Thursday, May 26, 2005
Member since:
January 2004
January 2004
I keep seeing this section empty, and I noticed the Plasma section finally got a topic, so I decided to jump in.
I'm running a Sanyo Z2 on a 133" wallscreen (to be replaced in about two weeks with a 133" Da-Lite High Power Permwall screen). I haven't been to the theatre since I bought it six months ago.
Are there any other big screen home theater projector owners out there? I can't be the only lucky one, can I?
I'm running a Sanyo Z2 on a 133" wallscreen (to be replaced in about two weeks with a 133" Da-Lite High Power Permwall screen). I haven't been to the theatre since I bought it six months ago.
Are there any other big screen home theater projector owners out there? I can't be the only lucky one, can I?
Friday, May 27, 2005
Member since:
May 2004
May 2004
Well, Bigger Screen = bigger experience. Is that a DLP or an LCD Projector?
But wait...what are those?
C'mon...lets review the basics of a machine that since the talkies is projecting illusions @ 24fps capturing our imagination.
DLP (Basic Definition)
Created by Texas Instruments, DLP, or Digital Light Processing, works by shining a light onto a semiconductor called a digital micromirror device (DMD), but not before passing through a fast-spinning red, green, and blue color wheel. As light passes through the color wheel, the DMD uses mirrors on its surface to translate the light to form an image, then reflecting the image onto a large screen. DLP’s are also lighter and narrower than CRTs, but are too heavy and bulky to hang from a wall. Burn-in is not a factor with DLP’s
LCD (Basic definition)
An LCD projector is a device for giving presentations generated on a computer. They are the modern equivalent to the slide projector and overhead projector used in the past. LCD projectors place a small LCD panel, almost always color, in front of the bright lamp used in all overhead systems, with the imagery on the LCD being provided by an attached computer. With no need to physically move the images in and out of the machine, LCD projectors tend to be smaller and much more portable than older technologies.
LCD Vs. DLP ShowDown
---------------------------
Texas Instruments released the results of the test to the public in March, 2003. In summary, the test results indicated that the two DLP projectors used in the evaluation delivered stable contrast and color balance that remained relatively unchanged for over 4,000 hours of continuous operation. Meanwhile, the five LCD projector test units tended to shift color balance and lose contrast over time. Based on the judgment of TI personnel overseeing the test, the image quality of the LCD projectors eroded fairly rapidly, eventually degrading to the point of becoming subjectively "unacceptable." TI defined this unacceptable condition as the point at which TI believed the picture quality was sufficiently degraded that an average user would not be satisfied with it. The first LCD projector was judged to reach this unacceptable condition in just 1368 hours of operation. The remaining four units were said to have degraded to an unacceptable state in 2160, 2352, 3456, and 3456 hours respectively.
Other than to say that the five LCD models selected for the test were popular products in the marketplace at the time the test commenced in May, 2002, TI has not disclosed either the models or manufacturers of the LCD units. They did release some limited spec information as noted below. However some of the salient technical specifications that might reasonably be suspected to have a bearing on the outcome including specific size and weight of the units, and lamp type and wattage, was not disclosed.
Texas Instruments claims that the results of this test are evidence that DLP technology is superior to LCD when it comes to "picture reliability" over the projector's anticipated lifetime. Picture reliability is defined by TI as the ability to maintain consistent image quality throughout the life of the projector.
Description of the Lab Test
The test was conducted at the facilities of the Munsell Color Science Laboratory in Rochester, NY. It was carried out in a dedicated 10 x 18 foot room. Eight projectors were operated essentially 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. These included the two DLP projectors and five LCD projectors already noted, plus an LCOS-based projector. The technical performance data pertaining to the LCOS machine was not included in the final report issued by TI since a sample of one is not sufficient to support any conclusions about the technology.
The two DLP and five LCD machines were portable-class machines. Six of the seven units (both DLPs and all but one of the LCDs) were XGA resolution. The fifth LCD unit was 16:9 format of unspecified resolution. The five LCD projectors consisted of three with 0.9" panels and two with 0.7" panels. The DLP units represented one each of 0.9" and 0.7" chips. Both DLP projectors were rated at 2000 ANSI lumens. The five LCDs had brightness ratings of 800, 1000, 1100, 2000, and 2000 ANSI lumens.
