Saturday, July 16, 2005
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July 2005
July 2005
I got here a Conia M220 stand alone player that has an awful voice volume. The DVD (Harry Potter) only has a 5.1 soundtrack. The downmix to stereo results in a hardly understandable (dynamic) voice volume. My question is - is this state of the art?
Are there DVD player on the market that produce an acceptable voice volume in stereo mode based on 5.1 sound? I don't have a suround speaker set and I don't plan to buy one. I just want a player that produces a good voice volume!
I understand my problem is not having a center speaker where all the voice sound goes. However, I think a player should be able to handle this situation properly by not just clipping the centre speaker off leaving people with a debris style whisper voice sound.
Anyone suggestions which player is doing a proper job?
Are there DVD player on the market that produce an acceptable voice volume in stereo mode based on 5.1 sound? I don't have a suround speaker set and I don't plan to buy one. I just want a player that produces a good voice volume!
I understand my problem is not having a center speaker where all the voice sound goes. However, I think a player should be able to handle this situation properly by not just clipping the centre speaker off leaving people with a debris style whisper voice sound.
Anyone suggestions which player is doing a proper job?
Sunday, July 17, 2005
Member since:
May 2004
May 2004
when you dont have a 2.0 soundtrack on a dvd and the dvdPlayer downmixes it you actually loose all the dynamic range of the track. The player is merging all sounds that are being placed on different levels of volume and different channels into just two. So dialog is a bit low, sometimes you get auto-volume adjustments (like when an explosion is heard the volume goes down by itself)and you have a very noticeable stereo lack.
My samsung P245 has dynamic Compression and i tried to watch a movie not using my amplifier. It simply sux.
My samsung P245 has dynamic Compression and i tried to watch a movie not using my amplifier. It simply sux.
Sunday, July 17, 2005
Member since:
July 2005
July 2005
and with that 2.0 soundtrack all is fine?
how can I find out which movie got it?
So what u tell me is that downmixing (by concept) is a bag full of crap? Yes, playing the H.P DVD on my Computer (stereo speakers) results in an even more overall mute sound - I would have to turn up my speakers about 300% to be able to understand a single spoken word.
I wonder why is the market selling (Stereo) DVD (movie) player when most movie titles don't even have an Stereo soundtrack like HP? Sounds to me like the movie industry is fooling with people. [:.(]
how can I find out which movie got it?
So what u tell me is that downmixing (by concept) is a bag full of crap? Yes, playing the H.P DVD on my Computer (stereo speakers) results in an even more overall mute sound - I would have to turn up my speakers about 300% to be able to understand a single spoken word.
I wonder why is the market selling (Stereo) DVD (movie) player when most movie titles don't even have an Stereo soundtrack like HP? Sounds to me like the movie industry is fooling with people. [:.(]
Monday, July 18, 2005
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March 2002
March 2002
No one is fooling anyone. You are listening to a 5.1 track with only 2 speakers. Therefore, you're not listening to what you're supposed to be hearing.
Tuesday, July 19, 2005
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May 2004
May 2004
Any average dvd release has at least two sound modes. Dolby surround and dolby digital. You should use Dolby surround (which is stereo intended for pro-logic use)
Thursday, July 21, 2005
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July 2005
July 2005
@ Yunda
I do have a Stereo DVD player and expect that the downmix to Stereo is done properly without any loss of volume in particular. Yes, I do feel fooled by the fact that movie DVDs are sold without stereo soundtrack(!) and without printed warning to stereo users. The movie industry should at least print a warning on 5.1 sound (only) DVDs that stereo sound is plain bad. What the movie industry currently is doing is reckless.
@ coaster
Well, I am not sure if a sound-mode makes any sense on a *Stereo* DVD player.
Harry Potter has no sound modes at all what I can see
I do have a Stereo DVD player and expect that the downmix to Stereo is done properly without any loss of volume in particular. Yes, I do feel fooled by the fact that movie DVDs are sold without stereo soundtrack(!) and without printed warning to stereo users. The movie industry should at least print a warning on 5.1 sound (only) DVDs that stereo sound is plain bad. What the movie industry currently is doing is reckless.
@ coaster
Well, I am not sure if a sound-mode makes any sense on a *Stereo* DVD player.
Harry Potter has no sound modes at all what I can see
Thursday, July 21, 2005
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May 2004
May 2004
SunnyBoy: Soundmodes im refering to are existing on the Disc it self.
Most of the times in the "set-up" menu or "Languages"
You allways have Dolby Surround or Dolby Digital. You select Dolby surround, which is a stereo soundtrack intended for Pro-Logic but will work perfectly well on ANY tv cause its an Analog Format.
As for "Printed warnings" ... they exist. on the back cover of each dvd you will see the dolby logo and the formats included (2ch, 5.1, etc) on the disc along with other information such as picture presentation, subs etc etc.
Most of the times in the "set-up" menu or "Languages"
You allways have Dolby Surround or Dolby Digital. You select Dolby surround, which is a stereo soundtrack intended for Pro-Logic but will work perfectly well on ANY tv cause its an Analog Format.
As for "Printed warnings" ... they exist. on the back cover of each dvd you will see the dolby logo and the formats included (2ch, 5.1, etc) on the disc along with other information such as picture presentation, subs etc etc.
Saturday, July 23, 2005
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July 2005
July 2005
@ coaster
I've no surround/digital (in setup or language) options on the DVD sofar - nothing at all like this in 'Harry Potter' and nada in 'Independence Day'. Just 'I, Robot' shows it but it's fixed on Digital 5.1 ..no way to change it.
Do u give up now? :)
Looks like the movie industry in not knowing what they do? :(
BTW, no printed warnings on my DVD cases - I even got the magnifier glass to be able to read it. Some state its 5.1 soundtrack - NONE state it's bad for stereo playback.
Looks like u cant win ;)
I've no surround/digital (in setup or language) options on the DVD sofar - nothing at all like this in 'Harry Potter' and nada in 'Independence Day'. Just 'I, Robot' shows it but it's fixed on Digital 5.1 ..no way to change it.
Do u give up now? :)
Looks like the movie industry in not knowing what they do? :(
BTW, no printed warnings on my DVD cases - I even got the magnifier glass to be able to read it. Some state its 5.1 soundtrack - NONE state it's bad for stereo playback.
Looks like u cant win ;)
Monday, July 25, 2005
Member since:
May 2004
May 2004
Nobody is trying to "win" you here, all we are doing is helping you solve a problem that you have with your useless dvd player.
Now, remove any disc from the player
Enter its setup menu.
Go to Audio and checkout the output settings. If you have 5.1ch output selected, de-select it. If you have Bitstream (optical-coaxial) selected, de-select it. If you have any "downMixing" function Enable it to stereo.If you have any dynamic compression stuff disable it. In other words, fix what u messed up in those options.
Make sure your TV's Sound settings are not set to "MONO" or "VIRTUAL DOLBY" in AV mode, just put it to Normal.
Put your harry Potter DVD in and dont select anything, just hit "Play movie".
Now, remove any disc from the player
Enter its setup menu.
Go to Audio and checkout the output settings. If you have 5.1ch output selected, de-select it. If you have Bitstream (optical-coaxial) selected, de-select it. If you have any "downMixing" function Enable it to stereo.If you have any dynamic compression stuff disable it. In other words, fix what u messed up in those options.
Make sure your TV's Sound settings are not set to "MONO" or "VIRTUAL DOLBY" in AV mode, just put it to Normal.
Put your harry Potter DVD in and dont select anything, just hit "Play movie".