I didnt mean to sound like a jerk, I just want to get the point across that yes the ending really is that bad!

Tony,

No worries, you didn't. I think TGP and I just want to experience the movie first hand, versus what has been leaked to the net. You never know what information you can trust out there. There are a lot of people with too much time on their hands that like to mislead people. The "Revenge Of The Sith" script is also supposed to be out on the net. I'll wait for the theatrical release on that one as well. It's sort of like opening your Christmas presents early, or reading the end of a book first... there's no fun in that. You and Eddie seem pretty convinced on what you've read and the source you've gotten it from, and that's fine... I just tend to need to rely on my own opinion from first hand experience. I've listened to critics in the past and missed out on seeing what were great movies in the theater, all because "critics" were giving snooty reviews, as well as I've seen what turned out to be rubish based upon their praise. I tend to agree with TGP in that what you see on a written page versus what's presented on screen may be apples and oranges. Granted what you've read may not be relevant to what appears on screen, and may be it's content as a whole... but who knows. As I said, I don't want to know what it is. I would however be interested to see if what is released to the theaters tomorrow, is the same thing you read on the net. :)

I may have to stay away from this thread tomorrow if you guys are going to talk about any spoilers after you see it. Unfortunately for me, my work keeps me from seeing "Friday" or weekend releases, so I won't be able to see it until Monday. :D

Yeah, I mean Will Smith said "no" to The Matrix because when you read about a bunch of hackers that plug into the real world that isn't the real world and beat up programs in suits with kung fu, it sounds REALLY stupid. But the presentation can greatly differ from what's on the written page. I never read leaked internet scripts, and I try my best to avoid spoilers. I also try to avoid posting spoilers, or I'll post SPOLIER ALERT in caps so I don't ruin it for everyone else. I hate it when people post spoilers without warning. It has ruined some movies for me.
I think The VIllage will be great. I'm seeing it tomorrow, and I'll post my thoughts tomorrow afternoon. Catch ya later! :)

Tony,

Sorry about the AVP mention, I was just using it as a referance to try and show that I wasn't trying to be a hypocrite. I too am still miffed at the idea, but am willing to give it a chance.

TGP,

I'm sure Shyamalan won't stick to the exact same format forever. I think he's too smart of a person to do that. As I mentioned, I think he'll realize it sooner or later. I would love to see him move on to something off the wall for him.

Well, if anything else Shyamalan has given us something further to passionately yack about! ;):)

- J8)sh

Sorry TGP, read your post too fast. I thought you said "I gave up on Spike Lee, when 25th Hour..." But you said "I gave up on Spike Lee, until 25th Hour..."

Thing is, I think you guys are jabbing at him for the wrong reasons. It’s been a long time that we’ve had a director that can do so much with little special effects that we have all been so accustomed to.

I like Shymalan for the way he produces, edits, and writes his films. The guy has an amazing eye for the camera, and Eddie, you of all people should appreciate that Mr. film college dude! In all my studies of movies, he does them in the classic element much more than directors and writers we have today. If I was to compare his efforts I’d put him close to Hitchcock and Spielberg. He’s the new guy on the block and no wonder people want to pick on him. Fact is, when you’re on top of the game everyone wants to take you down.

In my opinion, “Unbreakable” is his best effort. I just watched it a couple nights ago with my daughter. She’s never seen it but she was amazed how true and real it felt. And, this is an 11 year-old kid who is used to high action like “Spider-man”. It’s a crying shame if you can’t see that, and you only see it as a film that is too slow. It’s slow for the reason of bringing it down to a “real” level. It still remains as my favorite super-hero film just because of that!

I’m sorry guys, but I think the guy is the best thing to come around in ages. He’s had a hit record of satisfying films so far, and I hope his new effort does well. Granted, every decent director has his/her flops; it’s the nature of the beast. But to come in here and pass judgment on something to come is just ludicrous. Give the guy a freaking chance! After all, his films have been far better than a lot of crap we’ve seen over the past five years.

I agree Tim.

Actually I saw an interview with Sigourney Weaver the other day about this movie. She said that when she first read the script, she had nightmares the following nights! That should say something about the film right there! Sigourney has been through all of the Aliens movies, and the Village script gives her night mares?! I'm sorry, but that alone gives the movie merrit in my book! Sigourney is an accomplished actress, and quite the veteran by now. She's been in movies all across the spectrum. I lend considerable credence to her opinion. Shyamalan hasn't let me down yet. I only ever saw "Unbreakable" once in the theater. I don't remember that much about it, but I remember thinking it was a very strange movie when I came out of the theater. I have loved every other movie Shyamalan has done so far. It's quite an accomplishment today to make a PG-13 movie LEGITIMATELY scary! Shyamalan doesn't seem to have a problem with this. That's talent folks! Why don't we reserve judgement on "The Village" until after we've seen it.

- Josh

Tim,

Your words would be so true if only his movies deserved them. Like I wrote, I would totally dig "The Sixth Sense" if it had been a straight drama and not had that ending (which, again, ruins the movie because it negates a lot of what Bruce Willis did based on the rules that the movie itself establishes). "Unbreakable" just didn't do it for me. Something like "Jaws" is made in a similar fashion, and "Jaws" is way superior to "Unbreakable".

I dug "Signs" completely, so you'll get no arguments from me on that one.

However, in all seriousness, when you see "The Village" and its ending, you'll join the crowd of naysayers. :)

Eddie

Eddie,

I highly doubt that. Even if his new film is just mediocre in comparison to what the guy has accomplished, I will still see it as a favorable film.

Sorry dude, but you are dead ass wrong about “The Sixth Sense”! The ending was the coolest thing about that flick; just ask anyone who has seen it. And. If memory serves me, it was up for an Academy award for best picture, no? Think about it my friend, only five pictures per year make it into that category out of a few hundred that hit the big screen. I think this is enough precedence to give the guy a little respect.

Well, ya know Eddie, I love ya but sometimes I just want to slap the crap out of you! :D
I’m actually interested to see what script writing you come up with and would love to read it sometime. I just want to see where your thoughts are and what you feel is true film making. I mean, for the love of Pete dude, you’re the guy who has given the LOTR reviews a mediocre level it does not deserve to most people, including myself. I have a hard time understanding what you see as really good art in film. To me, all the LOTR films are masterpieces but you are the only guy I know that can rip it apart. I don’t get it? I have to ask, do your film colleges in class think like you do? :D Just curious. ;)

Fact is dude, why do you really want to rip on this film when it has not even hit the theatres yet? You sound like the people who ripped on “I Robot” before it hit the big screen and I ended up liking that film. You know, I just don’t trust anyone’s judgment anymore besides my own. I like Shyamalan’s films and I’m looking forward to his next effort. I really look at your opinion as being somewhat snobbish and ready to take the guy down because he’s accomplished so much in a short period of time. Good God man, you’re in an artist filed! Prove to me, prove to all of us on DVD town that you can do better. ;)

Eddie,

I know the ending too and it is rediculous. Stupidest thing I have ever read. If M. Night really plans on using it, I think it might reveal just what kind one note director he is. I like his movies so far, but seriously I am getting so tired of him. His arrogance drives me nuts. After only making 3 movies I remember him saying "One Spielberg and I know the secret to making sucessful movies." The secret? Universal themes in intimate settings according Night. Anyway, and all three movies end the same way: twist is revealed, montage going back to various scenes of movie showing us hints. Is M Night underestimating the audience and trying to spell it out for us? Or is he trying to remind us how clever he is? I agree he's talented, but the dude needs to make something different or I am going to sick of him realy quick.