The eight units in the test were placed in fairly close proximity, from a minimum of 4 to 5 inches, to as much as a foot or more apart. They were placed on three shelves one above another, with several units on each shelf. They were arranged in a manner to prevent the hot exhaust of one unit feeding the intake vent of another. At the end of each shelf a fan was installed to blow air across all units on that shelf. The objective of these fans was to distribute cool air from the air conditioning vents as evenly as possible over all units.
The room was cooled by a central air conditioning unit operated by a wall-mounted thermostat located about 10 to 12 feet from the projectors. Average ambient temperature in the room during the test was 25 degrees C, or 77 degrees F. The actual temperature variance range around the average any given point in time was about ten degrees F, from just under 75 degrees to the mid-80's. Temperatures rose and fell in this range with the cycling of the air conditioning system.
The projectors were run round the clock seven days a week, with downtime for the changing of lamps and filter cleaning/replacement as necessary. They were all fed the same computer data signal with rotating graphic images to prevent burn-in. Technical performance measurements were taken at days 0, 1, 2, and 4; weeks 1, 2, and 4; and months 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Results as reported by Texas Instruments
At the end of about 4700 hours of operation, TI summarized the results as follows:
1. Full On/Off, and ANSI contrast degraded over time on all five LCD units, but remained relatively constant on the two DLPs.
2. The optical degradation seen in the LCDs washed the picture out and raised the dark levels.
3. Color chromaticity remained stable on the DLPs, but significant changes were seen in the LCDs. There was a visible yellowing of the image on all the units, and some later developed a "blue blemish" as well.
4. The pattern of degradation was the same on all five LCD products tested. The degradation occurred first in the blue channel. TI's theory is that the organic compounds in the polarizer and LCD panel were breaking down under exposure to high frequency blue and UV light. Eventually there are signs of breakdown in the red and green channels as well.
5. The first of the LCD projectors to fail was judged by TI personnel to have reached an unacceptable condition in 1368 hours of operation. Subsequent failure of the other four units occurred at 2160, 2352, 3456, and 3456 hours.
Based on these test results, TI suggests that a fundamental flaw exists in LCD technology that causes the picture quality it delivers to deteriorate well before the end of life of the projector itself might be expected. Because DLP technology is allegedly immune to degradation, it is purported to offer a lower cost-of-ownership since DLP projectors do not need to be replaced as often as LCD-based products.
Analysis and Comment
While the test conducted by TI clearly highlights a failure mode in LCD panels and polarizers, the public must take care not to jump to the conclusion that the failure rates produced in the lab are in any way indicative of expected failure rates in the field. To the contrary, the statistical results in this test do not match up well with general marketplace experience.
To illustrate, let's assume a typical three-hour per day usage on a portable projector. If it fails in just 1368 hours as one of the units did in this test, that translates to a usable lifespan of about 15 months. Taking it one step further, TI's test results indicate that three of the five units (60% of the test population) failed in 2352 hours or less. If we were to use this data to predict the lifespan of LCD projectors in general, we would conclude that with a typical 3-hour per day usage, 60% of all LCD projectors sold would degrade into a condition unacceptable to the user in just a bit over two years.
This extrapolation is not credible. LCD is by far the most popular projector technology in the marketplace, outselling DLP worldwide by a factor of about three-to-one in the last 18 months. Major brand manufacturers including Epson, Panasonic, Sharp, and Sony have projector product lines either exclusively based upon LCD technology or heavily oriented toward it. These companies have outstanding reputations for quality and are not known for marketing products that routinely degrade to failure within a year or two.
Furthermore, the major LCD manufacturers do not have truckloads of bad units coming back from users and dealers. If they did, they would quickly discontinue those LCD product lines since the cost of warranty repair claims would be unbearable. Dealers would stop carrying them to avoid customer complaints, the cost of handling returned items, and the damage to their own reputations for having recommended faulty merchandise. None of this is happening. So there is no evidence that the failure rates documented in the test correspond in any realistic way to typical LCD performance in the field.
So what happened in the test to skew the results?
