mra,

As you can see from the following article, Bush supporters do not look at the facts but would rather vote on ideology.

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James,

I agree with you as well. I can’t believe the people in this country not seeing the lack of intelligence in George W. However, I believe many people are easy to follow the bias opinion of the news media and stay clear of actually finding their own facts. After all, the media wouldn’t lie to us . . . yeah, right. And let’s not forget all the ridiculous polls and studies taken to sway the undecided voter because thinking for yourself seems to be an epidemic in this country. The constant polls that are taken are what drive me crazy. I have never been asked, nor do I have any friends of family members that have ever been asked to take a poll over presidential candidates. Where the hell do these damn polls come from? Who are these poll people? Personally, I think polls should be ban from the media during election periods so people will get off their lazy ass and get the facts for themselves.

Then there are the insignificant studies that are still in place to sway the lazy undecided voter. And here again I have never been asked or know anyone who has ever been asked to participate in any election study. The one study that kills me is the one where people are more likely to vote for a President that they feel they can sit and have a beer with. That is my last concern of any President, and for that matter, it is of no concern to me at all. I really don’t care about a Presidents “charm”, I care about his level of intelligence and whether I believe he can handle the common issues of our country. As far as I’m concerned, the President is a servant to the people of this country. He’s not a King, a Dictator, or the Pope, he’s an elected official that is here to “serve” our needs and not his own. The President I want in office is the one who will vigorously tackle the issues in our country and I would certainly hope he’s not sitting around having a beer just because he’s charming.

You brought up some very strong environmental issues (which I totally agree with you on) that good-old George has turned his back on. Combine that with the issues I brought up on my pervious post and it is still good enough reason to not put the idiot back in office. Not to mention, this is the sneakiest, most underhanded administration I’ve seen since the Nixon era. It’s amazing how the truth is right in front of people, staunch Republicans to be specific, yet they refuse to see it, all because it’s far more important to have a bottle of Budweiser with the Pres.


Tim (More than happy to vent my frustrations with you James) ;)

Tim,

On the other hand, you can imagine yourself smoking a joint with Clinton, right? :D

Eddie

Eddie,

ROFL :D:D

Tim :D

This is precisely why I don't like political debate. More and more "opinions" are mixed in with fact or "perception", and retched forth as one lumped fact. Then someone adds an emotional comment about one party or the other, and suddenly a "discussion" turns to argueing, then turns to fighting, and if both sides were toe to toe, it would come to blows.

Opinions are fine. Freedom of speech is wonderful, and is one of the greatest ideas/concepts ever devised. But to hide behind that right, in what's now become cliche, and forego responsibility for your words or actions all in the name of "free speech" IS reprehensible in my opinion.

I suppose, I'm just a peacemaker at heart. I don't like living in a nation devided on such a short lived thing as who's in the the Oval Office. 4 more years of either "Bush" or "Kerry" is not going to destroy our country, or bring about a 3rd world war, no matter what extremists on either side would have you believe! Kerry, is a very intelligent person, and could potentially do some great things for this country. Bush on the other hand has made some bad decisions, but I think at heart is a good person trying to do the best he can for our country. President Bush has potential to learn from his past mistakes, and do even better if he wins the election. It's not to say that Kerry wouldn't/won't make mistakes (even big ones) should he be elected. My point is, they're both highly educated, and can both do good for our country. In my opinion, we should not be so angry and devided as a nation over this issue. The world is not going to turn on a dime. And if you subscribe to that theory, I think you may want to read the story of "chicken little". I'm not going to go off on my "positive thinking" optimism speech here, but a little optimism right about now could do our country a lot of good.

- Josh

posters5 (staff)

>>>"Ah--you're not just stubbornly stupid but also a dick! "<<<

Tim Raynor (staff)

>>>"Agreed"<<<

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Thanks. I'll take that as a compliment coming from you guys. But at least all your crap was dumped on this topic where it was expected, instead of slung all over the place, randomly, without warning.:x

mra,

Good point. I couldn't remember what your age was, so I "ass-umed" that Tim remembered correctly. Sorry 'bout that.


Eddie,

I'm not sure if that last paragraph was directed at me, but I hope not. I'll admit, you do tend to keep an unbiased approach to burning one president or another on their bad decisions. But if you look back at the posts that you all made directly in response to mra's, I just thought that was a bit overboard. I tend to side with the underdog of any given situation, because I like to see equal ground in an arguement. I don't like to join the bandwagon to beat someone down. If I happen to agree with "the bandwagon", then I'll usually tactfully, and respectfully choose my wording in explaining why I agree with what's being said. I didn't see that happening in response to what mra was saying.

- Josh

Observation:
We have had different combos of Dems - Reps as president and congress.
The only one which slowed the deficit was Rep congress and Dem president.
The Reps decided that opposing all of Clinton's spending was good. But they think all of Bush's spending is OK. Dems in congress is always a disaster. So the only thing a Kerry presidency would be good, is that if congress stays Rep, congress might show up and control spending once again, not from principal, but spite.

Nach,

You are apolgising?...:o
No need to but-
OK, accepted?!:D

I would like to see a law passed that all elections must be won by at least 50%.
There would be two or three colums. You would put your second and third choice in the following colums. MANY people would put in votes for their first-choice, third party candidates without worrying that they would be wasting their votes.

g'night!

Josh: I was using the second-person "you" and wasn't implying that you would be voting for Bush because you specifically are racist (I know that you're not).

mra: Trent Lott said that, had Strom Thurmond been elected president, then we wouldn't have had so many of the problems that we have today. Strom Thurmond ran on a platform that was explicitly racist. All Lott got was a slap on the wrist. He really should've been expelled from Congress.