Wednesday, October 17, 2007
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September 2007
just want to get your opinion between the two movies, which do you like better? and why
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
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March 2002
it depends on the viewer. the two movies are actually very different. for example:
1) the theatrical has a blue-steel industrial look. the director's has warm browns and oranges.
2) the director's has a downbeat, ambiguous ending, but the theatrical is more violent because mel gibson is crazy (he came up with the "this little piggy scene" when paramount and warner ordered re-shoots).
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews29/payback_directors_cut.htm
[Post edited by posters5 on Oct 17, 2007]
1) the theatrical has a blue-steel industrial look. the director's has warm browns and oranges.
2) the director's has a downbeat, ambiguous ending, but the theatrical is more violent because mel gibson is crazy (he came up with the "this little piggy scene" when paramount and warner ordered re-shoots).
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews29/payback_directors_cut.htm
[Post edited by posters5 on Oct 17, 2007]
Thursday, October 18, 2007
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June 2006
June 2006
PAYBACK - Yeah, the enjoyment of each cut is kind of a paradox. For more info about each, view this Wikipedia entry for the film.
Overall I like the theatrical version better [with the voice over narration], I guess because it appeals to the successful revenge factor, and naturally we enjoy seeing some great "payback" [pun intended] of all involved (with the added Kris Kristofferson character) - similar to Jonathan Mostow's BREAKDOWN, with Kurt Russell's awesome and justifiable payback (as he and his wife were innocent victims).
However, the director's cut is actually more honest to Mel's screen character, ending the film with a "downer" fadeout that obviously implies that his character dies (from the gunshot). "Honest" by showing Mel for what he is and stood for - a man who was involved in a violent criminal enterprise, and who (I assume) dies trying to retrieve money stolen from his own earlier instigated theft (with Gregg Henry's character), being funds that he originally stole from other criminals [Chinese Mafia], and for which Mel kills several people over throughout the film. His behavior also almost causes the death of Maria Bello's character as well, but she ends up being the lone survivor (from the crime syndicate world of Mel's character).
Each version "works", so the viewer will have to choose the version preferred, and whether Mel's character is "admirable" (or not). Both have different musical scores, which are excellent. I'd liked to have seen more of Lucy Liu's character [she was so cool here].
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Oct 18, 2007]
Overall I like the theatrical version better [with the voice over narration], I guess because it appeals to the successful revenge factor, and naturally we enjoy seeing some great "payback" [pun intended] of all involved (with the added Kris Kristofferson character) - similar to Jonathan Mostow's BREAKDOWN, with Kurt Russell's awesome and justifiable payback (as he and his wife were innocent victims).
However, the director's cut is actually more honest to Mel's screen character, ending the film with a "downer" fadeout that obviously implies that his character dies (from the gunshot). "Honest" by showing Mel for what he is and stood for - a man who was involved in a violent criminal enterprise, and who (I assume) dies trying to retrieve money stolen from his own earlier instigated theft (with Gregg Henry's character), being funds that he originally stole from other criminals [Chinese Mafia], and for which Mel kills several people over throughout the film. His behavior also almost causes the death of Maria Bello's character as well, but she ends up being the lone survivor (from the crime syndicate world of Mel's character).
Each version "works", so the viewer will have to choose the version preferred, and whether Mel's character is "admirable" (or not). Both have different musical scores, which are excellent. I'd liked to have seen more of Lucy Liu's character [she was so cool here].
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Oct 18, 2007]
Thursday, October 18, 2007
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October 2004
October 2004
Pass on both versions of this lukewarm remake, and watch the original "Point Blank" instead.
Thursday, October 18, 2007
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September 2007
September 2007
point blank is fine. maybe alittel to old for my collection