There is no doubt that a common failure mode appeared in all five LCD products in the test. We are confident that the measurements taken by Munsell Color Lab are reliable. We are also confident in TI's representation that image quality on the LCD units in question degraded significantly in unusually short periods of time. The question is what could have caused this to occur? We believe some factor or combination of factors not present under typical usage was acting upon the units in the lab test, and that these factors accelerated failure rates to an alarming degree. We need to examine what those influences might have been. Possibilities include the following:
1. 24x7 operation. Clearly an obvious difference between the test environment and typical usage was 24x7 operation. The vast majority of LCD projectors sold are not deployed in 24x7 duty cycles. Constant round the clock operation is a high stress factor that contributes to a breakdown of compounds in the polarizers and panels if they are not properly cooled. Because of this projector manufacturers who build products intended for 24x7 operation typically use larger LCD panels, include comprehensive UV protection, and build them into larger form factors with substantial cooling systems that move large volumes of air. Units with this type of design were not included in the test.
2. Exclusive use of portables. When it comes to making any generalizations about LCD technology's reliability, the test is inconclusive since it used portable units exclusively. Portable projectors by their nature are restricted in their ability to keep panels cool. They simply cannot move volumes of air without making a lot of noise which nobody wants. Thus internal operating temperatures in portables tend to be higher than those in larger LCD projectors. As designed they are not really intended to be deployed in round the clock operation. Yet the test was conducted using portables exclusively under 24x7 operation.
3. Higher than normal ambient temperatures. With heat management already known to be an issue in portable projectors, we believe the test would have been more indicative of real world results had ambient temperatures been maintained at 72 degrees rather than 77 degrees with periodic swings into the mid-80s. The ambient temperature has a direct impact on the efficiency of a projector's cooling system. The hotter the panels and polarizers are, the more susceptible they will be to damage from high intensity light. By selecting products that already have limited cooling capacity, running them 24x7, and then adding a warmer than normal environment into the equation, it is possible that this combination of factors could account for rapid degradation not typically experienced in normal usage.
4. Interactive radiant heat. All projectors, and especially portables, rely upon radiant heat being dissipated through the casework as an integral part of their cooling mechanism. Most user manuals recommend minimum clearances to allow for this. They also frequently state that under no circumstance should a projector be operated in close proximity to another heat source.
Certainly a projector is a heat source. As the units in the lab were set up, with the units placed as close as 4 to 5 inches apart, it is possible that their ability to dissipate radiant heat was inhibited. If so, this would have been another contributing factor to higher than normal internal operating temperatures. The external fans used by the lab should have mitigated this. But given the test results we cannot help but suspect that units positioned that closely together may have had a mutual warming effect upon one another.
Conclusion
Manufacturers recognize that the organic compounds in LCD panels and polarizers are susceptible to high heat and light energy stress, and will eventually break down if deployed in high stress environments—in particular 24x7 operation with higher than normal ambient temperatures. Compact portable LCD projectors are in general not recommended for 24x7 duty cycles because of this.
On the other hand, DLP technology does not use organic compounds. Thus the elements which can be expected to degrade over time under high stress in an LCD projector do not exist in a DLP projector. Therefore when these two technologies are placed side-by-side in an unusually high stress environment as they were in this test, the DLP-based products should be more resistant to image shift over time. TI's test demonstrated this in no uncertain terms.
We agree with TI's assessment that high intensity blue and UV light in the blue channel contributes to accelerated breakdown of the organic compounds in that channel. However degradation due to high intensity light is not normally expected to occur at the rates documented in the test unless the components are subjected simultaneously to abnormally high heat stress. Therefore we suspect that 24x7 operation, higher than normal ambient temperatures, and the close proximity of the test units to one another may have combined to create abnormal conditions that led to a more rapid and severe degradation of the components than users would typically experience.
Thus the generalized inference that many observers have drawn from the test data, which is that LCD technology itself may be expected to routinely break down under normal usage before the expected lifespan of the projector, is difficult to sustain based upon the limited sample size and the abnormal conditions we believe may have existed in the lab.
