Saturday, June 12, 2004
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Ok ok, I know I've been posting a lot lately. This will be the last for a while.
Sorry I'm a little late on this update.
For all of you out there that are fans of the Aliens & Predator franchises, 20th Century Fox has finally released a full length trailer for Alien Vs. Predator! Each successive trailer that's come out since the "teaser trailer" last October, has been better and better. They haven't broken with tradition with the new full length trailer. It's better than all the previous released! I read an interview with Visual Effects Supervisor "John Bruno" discussing various mountains they've had to climb in the making of this movie. John worked with James Cameron on the second film in the Alien franchise "Aliens". Which concequently tends to be the favorite of all the Alien films among fans. Bruno mentioned that Cameron used "real" effects, models, lighting etc. whenever possible, and only used computer effects when no other choice was available. "Real is better" Bruno said. They've implemented this same technique in AVP. They've also kept to tradition with rules and facts already established in both franchises. "From "Alien," we're taking the best of the first and second movies. And from "Predator," we're using the first movie as a guide" said Bruno.
As always, I have VERY high hopes for this movie. When you watch the trailer, if you had doubts before, they should be quelled after. The link follows:
- EXTERNAL LINK -
Enjoy
- Josh
Sorry I'm a little late on this update.
For all of you out there that are fans of the Aliens & Predator franchises, 20th Century Fox has finally released a full length trailer for Alien Vs. Predator! Each successive trailer that's come out since the "teaser trailer" last October, has been better and better. They haven't broken with tradition with the new full length trailer. It's better than all the previous released! I read an interview with Visual Effects Supervisor "John Bruno" discussing various mountains they've had to climb in the making of this movie. John worked with James Cameron on the second film in the Alien franchise "Aliens". Which concequently tends to be the favorite of all the Alien films among fans. Bruno mentioned that Cameron used "real" effects, models, lighting etc. whenever possible, and only used computer effects when no other choice was available. "Real is better" Bruno said. They've implemented this same technique in AVP. They've also kept to tradition with rules and facts already established in both franchises. "From "Alien," we're taking the best of the first and second movies. And from "Predator," we're using the first movie as a guide" said Bruno.
As always, I have VERY high hopes for this movie. When you watch the trailer, if you had doubts before, they should be quelled after. The link follows:
- EXTERNAL LINK -
Enjoy
- Josh
Saturday, June 12, 2004
Member since:
December 2003
December 2003
John,
I agree. We do seem to be smarter than the Aliens. We have done pretty well considering the circumstances humans have been put in with them. I can see the Predators winning outright, but at the same time, when Aliens can fight with such overwhealming numbers... who knows? Maybe we can make it a friendly wager? Just have our own little DVD Town poll on how many people think the Aliens will win, and how many think the Predators will win? That would be cool!
TGP,
No such luck on the Aliens "5" project. Sigourney Weaver said she'd be up for it a few years ago, but there isn't even a whisper of its materialization on IMDB. I think it's just being talked about right now. As we mentioned when first discussing AVP, the "Alien 5" project could very well lie in the balance based upon how much money they take in from AVP. However, I agree... if done properly it could turn out VERY well! I think it would be cool to see the "Sci-fi channel" start an Alien Vs. Predator series! I'm not sure exactly how they'd do that, but it would be cool all the same!
As for the numbers of Aliens to Predators?.... I know for a fact there will only be 3 juvenile Predators. The Aliens however... there hasn't been any numbers given out.
Director is Paul W.S. Anderson, of the aformentioned movies yes. He also did "Event Horizon". I thought Event Horizon was a good scary movie... not excellent, but definately good. As I mentioned in my posts above, Paul Anderson isn't going this effort alone. He's got the SFX guys from Alien II & III on board, as well as John Bruno Visual Effects Supervisor that also worked with James Cameron on Aliens 2.
I think it will be a great movie!
- Josh ;):D
I agree. We do seem to be smarter than the Aliens. We have done pretty well considering the circumstances humans have been put in with them. I can see the Predators winning outright, but at the same time, when Aliens can fight with such overwhealming numbers... who knows? Maybe we can make it a friendly wager? Just have our own little DVD Town poll on how many people think the Aliens will win, and how many think the Predators will win? That would be cool!
TGP,
No such luck on the Aliens "5" project. Sigourney Weaver said she'd be up for it a few years ago, but there isn't even a whisper of its materialization on IMDB. I think it's just being talked about right now. As we mentioned when first discussing AVP, the "Alien 5" project could very well lie in the balance based upon how much money they take in from AVP. However, I agree... if done properly it could turn out VERY well! I think it would be cool to see the "Sci-fi channel" start an Alien Vs. Predator series! I'm not sure exactly how they'd do that, but it would be cool all the same!
As for the numbers of Aliens to Predators?.... I know for a fact there will only be 3 juvenile Predators. The Aliens however... there hasn't been any numbers given out.
