed the essence of the chosen one to come in the offspring of Anaken, he just wasn’t a powerful enough Jedi to figure it out – thus the reason he may not have vanished like other Jedi’s in death.

TGP,

Good memory! That's still one of my favorite films to date.

"now he said sick'em boy... but what I heard was... chopper, sick balls" "(beep) my fat one, you cheap dime store hood" "who told you you had a fat one Lachanze?" lol ;)

Tim,

I agree with you that Luke brought balance, but how does Quigons not disappearing tie in? Is this the after life punishing Quigon for getting it wrong? Aniken may have still brought balance to the force... albeit indirectly.

If Yoda were making his directions at Aniken, don't you think he would have convinced the councel to decide against having him trained as a Jedi?

I'll have you know Mr. Rayn man, we don't "yap", we discuss with great vigor! lol. ;) :D

- Josh

Yeah, but remember, Yoda didn't want to train him to be a Jedi. He said he was already too old, but I think there was a little more behind Yoda's thoughts that any of us know about. I felt there was something more to why he didn't want to train him, and I could see it in those little CGI/Animatronic eyes of his.

Yes, maybe Quigon's not vanishing ties into the fact that he made a choice that would eventually destroy the Jedi. Then again, Quigon is more of a rogue Jedi than most others. He breaks the rules where he sees fit and follows his own logic, rather than what the council sets as the proper path. We got subtle hints of this in episode I, Unfortunately, we only got one movie to see just a small portion of the character's development. Also, think about the conversation Duku had with Obiwan in the prisoner chamber. Would Quigon have actually joined forces with Duku had he known about what was happening in the Republic? Obiwan said, "Quigon would never join you, Duku!" and Duku replies, "Don't be too sure my young apprentice." Is it possible that Quigon might actually be . . . evil?

Regardless of the silly questions I keep coming up with, I just feel there may be more plot holes to come from the Quigon character. In Episode II, When Ani was killing all those Sandpeople and Yoda was meditating on the pain of it, you could clearly hear Quigons voice yelling "Aniken!"

To add to the question of why didn't Quigon vanish after being killed, I ask, why didn't Obiwan question the fact that he didn't vanish? If this is the way Jedi die, then why didn't anyone in the movie question Quigon not vanishing after death? To be honest, it seems like quite a big loophole in the story and some very bad story telling if you ask me. Maybe there will be some answer in the third film, and maybe not. Who knows?

I think an R-rating would be excessive, but a PG-13 would be great. If Lucas makes this film as dark as it should be, and the pictures do look dark and gruesome, than it could get a PG-13. But a PG is more likely. They should make the transformation of Anakin into Vader scary and intense. You began to see him change when his mother died and he killed all the sand people, and this should be that taken to the nth degree. I hope Episode III is sweet. I loved Episode II, and Episode I was not great but a worthy entry into the Star Wars series.

P.S. "All of your fathers are gonna get a call from me. Except for the loony up in Togas." :) I LOVE THIS MOVIE!

The definition of balance obviously means equality. If you take away one side of something, you've created "imbalance". So, maybe this is yet another of George's "plot holes"? Or... George could be waiting to drop an explanation bomb on us all in Episode III... mmmm not likely but, we can wish. lol

- Josh