The test at Munsell Color Science Lab clearly draws attention to the fact that LCD technology has a failure mode that does not exist with DLP, and that this failure mode becomes readily apparent in an unusually high stress environment. What the test does not tell us is how much of a problem this really is in real life. In addition to the test results there is ancedotal evidence of LCDs eventually breaking down in extended use applications. When this occurs the problem is usually fixed by replacing the LCD panel and polarizer in the blue channel. But for the most part typical users of LCD projectors do not seem to experience either the severity of degradation or the rapidity with which it occurred in this particular lab test.
As you can see from the paste from - EXTERNAL LINK - its test is quite old. LCD Projectors like LCD TV's have advanced. But still, DLP Projectors last longer and look better.
ToolTimeDVDTOWN= TFT Projector, DIY!
Remember all those large, bulky projector what you used to pass a slide through and get the image on your wall? They are quite cheap....and they have very strong lamps in them. So...with about $300 + the price of a 15'' monitor you can have your own LCD XGA Projector (XGA as in High Definition). There was a guide sold at e-bay some time ago..but some tech geeks from - EXTERNAL LINK - were kind enough to create their own and post the details:- EXTERNAL LINK -
Suitable Monitor Models: - EXTERNAL LINK -
Have Fun.
But wait...what are those?
C'mon...lets review the basics of a machine that since the talkies is projecting illusions @ 24fps capturing our imagination.
DLP (Basic Definition)
Created by Texas Instruments, DLP, or Digital Light Processing, works by shining a light onto a semiconductor called a digital micromirror device (DMD), but not before passing through a fast-spinning red, green, and blue color wheel. As light passes through the color wheel, the DMD uses mirrors on its surface to translate the light to form an image, then reflecting the image onto a large screen. DLP’s are also lighter and narrower than CRTs, but are too heavy and bulky to hang from a wall. Burn-in is not a factor with DLP’s
LCD (Basic definition)
An LCD projector is a device for giving presentations generated on a computer. They are the modern equivalent to the slide projector and overhead projector used in the past. LCD projectors place a small LCD panel, almost always color, in front of the bright lamp used in all overhead systems, with the imagery on the LCD being provided by an attached computer. With no need to physically move the images in and out of the machine, LCD projectors tend to be smaller and much more portable than older technologies.
LCD Vs. DLP ShowDown
---------------------------
Texas Instruments released the results of the test to the public in March, 2003. In summary, the test results indicated that the two DLP projectors used in the evaluation delivered stable contrast and color balance that remained relatively unchanged for over 4,000 hours of continuous operation. Meanwhile, the five LCD projector test units tended to shift color balance and lose contrast over time. Based on the judgment of TI personnel overseeing the test, the image quality of the LCD projectors eroded fairly rapidly, eventually degrading to the point of becoming subjectively "unacceptable." TI defined this unacceptable condition as the point at which TI believed the picture quality was sufficiently degraded that an average user would not be satisfied with it. The first LCD projector was judged to reach this unacceptable condition in just 1368 hours of operation. The remaining four units were said to have degraded to an unacceptable state in 2160, 2352, 3456, and 3456 hours respectively.
Other than to say that the five LCD models selected for the test were popular products in the marketplace at the time the test commenced in May, 2002, TI has not disclosed either the models or manufacturers of the LCD units. They did release some limited spec information as noted below. However some of the salient technical specifications that might reasonably be suspected to have a bearing on the outcome including specific size and weight of the units, and lamp type and wattage, was not disclosed.
Texas Instruments claims that the results of this test are evidence that DLP technology is superior to LCD when it comes to "picture reliability" over the projector's anticipated lifetime. Picture reliability is defined by TI as the ability to maintain consistent image quality throughout the life of the projector.
Description of the Lab Test
The test was conducted at the facilities of the Munsell Color Science Laboratory in Rochester, NY. It was carried out in a dedicated 10 x 18 foot room. Eight projectors were operated essentially 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. These included the two DLP projectors and five LCD projectors already noted, plus an LCOS-based projector. The technical performance data pertaining to the LCOS machine was not included in the final report issued by TI since a sample of one is not sufficient to support any conclusions about the technology.