Director is Paul W.S. Anderson, of the aformentioned movies yes. He also did "Event Horizon". I thought Event Horizon was a good scary movie... not excellent, but definately good. As I mentioned in my posts above, Paul Anderson isn't going this effort alone. He's got the SFX guys from Alien II & III on board, as well as John Bruno Visual Effects Supervisor that also worked with James Cameron on Aliens 2.
I think it will be a great movie!
- Josh ;):D
Saturday, June 12, 2004
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November 2003
Does anyone know yet if there will ever be an Alien 5 with Sigourney Weaver? I think it could be cool if they do it right...
As far as who will win, time will tell. It depends on how many of each there are. Plus, the Aliens aren't totally stupid. In Aliens, they hid on the walls to lure the marines in before attacking. They can hide well, and they strategically attack their victims. So does the Predator, however. It's a pretty close match, and it will probably end like Freddy Vs. Jason did where neither one loses, or they'll both lose and kill each other. Either way, I'm going to go see it. This movie is a Paul Thomas Anderson movie right? He did Mortal Kombat (okay), Resident Evil (barely okay) and some other terrible movies so I hope he can succeed with this one.
As far as who will win, time will tell. It depends on how many of each there are. Plus, the Aliens aren't totally stupid. In Aliens, they hid on the walls to lure the marines in before attacking. They can hide well, and they strategically attack their victims. So does the Predator, however. It's a pretty close match, and it will probably end like Freddy Vs. Jason did where neither one loses, or they'll both lose and kill each other. Either way, I'm going to go see it. This movie is a Paul Thomas Anderson movie right? He did Mortal Kombat (okay), Resident Evil (barely okay) and some other terrible movies so I hope he can succeed with this one.
Saturday, June 12, 2004
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Given the Aliens' physical superiority over humans, I'd say we did all right in all four "Alien" movies, whether it took blowing up a ship or whatever to do it. That's because they're bigger and touger but we're smarter. I just see the Alien creatures as cool-looking monsters with little brains. The Predator creatures, on the other hand, are physically imposing AND smart. I dunno.
The movie is a clever marketing gimmick, and done right it should provide some fun. But unless the Aliens can attack in overwhelming numbers, I'd still place my bets on the Predators.
Say, maybe we could set up a pool? Yeah, well, maybe not.
John
The movie is a clever marketing gimmick, and done right it should provide some fun. But unless the Aliens can attack in overwhelming numbers, I'd still place my bets on the Predators.
Say, maybe we could set up a pool? Yeah, well, maybe not.
John
Saturday, June 12, 2004
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December 2003
Oh John... how easily we forget. The only Alien film where the humans "won" (if you can call it that) is Alien Resurection. In the first "Alien", "Ripley" had to destroy a $50 kajillion dollar ship in order to get rid of just "one" Alien! Even after she destroyed the ship, she found out it was still onboard the evacuation ship! In the second Alien movie "Aliens" the Marines had their butts handed to them by a hive of Aliens, and only one of the Marines barely escaped with his life at the end with Ripley. In the third "Alien 3" everyone dies (including Ripley) against only "one" alien, and the 4th "Alien Resurection" a few of the original group made it out alive with "hybrid Ripley" against another hive of Aliens. I think if anything else, it's been a stalemate!
To give you an idea of what's to come in AVP, towards the beginning of the movie, we're supposed to see a shot of a couple of Predators battleing a bunch of Aliens, drenched in Alien blood atop a pyramid near Peru. As the shot pulls back, you see that there aren't just a "bunch" of Aliens attacking them still, but hundreds... then the shot pulls back further, and you see THOUSANDS upon thousands of Aliens attacking the Predators! The final shot is the Predators activating their nukes, and ultimately destroying all of the Aliens, AND the Inca's of the period (explaining their historical unexplained disappearance off the earth). I don't think the Predators are guaranteed to win by any means! We'll have to wait and see. Either way, it's going to be a KILLER film!
- Josh
To give you an idea of what's to come in AVP, towards the beginning of the movie, we're supposed to see a shot of a couple of Predators battleing a bunch of Aliens, drenched in Alien blood atop a pyramid near Peru. As the shot pulls back, you see that there aren't just a "bunch" of Aliens attacking them still, but hundreds... then the shot pulls back further, and you see THOUSANDS upon thousands of Aliens attacking the Predators! The final shot is the Predators activating their nukes, and ultimately destroying all of the Aliens, AND the Inca's of the period (explaining their historical unexplained disappearance off the earth). I don't think the Predators are guaranteed to win by any means! We'll have to wait and see. Either way, it's going to be a KILLER film!
- Josh
Saturday, June 12, 2004
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I always thought the Predator creature was by far the smarter and the Alien creatures by far the cooler looking. If they are both equally well matched physically, I should think it would be no contest between them, with the Predators winning every time. I mean, if mere humans could defeat the Alien creatures, the physically much superior Predators should be able to handle them easily.
The trailer looks promising, though.
John
The trailer looks promising, though.
