Re: Did Blu-ray score a goal in own net with BD+?

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Published Oct 3, 2007 Reports of people having troubles with the new BD+ copy protection are starting to surface.

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John J. Puccio

Oct 4, 2007 - CDT 4:01 PM

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danbala,

Have I missed the point again? Are you suggesting that Fox knew in advance their BD+ discs would not work with some BD players, but they went ahead and released them anyway, with no cautions or warnings?

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Oct 4, 2007 - CDT 4:45 PM

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John,

I think I might be at least partially responsible for that. It was a theory I threw out earlier in the thread. Every release goes through quality check. It's unbelievable to me that Fox didn't check this big release. Which led me to the two theories I mentioned above.

Someone else besides Fox dropped the ball here. Whether it was BDA or Samsung or LG or whatever, it takes two to tango.

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Oct 4, 2007 - CDT 9:10 PM

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very insteresting comments.

posters5

Oct 4, 2007 - CDT 10:22 PM

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jason,

i think you completely missed the boat about henning's comments regarding people being savvy enough to download firmware updates via a player's internet connection or on a computer for burning.

you don't have to buy universal's online merchandise to be able to watch the hd dvd that you purchased. on the other hand, you might need a firmware update to watch a disc in blu-ray's case. the problem at hand is playing a disc, not buying other things.

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Oct 4, 2007 - CDT 11:45 PM

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SHOCKER! Bill Hunt at TheDigitalBits.com said something bad about Blu-ray:

"Toshiba, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 owners can update their firmware right from the player with a broadband connection (a feature HD-DVD got right - something the Blu-ray manufacturers should adopt)."

JJ79

Oct 5, 2007 - CDT 7:46 AM

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Eddie,

I AGREE that a firmware upgrade shouldn't be needed to play the movie. Completely, utterly, without a doubt. It should work the first minute the disc is put into the player. (I have other issues with the FF2 disc, like the idea of a main menu...I got spoiled with Warner's Smallville S6 starting the first episode immediately.)

You're absolutely right: buying merchandise on Universal discs is not required to watch the movie. However, if people are dumb enough not to be able to do firmware updates, are they going to be smart enough to buy stuff? That's my only point. The interactivity is a feature HD DVD is touting to high heaven, like it's the be all and end all of features. It's not for 99% of the viewing audience.

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Oct 5, 2007 - CDT 8:17 AM

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So much for there beyond higher definition, hdna disks and players... It's just another cluster on everyone on the blu side trying to keep up with Toshiba's innovative platform for TRUE-HD, but that's what you get when you rush into something without being prepared with the proper support... Maybe next year, or the year after will sony's blu team be ready to play with the big boys... I just wonder how long will the studios be blinded by the ONSLAUGHT of sony's only true innovation, advertising, THX..:-}

kucoloco

Oct 5, 2007 - CDT 9:20 AM

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are you guys serious ???? i know plenty of people who would go online with their HD player just cause...and look at extras, but would have no idea how to burn firmware to a disk.

some people just think of the Computer as an "alien". the minute you say Computer. they think "Complicated" ...and asume the worst before even attempting anything on it. even with step by step instructions. believe me I do IT support.

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Oct 5, 2007 - CDT 10:16 AM

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Kucoloco, I do IT support also. It amazes me how many people think turning off the monitor actually turns off the computer :p

posters5

Oct 5, 2007 - CDT 12:35 PM

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it's getting to the point where hd dvd and blu-ray players are approximating computers. remember when some techies gutted the hd-a1 and hd-xa1? they found RAM and actual computer chips inside those machines.