The two DLP and five LCD machines were portable-class machines. Six of the seven units (both DLPs and all but one of the LCDs) were XGA resolution. The fifth LCD unit was 16:9 format of unspecified resolution. The five LCD projectors consisted of three with 0.9" panels and two with 0.7" panels. The DLP units represented one each of 0.9" and 0.7" chips. Both DLP projectors were rated at 2000 ANSI lumens. The five LCDs had brightness ratings of 800, 1000, 1100, 2000, and 2000 ANSI lumens.
The eight units in the test were placed in fairly close proximity, from a minimum of 4 to 5 inches, to as much as a foot or more apart. They were placed on three shelves one above another, with several units on each shelf. They were arranged in a manner to prevent the hot exhaust of one unit feeding the intake vent of another. At the end of each shelf a fan was installed to blow air across all units on that shelf. The objective of these fans was to distribute cool air from the air conditioning vents as evenly as possible over all units.
The room was cooled by a central air conditioning unit operated by a wall-mounted thermostat located about 10 to 12 feet from the projectors. Average ambient temperature in the room during the test was 25 degrees C, or 77 degrees F. The actual temperature variance range around the average any given point in time was about ten degrees F, from just under 75 degrees to the mid-80's. Temperatures rose and fell in this range with the cycling of the air conditioning system.
The projectors were run round the clock seven days a week, with downtime for the changing of lamps and filter cleaning/replacement as necessary. They were all fed the same computer data signal with rotating graphic images to prevent burn-in. Technical performance measurements were taken at days 0, 1, 2, and 4; weeks 1, 2, and 4; and months 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Results as reported by Texas Instruments
At the end of about 4700 hours of operation, TI summarized the results as follows:
1. Full On/Off, and ANSI contrast degraded over time on all five LCD units, but remained relatively constant on the two DLPs.
2. The optical degradation seen in the LCDs washed the picture out and raised the dark levels.
3. Color chromaticity remained stable on the DLPs, but significant changes were seen in the LCDs. There was a visible yellowing of the image on all the units, and some later developed a "blue blemish" as well.
4. The pattern of degradation was the same on all five LCD products tested. The degradation occurred first in the blue channel. TI's theory is that the organic compounds in the polarizer and LCD panel were breaking down under exposure to high frequency blue and UV light. Eventually there are signs of breakdown in the red and green channels as well.
5. The first of the LCD projectors to fail was judged by TI personnel to have reached an unacceptable condition in 1368 hours of operation. Subsequent failure of the other four units occurred at 2160, 2352, 3456, and 3456 hours.
Based on these test results, TI suggests that a fundamental flaw exists in LCD technology that causes the picture quality it delivers to deteriorate well before the end of life of the projector itself might be expected. Because DLP technology is allegedly immune to degradation, it is purported to offer a lower cost-of-ownership since DLP projectors do not need to be replaced as often as LCD-based products.
Analysis and Comment
While the test conducted by TI clearly highlights a failure mode in LCD panels and polarizers, the public must take care not to jump to the conclusion that the failure rates produced in the lab are in any way indicative of expected failure rates in the field. To the contrary, the statistical results in this test do not match up well with general marketplace experience.
To illustrate, let's assume a typical three-hour per day usage on a portable projector. If it fails in just 1368 hours as one of the units did in this test, that translates to a usable lifespan of about 15 months. Taking it one step further, TI's test results indicate that three of the five units (60% of the test population) failed in 2352 hours or less. If we were to use this data to predict the lifespan of LCD projectors in general, we would conclude that with a typical 3-hour per day usage, 60% of all LCD projectors sold would degrade into a condition unacceptable to the user in just a bit over two years.
This extrapolation is not credible. LCD is by far the most popular projector technology in the marketplace, outselling DLP worldwide by a factor of about three-to-one in the last 18 months. Major brand manufacturers including Epson, Panasonic, Sharp, and Sony have projector product lines either exclusively based upon LCD technology or heavily oriented toward it. These companies have outstanding reputations for quality and are not known for marketing products that routinely degrade to failure within a year or two.