John
Sunday, June 13, 2004
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I'm putting my bet down on the Alien. John's right that the Preditor is smarter and far more advanced. However, Aliens have their strength in numbers. The Preditor may have some cool weapons, but, in close combat, they also have that acid blood to deal with. To kill the Alien, one needs a measurable amount of distance, because being too close to the Alien, you don't stand a chance. And yes, John, I would use a measuring tape that carpenters use to measure the distance. :D
I notice that there are humans in this upcoming film, so will there be any wager on their survival?
The preview does look appealing, but I'm not going to get my hopes up just yet. I still say this franchise needs a remarkable story to spark the interest of the movie going audience, and it's fans. So far, from what I can see in the preview, it just looks like a bunch of sci-fi, over produced action. Not that I don't enjoy action and cool CGI, I'm just saying I'd like to see a substantial amount of substance along with the eye candy. I really do hope this film does well, and God know this franchise needs a boost back into the mainstream. I'm just afraid it's going to be the usual "place the brain aside" and enjoy all the CGI and non-stop action. I guess I'm hoping for a little more, and the thing is, maybe I shouldn't.
I notice that there are humans in this upcoming film, so will there be any wager on their survival?
The preview does look appealing, but I'm not going to get my hopes up just yet. I still say this franchise needs a remarkable story to spark the interest of the movie going audience, and it's fans. So far, from what I can see in the preview, it just looks like a bunch of sci-fi, over produced action. Not that I don't enjoy action and cool CGI, I'm just saying I'd like to see a substantial amount of substance along with the eye candy. I really do hope this film does well, and God know this franchise needs a boost back into the mainstream. I'm just afraid it's going to be the usual "place the brain aside" and enjoy all the CGI and non-stop action. I guess I'm hoping for a little more, and the thing is, maybe I shouldn't.
Sunday, June 13, 2004
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December 2003
I'm with you on the Aliens winning Tim. It just makes more sense to me. I would put money down that Lance Henriksen (playing the part of "Charles Bishop Weyland" of the notorious "Weyland Industries" in the Alien Series) will survive. I think pretty well everyone else will get eaten, or splattered.
I think we have EVERY right to expect more from films now days. Since CG effects have dominated the movie industry, the expectation from storyline, plot, and just plain 'ol good story telling, has dropped dramatically. I think things will continue along those lines until we (the movie going audience) demand better. Even though we're all pretty well guilty of seeing a movie based solely upon it's CG effects, if we don't start to do something about it, things will remain the same. So I applaud you wanting more form AVP Tim, even though I'm a HUGE fan of both franchises, I'm not going to give it praise unless I truly enjoy it.
We have a couple months before we have to worry about it, but I look forward to the ride! :D
- Josh
I think we have EVERY right to expect more from films now days. Since CG effects have dominated the movie industry, the expectation from storyline, plot, and just plain 'ol good story telling, has dropped dramatically. I think things will continue along those lines until we (the movie going audience) demand better. Even though we're all pretty well guilty of seeing a movie based solely upon it's CG effects, if we don't start to do something about it, things will remain the same. So I applaud you wanting more form AVP Tim, even though I'm a HUGE fan of both franchises, I'm not going to give it praise unless I truly enjoy it.
We have a couple months before we have to worry about it, but I look forward to the ride! :D
- Josh
Monday, June 14, 2004
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January 2003
My money's on Ra. I think he got pretty ticked when Kurt and James blew up his last ship, so he's gonna come back for his pyramids, and the Lord be with any Aliens or Predators in his way. That dandy boy's gonna give them an Extreme Makeover... Actually I'm with TGP. I think we'll get a stalemate.
Haven't seen the trailer yet, but I do hope this will be a decent flick. Anderson's track record has been less than stellar, spotty at best, so I tend to think it's a longshot. Hopefully it's at least up to snuff as a good popcorn action ride.
Sean (...if not, I know what folks were snorting snuff when they gave Anderson the keys to this one...)
Haven't seen the trailer yet, but I do hope this will be a decent flick. Anderson's track record has been less than stellar, spotty at best, so I tend to think it's a longshot. Hopefully it's at least up to snuff as a good popcorn action ride.
Sean (...if not, I know what folks were snorting snuff when they gave Anderson the keys to this one...)
Wednesday, June 16, 2004
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March 2002
Ridley Scott's "Alien" borrowed heavily from the eerie music of Howard Hanson's Second Symphony and from Mozart's decidedly non-eerie "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik." Kubrick used classical music throughout most of his films almost exclusively, including the music of Bartok, Ligeti, and Penderecki in "The Shining."
Music should establish an atmosphere and/or underscore a particular action or emotion, not deafen us to what's happening on screen. Unless, of course, that's the director's plan--to take our minds off the fact that nothing is actually happening on screen.
John
Music should establish an atmosphere and/or underscore a particular action or emotion, not deafen us to what's happening on screen. Unless, of course, that's the director's plan--to take our minds off the fact that nothing is actually happening on screen.
John