THE PASSIONS RE-CUT

Remember discussing h0w will mel make more money from a special 2 disc edition DVD of the Passions? Well....its seems its not enough...he is G0ing f0r a 2nd Theatrical Release...S0mething like "director's cut" in theaters... Its Called THE PASSI0N RE-CUT and its premiering On March 11th. The new Poster can be seen in - EXTERNAL LINK - is f0ll0wed by the tag line "a new version f0r new viewers to be inspired". Theres als0 a trailer.
Well...he is g0nna d0 it again...

I find it sort of interesting that this started out as yet another interesting "discussion", only to turn to a fist fight over certain people's opinions. A lot of you have made some very well thought out and relevant comments so far. The rest of you have used this thread as a personal attack free-for-all. Whether you agree with one person or not, or just plain think they're daft for the comments they've made, it shouldn't become the focus of the thread.

While I may not be the member with the most longevity here, I think I've talked with Eddie enough, and read enough of his reviews to know that while he (like most of us here) is oppinionated about one thing or another, Eddie gives it to you strait, or as he see's it. You can't fault the guy for that. Most of the "gripes" against Eddie, that I've seen so far, have been just as "hypocritical" as you (that are) are blaming him for being... Which, only serves to prove Sean's point earlier on in this thread. The issue of publicly disrespecting fellow emplyees stands. At this stage in our anal "politically correct" society, this shouldn't even be a question. It's completely unprofessional.

To the point. Whether we THINK that Gibson changed this or that, for what ever reason, is irrelevant. We may never know the true reason he did. I can speculate all day long, that I think he did it for more sales. And, quite honestlly, (being a person that's "trying" not to watch so many 'R' movies, with the eventual goal of not watching them altogether) I applaud Mr. Gibson for releasing a version of his film for people like myself to watch. While I might be a minority (and I use the term loosely) in that sense, it's still nice to know that I'm not forgotten about. While there is a point to the argument of "if you can't watch a movie 'how it was intended' to be watched, then you shouldn't watch it at all", I think it's short sighted to think that I can't get the same messages, or thoughts brought across by the director, by taking out the gratuitous sex, gore, or other content. But, that's another discussion altogether.

We're all given to becoming heated over one thing or another, but the fact that personal attacks are still being displayed on the message boards, is frustrating, and completely childish. If you can't bring your point across without demeaning, or belittling someone else, you're showing just how small your intellect is.

- Josh

Do you like Michael Moore's work or not?

Score ten points for Ranjan for somehow connecting The Passion and Wal Mart. hahaha

Good work my friend. :)

Luc

Sorry for writing that you gave it a 6. The point - there are lot of things around us that are based on false pretence and in the corporation terms false marketing. We still buy products and shop in the big stores. Do you shop at Walmart? If yes, then my question - why it is so difficult to rate this movie. I believe both Walmart and POTC aims at making money and wide consumer base. I think Walmart kills local businesses and hence in the same way POTC make us feel as if we are idiots. If the movies sucks it sucks. No getting away from it.
--Ranjan

hy·poc·ri·sy

1: An expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction.
2: Insincerity by virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not really have or understand.

Eddie,
With all due respect to your past and present comments:), I would like to remind you that you also changed your mind when you rated POTC. During the theatrical release you gave it a 9/10 (if I remember it correctly). Later on you gave it a 6. Now personally I don't care why you changed your mind:). Infact I like people who are honest:). You were no hypocrite when you changed your mind. The point I am making here is people in fact do have right to change their minds. If Gibson is planning to release a strip down flavor of grotesque violence, so be it. It is his prerogative!! Is it for money. Of course heck yaa. Now we will have 4 flavors of DVDs. I don't think removing violence from the movie questions his integrity. We have seen so many director cuts released one by one in the past. I believe a same movie can be made in different ways. This goes for very profession - software developement, photography, writing and of course sports. The point is - we should be all nice in forums and stop blaming Christians, Republicans blah blah. In the end we all know how to be nice to everyone. Don't we?
--Ranjan
PS: Is POTC a good movie?:)

Oh, for the love of Pete! A guy changes his mind and he's a hypocrite?!?

Does that make it hypocritical that John Kerry voted for the Iraqi War, but voted against the $85 million of fluff that diddn't even provide armor for the soldiers fighting said war and their military vehicles? Please!

In the secular world, if someone changes his mind, that's okay. But if someone of religious persuasion makes a similar change, he's automatically a hypocrite. Unless it's politics, and then he's a "flip-flopper." Guess "thonger" didn't go over too well.

If you want to talk integrity, then from Mel's (and my) standpoint, the most integrous decision is to spread this specific message to as many people as possible. If that means artistically changing a reported 5-6 minutes of the film (i.e., George Lucas) to make it palatable to a new, larger audience, then so be it. As I recall, the big answer to the whole George Lucas fiasco was, "if you don't like it, then don't buy it." Such an answer indicates it's not such a big deal after all. Funny that feathers ruffle over The Passion.

Kerry was right to conscienciously stand against the ludicrously ill-advised funding and strategy for the Iraqi War, just as Mel is right, from his belief-mandated standpoint, in exposing as many people as possible to this story.

The real newsflash here is that we are all hypocritical. We all change our minds. We all make bad decisions. That's why we despise it in other people; it reminds us of our own shortcomings.

I'm stepping down from my soapbox now.

Sean (actually, i think the soapbox caved under the weight!...) :)

I think it is Mel Gibson once again exploiting religion to make more money. Just watch Payback and ask how can this guy be allowed to make a movie about Jesus.

Chin,

Without getting into the why's and how comes, the short of it is, it has to do with my beliefs. I'll leave it at that. ;)

- Josh