Furthermore, the major LCD manufacturers do not have truckloads of bad units coming back from users and dealers. If they did, they would quickly discontinue those LCD product lines since the cost of warranty repair claims would be unbearable. Dealers would stop carrying them to avoid customer complaints, the cost of handling returned items, and the damage to their own reputations for having recommended faulty merchandise. None of this is happening. So there is no evidence that the failure rates documented in the test correspond in any realistic way to typical LCD performance in the field.
So what happened in the test to skew the results?
There is no doubt that a common failure mode appeared in all five LCD products in the test. We are confident that the measurements taken by Munsell Color Lab are reliable. We are also confident in TI's representation that image quality on the LCD units in question degraded significantly in unusually short periods of time. The question is what could have caused this to occur? We believe some factor or combination of factors not present under typical usage was acting upon the units in the lab test, and that these factors accelerated failure rates to an alarming degree. We need to examine what those influences might have been. Possibilities include the following:
1. 24x7 operation. Clearly an obvious difference between the test environment and typical usage was 24x7 operation. The vast majority of LCD projectors sold are not deployed in 24x7 duty cycles. Constant round the clock operation is a high stress factor that contributes to a breakdown of compounds in the polarizers and panels if they are not properly cooled. Because of this projector manufacturers who build products intended for 24x7 operation typically use larger LCD panels, include comprehensive UV protection, and build them into larger form factors with substantial cooling systems that move large volumes of air. Units with this type of design were not included in the test.
2. Exclusive use of portables. When it comes to making any generalizations about LCD technology's reliability, the test is inconclusive since it used portable units exclusively. Portable projectors by their nature are restricted in their ability to keep panels cool. They simply cannot move volumes of air without making a lot of noise which nobody wants. Thus internal operating temperatures in portables tend to be higher than those in larger LCD projectors. As designed they are not really intended to be deployed in round the clock operation. Yet the test was conducted using portables exclusively under 24x7 operation.
3. Higher than normal ambient temperatures. With heat management already known to be an issue in portable projectors, we believe the test would have been more indicative of real world results had ambient temperatures been maintained at 72 degrees rather than 77 degrees with periodic swings into the mid-80s. The ambient temperature has a direct impact on the efficiency of a projector's cooling system. The hotter the panels and polarizers are, the more susceptible they will be to damage from high intensity light. By selecting products that already have limited cooling capacity, running them 24x7, and then adding a warmer than normal environment into the equation, it is possible that this combination of factors could account for rapid degradation not typically experienced in normal usage.
4. Interactive radiant heat. All projectors, and especially portables, rely upon radiant heat being dissipated through the casework as an integral part of their cooling mechanism. Most user manuals recommend minimum clearances to allow for this. They also frequently state that under no circumstance should a projector be operated in close proximity to another heat source.
Certainly a projector is a heat source. As the units in the lab were set up, with the units placed as close as 4 to 5 inches apart, it is possible that their ability to dissipate radiant heat was inhibited. If so, this would have been another contributing factor to higher than normal internal operating temperatures. The external fans used by the lab should have mitigated this. But given the test results we cannot help but suspect that units positioned that closely together may have had a mutual warming effect upon one another.
Conclusion
Manufacturers recognize that the organic compounds in LCD panels and polarizers are susceptible to high heat and light energy stress, and will eventually break down if deployed in high stress environments—in particular 24x7 operation with higher than normal ambient temperatures. Compact portable LCD projectors are in general not recommended for 24x7 duty cycles because of this.
On the other hand, DLP technology does not use organic compounds. Thus the elements which can be expected to degrade over time under high stress in an LCD projector do not exist in a DLP projector. Therefore when these two technologies are placed side-by-side in an unusually high stress environment as they were in this test, the DLP-based products should be more resistant to image shift over time. TI's test demonstrated this in no uncertain terms.
We agree with TI's assessment that high intensity blue and UV light in the blue channel contributes to accelerated breakdown of the organic compounds in that channel. However degradation due to high intensity light is not normally expected to occur at the rates documented in the test unless the components are subjected simultaneously to abnormally high heat stress. Therefore we suspect that 24x7 operation, higher than normal ambient temperatures, and the close proximity of the test units to one another may have combined to create abnormal conditions that led to a more rapid and severe degradation of the components than users would typically experience.
