Threads on the right side...

Ok I mentioned this in a couple of threads. Is anyone else NOT seeing the threads listed on the right side of the page? bring them back!

EDIT: Ok I found the list of threads but they are way on the bottom of the right side now. It's as if they are no longer aligned at the top.

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Oct 23, 2007]

What browser you using?

I'm using IE 6 at work and I believe the same at home. I can't upgrade the one at work though....they got us LOCKED DOWN over here.

I see the issue in IE6 and Opera has an issue with the left side. All other browsers look fine. I assume Henning and crew are using tabless layouts, which tend to make this issues happen. Tabless layouts are all the new hype for web design, and in my experience they're a freaking nightmare of issues (just because it's new does not make it better. When I design I use what works and not what's new so I can look like a big showoff). The argument is they are supposed to render faster, however, if you have high-speed connection you really won't notice a difference. Nevertheless, hype is all it really is. You can use CSS to create a class for tables and use a property for that class called "table-layout" which will cause the tables to render faster.

I agree Tim. New and "improved" software is great when it works but sometimes simple is the best policy, especially when it comes to websites. Keep it simple guys!

I will try this out IE 6 as soon as possible and try to correct the problem.

However, I would recomend upgrading your browser to at least IE 7. Here is what Microsoft themselves writes:

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For me, the most compelling reason to upgrade is the improved security. The Internet of today is not the Internet of five years ago. There are dangers that simply didn't exist back in 2001, when Internet Explorer 6 was released to the world. Internet Explorer 7 makes surfing the web fundamentally safer by offering greater protection against viruses, spyware, and other online risks.

Henning I can upgrade it at home but at work I'm outta luck. We're stuck with IE 6 for a while and most of the time I'm on this site is at work. It's no biggie but if you can fix it great. There may be other casual surfers that may not post but experience the issue as well.

Don't feel bad Falcon, I do a lot of design work for huge corporations -- many of them popular high-tech companys -- and they are all still using IE6. Go figure?

Ya but as a site designer you should make sure the site is visible on all platforms or as many as possible. People shouldn't have to update their browsers to view your site. What about all those people still using dialup? There are people that have no idea how to even update their browsers.

Falcon,

I agree but my answer would also be, "Why must we be surrounded by freakin' idiots?!?!?"



[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Oct 23, 2007]

It's a reality we have to deal with. Some people are just not interested in the technical aspect of how the internet works. They just wanna go online, surf the sites they are interested in and thats it. They could care less about all the other stuff. That's why you always have to make it backwards compatible.

This is true Falcon, and it is true us designers have to build around the lowest common denominator.

However, it would be nice to burn all those idiots . . . badly (with liquid hot mag-ma).

Great pictures Tim. I had forgot how funny those movies are.

We do our best to make the site as compatible as possible but with IE6 it is not always an easy task. However, I'm sure we will get it all working soon.

Henning,

I feel your pain. I too have to deal with it daily and it's nothing but a big headache of band-aided HTML. Like you, I wish everyone would just update their browsers frequently. It would solve a lot of the issues, but I'm sure you realize what a pain it is to convince everyone of that. LOL.

Best of luck.

Tim

Dr Evil says that Tim should be paid "one milllllllion dollars" to develop the ultimate compatible browser. Oh wait, that should be ONE HUNDRED MILLION dollars!

-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)

A really good friend of mine once had a web site where you could watch live dj's spinning music from their homes, studios, bars, clubs, etc. Sometimes when he would update his site you wouldn't see the changes even though we had IE configured to check the sites for new changes. So we would actually have to clear our cache, then go to the site and THEN we would see the changes. I said to him...Do you actually expect people to do this?

Things have changed a lot on the web since then (7 years ago) but I still believe people should be able to view your site without having to do updates or download a different browser to be able to see it properly.

This site has been pretty good thus far in that regard and I realize there are still changes going on the back end so no worries. Keep up the good work.

I have no problem viewing the right side tabs on IE7 which is on all of my computers. I do have a problem with the "Log On" at the top of the page on my main desktop, but not on my laptop and my wife's computer. It doesn't work and I have to use the link at the bottom of the page. Can anybody tell me why?

Do you, perhaps, have the browser set to automatically delete certain cookies when exiting? Check to be sure you are allowing cookies for DVDTOWN in the browser.

John

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A really good friend of mine once had a web site where you could watch live dj's spinning music from their homes, studios, bars, clubs, etc. Sometimes when he would update his site you wouldn't see the changes even though we had IE configured to check the sites for new changes. So we would actually have to clear our cache, then go to the site and THEN we would see the changes. I said to him...Do you actually expect people to do this?

Unfortunately, browsers always cache pages and certain items in order to make pages you hit frequently come up faster. When making a change to a site, especially with graphics, the cache needs to be cleared in order to see the changes. There is a simple keyboard shortcut you can do to solve this issue. Simply hold down the "Ctrl & F5" keys together on your keyboard. This will refresh the server thus clearing anything cached.

For those who don't know, F5 key always refreshes your browser on the client side (your local machine). When used in conjuction with the Ctrl key it refreshes the entire session on the server side. Keep in mind, it doesn't refresh the entire site, just the page that you're on. So, you will need to do the keyboard shortcut trick for every page a change was made.

[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Oct 24, 2007]

IE? What's IE? <kidding>

Anyway, everything looks fine using Firefox.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Oct 24, 2007]