Re: 90,000 HD DVD players sold in one weekend

Got my $98 A2 hooked up last night. 15 minutes later after downloading the update from the internet, I was in business. Picture is fantastic. DTS cranked.

Any config options I should consider?? I left it at the default settings.

Yes, make sure you don't set your toaster settings too high. If you go past medium it could burn your toast. Plus, it won't fit bagels. Also, make sure you use the recommended filters for brewing coffee.

Tim

[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Nov 12, 2007]

Tim you're halirious.

I have the HD A2 also and I left it with the default settings also.

BubbleBathGirl, you keep shouting about stats. You even quote site's with stats, like Amazon.com. Why is it that you don't mention these CONSTANT 2 for 1 sales on Amazon.com and other sites, as, once again Sony and Disney are having another "buy one get one free" sale. These blu-ray 2 for 1 sales are constantly going on, so, what does that mean for ACTUAL sales, if you get one free, then that is NOT an actual sale. But yet, they are included in BLU-RAY SALES FIQURES. Now, we all know that this type of sale is when MOST people BUY disc's. Are you going to try to convince us that NO ONE cares about these sale's and they only buy during off sale days. Anyone knows that that is when they would buy, I know I would, SO, I am sure that this is when MOST blu-rays are purchased !!! Cut out all of those FREE give away's and what happens to actual sales numbers then? Unfortunately for me, HD-DVD's don't see that type of sale, at least, I haven't seen one yet. It is Sony's way of being able to INFLATE the true sales numbers of the Blu-ray disc's. Thousands, and I do mean thousands of the blu-ray disc sales are ACTUALLY GIVE AWAYS ! ! ! I would love to see the TRUE comparison's to actual sales in dollar amounts instead of made up numbers that incude those disc's that are given away . Tell me, do you know of such stats ? ? ?

EMan,

Please don't get us started again. Let us all agree that statistics can be used by anybody on either side of the format battle to prove anything.

Until last week the AVS used to have an entire forum devoted to Neilsen ratings. Tempers raged so hot over there that after shutting down all the HD forums for a few days, they came back without the ratings forum. That was where too many people actually started threatening each other over how to interpret the sales numbers.

This is not to suggest that DVDTOWN forbids readers from posting statistics. If you have new numbers, trot them out. Just be sure they aren't the same numbers we've all seen a hundred times before, the numbers that are already in dispute, the numbers of questionable origin, the numbers used only to incite riot.

John

Uhhhhhhh, John, I have posted no threat to Bubble's anywhere in my post, and I most certainly would not ! ! ! none, nada, zero..........

Wow what a crazy thread. For sure the nuttiest I have ever seen here. I know I have been away for a little while, but has this become the norm? When did this Bubblebrain chick get planted here? She is an ridiculously repetitive and unrelenting as some of the best Hydra's I have seen at AVS or anywhere.

Common themes are the link me link me link me while providing carefully researched links that while they my be for an unbiased source such as Amazon, they do not provide the full picture and when positioned correctly "seem" to support her assertions.

Some things she keeps banging on: 2-1 sales lead. Well it has been averaging a heck of a lot more like 1.5 - 1 in the last couple months despite SP3 giving BR a boost last week. That may still look good until to consider that it was more like 4-1 in Q1. I.E. 61.56% to 38.44% is not 2-1 lol OOPS.

Bubblebutt: "problem for the HD DVD camp is that they're really up against the PS3's sales, and even though only 40% of PS3 owners realize that there is a Blu-ray player built in, that's still about 750,000 people in the US. "

No the problem is for BR that studios such as Warner have come right out and said they do not consider a game console as a HD player and they will be watching stand alone player sales. You think Toshiba is running these sales with Walmart for the heck of it. What do you think happens in Q1/08 when there are 1,000,000+ HD DVD stand alones and only a couple 100k BR's?

And no I will not provide you with the links, go Google yourself silly.

I also find it pretty annoying, repetitive and a clear attempt at avoidance when you constantly reply to anyone who doesn't agree with something accusing them of getting angry. being irrational or hot headed lol.

Anyway, I am still only half way through this stupid thread and I am sure you will provide a ton of additional material. Just thought I would laugh at you now in case I forget later.

Cheers

Actually BluCanada, its you who should get your facts straight.

"3. The disc's themselves are superior to HD's when it comes to durability. Durabis is a scratch resistant protective coating applied to the discs (Durabis or ScratchGaurd). What this means? your software investment is better protected..."

For that statement at least Sony didn't want to pay for the top of the line Durabis, so they use their own versions which is considered much less... well Durable. As usual. Feel free to link yourself silly, I am not going to do it for you.

Cheers

rrosen, make what you will of the statistics ... and how they are produced ... Nielsen ratings have long since been regarded as the benchmark for all sorts of measurements.

Nielsen has posted some remarkable numbers for Blu-ray, and however they were produced it still means that there is that much more media in the hands of Blu-ray owners. What's wrong with a 2 for 1 sale? It's the same high quality product at a discounted price.

When I had commented earlier about the "fire-sale" I had been critical of the units lack of 1080p. If HD DVD was selling 1080p HD DVD players at $99 then I would be more impressed.

And what happens if HD DVD decides to do a 2 for 1 sale? I'm sure they will try that strategy at some point ... and good for them.

This is all part of business ... competition ... this is GOOD as it brings costs lower and forces businesses to be more efficient and smarter.

Dear Bubblebrain:

"Blu-ray is winning, and as long as they can maintain dominance they will continue to charge what they want. HD DVD blinked first, cause they're steadily losing ground. That's also why they had to give away their lowest of end players ... cause no one was buying them. "

Please explain how going form a 4-1 sales deficit to a 2-1 sales deficit and closer to 1.5-1 over the last couple months (IE. Steadily CATCHING UP and eroding the BR lead) = losing ground.

Don't bother replanting the Blu-line crap about stand alone player sales that was debunked 10 seconds after it was tried and as usual please feel free to Google yourself, I am not going to waste time proving what you already know and you know that as well which is why you will ask and then say SEE he won't or can't prove it.

Or would you rather just accuse me of getting mad and emotional rather than address the question which is simply this to avoid confusion and you answering something else.

Please explain how going from 4-1 to 2-1 to 1.5-1 means that you are steadily losing ground. I dare you to try and specificially address that in such as was as to support your above comment. I know you know all these facts so let the misdirection begin.

Cheers,

Richard