Thus the generalized inference that many observers have drawn from the test data, which is that LCD technology itself may be expected to routinely break down under normal usage before the expected lifespan of the projector, is difficult to sustain based upon the limited sample size and the abnormal conditions we believe may have existed in the lab.
The test at Munsell Color Science Lab clearly draws attention to the fact that LCD technology has a failure mode that does not exist with DLP, and that this failure mode becomes readily apparent in an unusually high stress environment. What the test does not tell us is how much of a problem this really is in real life. In addition to the test results there is ancedotal evidence of LCDs eventually breaking down in extended use applications. When this occurs the problem is usually fixed by replacing the LCD panel and polarizer in the blue channel. But for the most part typical users of LCD projectors do not seem to experience either the severity of degradation or the rapidity with which it occurred in this particular lab test.
As you can see from the paste from - EXTERNAL LINK - its test is quite old. LCD Projectors like LCD TV's have advanced. But still, DLP Projectors last longer and look better.
ToolTimeDVDTOWN= TFT Projector, DIY!
Remember all those large, bulky projector what you used to pass a slide through and get the image on your wall? They are quite cheap....and they have very strong lamps in them. So...with about $300 + the price of a 15'' monitor you can have your own LCD XGA Projector (XGA as in High Definition). There was a guide sold at e-bay some time ago..but some tech geeks from - EXTERNAL LINK - were kind enough to create their own and post the details:- EXTERNAL LINK -
Suitable Monitor Models: - EXTERNAL LINK -
Have Fun.
Friday, May 27, 2005
Member since:
January 2004
January 2004
Thanks very much for messing up my simple thread with your bloated message. Couldn't you have posted that outdated (AND inaccurate) Projector Central URL and not clogged up my my thread? Or at least started a thread of your own?
Friday, May 27, 2005
Member since:
March 2002
March 2002
I hope you guys are friends.
John
John
Friday, May 27, 2005
Member since:
May 2004
May 2004
well, i could paste the url's but again...like in the plasma/lcd section, i want every user to have a very basic idea of what we are talking about, learn some of the hardware technology so he/she can understand better. Avoiding Best-buy guys while trying to rip them off. Inacurate? Its clear that the post actually says: Medium waged cinephil, hit an lcd, serius home theater enthusiast, go for a DLP.
Btw,what sound system do you have around that screen?
Btw,what sound system do you have around that screen?
Friday, May 27, 2005
Member since:
December 2003
December 2003
To be fair kilgore... it's not "your" thread. It's "A" thread you created at DVD Town. Last time I checked, the only rules were that you needed to be respectful to the other members and staff, and keep both your language and content clean. Honestly it shouldn't matter one way or another if someone creates a long post, or there are just a lot of small posts in a thread... you'd still have to scroll down the page. I actually appreciate people like S Coaster that take the time to spell things out for people like myself that don't know everything about a given topic.
In any case... no offense.
- Josh ;)
In any case... no offense.
- Josh ;)
Wednesday, December 14, 2005
Member since:
November 2005
November 2005
Back on track...I have a HD LCD Panasonic AE900u projector and it is AWESOME! Best bang for the buck! I am casting a 92inch diag screen in a dedicated room so if you don't have kids requiring a always on tv, projectors are the only way to go.
92inch screen for 3k...got to have it!
Steve.
92inch screen for 3k...got to have it!
Steve.
Thursday, December 15, 2005
Member since:
July 2005
July 2005
congrats on the projector. I have been shopping for one for quite some time saving the bucks till I can do it. Definately have to wait till after christmas. Been considering the ae900u myself. Can you tell us anything about it's actual performance? also been considering sanyo z4, the latest sony, and the latest sharp. Sharp is the only dlp in that list but I got a chance to see it in person and was blown away by it's clarity and sharpness. its less than a thousand more. dont' know if its worth it though. I get confused with all this dlp vs lcd crap.
MUST HAVE 90"+ SCREEN!
Enjoy. ;)
MUST HAVE 90"+ SCREEN!
Enjoy. ;)
Thursday, December 15, 2005
Member since:
November 2005
November 2005
Indian, got an email addy that I can send you some pics of the HTX room?
Steve.
Steve.
Friday, December 16, 2005
Member since:
July 2005
July 2005
