Re: 90,000 HD DVD players sold in one weekend
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Isn't Black Friday racist?
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Johnson316, I hope you are kidding. Black simply means a black day, better known as a dark day for consumer Chritstmas shopping. It is considered to be the busiest day of the year for retailers. Hence, a "dark day" for retailers. It is so busy on that day that retailers "brace" themselves for it, wouldn't be the first time that fights broke out between consumers that are grabbing for the same merchandise on the shelves.
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LOL Richard, well since you "dared" me to.
I'm not gonna post the same pie charts that everyone has seen a million times.
Last week had Blu-ray outselling HD DVD 71% to 29% according to the Neilsen ratings. If you think HD DVD is slowly eroding Blu-ray then perhaps you could explain why the Neilsen Videoscan graph shows the exact opposite:
Look everyone! It's a new chart! Yay!!!
Per your PS3 comment, I think the PS3 has plenty to do with the Hi Def "war". I have seen many people on this forum agree with this fact, including everyone's favorite John J. Puccio
[Post edited by bubblebathgirl on Nov 13, 2007]
I'm not gonna post the same pie charts that everyone has seen a million times.
Last week had Blu-ray outselling HD DVD 71% to 29% according to the Neilsen ratings. If you think HD DVD is slowly eroding Blu-ray then perhaps you could explain why the Neilsen Videoscan graph shows the exact opposite:
Look everyone! It's a new chart! Yay!!!
Per your PS3 comment, I think the PS3 has plenty to do with the Hi Def "war". I have seen many people on this forum agree with this fact, including everyone's favorite John J. Puccio
[Post edited by bubblebathgirl on Nov 13, 2007]
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"I think the PS3 has plenty to do with the Hi Def 'war.'" Bubblebathgirl
He's certainly correct. The PS3 has everything to do with the format war. The PS3s account for over 90% of all the Blu-ray players in the country. I can't imagine anyone thinking otherwise.
I'm not sure what point Bubble is making, but I agree with his statement. Without the PS3s, Blu-ray disc sales would be in serious trouble.
John
He's certainly correct. The PS3 has everything to do with the format war. The PS3s account for over 90% of all the Blu-ray players in the country. I can't imagine anyone thinking otherwise.
I'm not sure what point Bubble is making, but I agree with his statement. Without the PS3s, Blu-ray disc sales would be in serious trouble.
John
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John:
rrosen:
This was merely to point out that the PS3 is widely considered a Blu-ray playing platform. That's all
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I'm not sure what point Bubble is making, but I agree with his statement. Without the PS3s, Blu-ray disc sales would be in serious trouble.
rrosen:
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No the problem is for BR that studios such as Warner have come right out and said they do not consider a game console as a HD player and they will be watching stand alone player sales.
This was merely to point out that the PS3 is widely considered a Blu-ray playing platform. That's all
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We interrupt the STUPID COMMENT FROM BUBBLEBOOB & BLUCANADADORK, for some useful information regarding this Thanksgiving Sale:
Sears will be selling the Toshiba HD-A3 for $169.
Best Buy & Circuit City will have their own HD-DVD standalones on sale for under $200.
The lowest priced standalone blu ray on sale on BLACK FRIDAY (from any given store) is $378. That's the Blu Ray sale price folks. Truly pathetic price bloated w/a stink of SONY EGO.
Oh hey Bubbleburst, can I call you Richard? Because you look a lot like a DICK to me. You too Blucanadaballs.
I think Bubblecrap has long BURST HIS... well, need I say it more - that all he can muster to cut & paste, are more pie charts & A PLEAD FOR FANBOY HELP.
[Post edited by xplaytendo on Nov 13, 2007]
Sears will be selling the Toshiba HD-A3 for $169.
Best Buy & Circuit City will have their own HD-DVD standalones on sale for under $200.
The lowest priced standalone blu ray on sale on BLACK FRIDAY (from any given store) is $378. That's the Blu Ray sale price folks. Truly pathetic price bloated w/a stink of SONY EGO.
Oh hey Bubbleburst, can I call you Richard? Because you look a lot like a DICK to me. You too Blucanadaballs.
I think Bubblecrap has long BURST HIS... well, need I say it more - that all he can muster to cut & paste, are more pie charts & A PLEAD FOR FANBOY HELP.
[Post edited by xplaytendo on Nov 13, 2007]
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xplaytendo,
If you will kindly take a look at the new Message Board rules, you'll see that we frown on name-calling (i.e., "the use of abusive names to belittle or humiliate another person in a political campaign, an argument, etc." --Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary). Could you please refrain from using derogatory names when addressing other posters. This is a place for exchanging ideas, not insulting people you disagree with.
John
If you will kindly take a look at the new Message Board rules, you'll see that we frown on name-calling (i.e., "the use of abusive names to belittle or humiliate another person in a political campaign, an argument, etc." --Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary). Could you please refrain from using derogatory names when addressing other posters. This is a place for exchanging ideas, not insulting people you disagree with.
John
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With the low prices of HD DVD players, there is no doubt that media sales will pick up for this format - but they have to get them out quickly because of the "first format in, wins" rule. 100,000 players means nothing during a one day sale in the scheme of things, even for those in America who currently own HDTVs. Toshiba has to keep this kind of penetration going, and the strategy of nearly give-away sales is a good way to develop market momentum. I believe they will, and for this reason I think HD DVD will survive for years, as long as Toshiba is willing to carry the burden alone as it has been doing.
The PS3s low attach rate can be explained by parents buying them for their kids for in-their-room use on their SD TVs. But market penetration for PS3s is a sleeping giant. When families finally decide to buy that HDTV this Christmas or next, I suspect they will be more apt to eventually buy into a format compatible with little Johnny's PS3 so that he can watch Spidey 3 upstairs over and over whenever he wants. The format that makes it first into the home is more likely to influence future purchase decisions. It's a strategy that will take at least a couple years to realize which is why current sales stats and current studio support means nothing.
HD DVDs major mistake IMO was Microsoft not including an HD DVD with the XBox 360. Why buy the HD DVD add-on when little Johnny has a standard TV in his room. I'd like to see the percentage of families that bought HDTVs for their kids rooms, but I suspect it to be small and remain so over the next couple years. There is just little incentive to buy an add-on right now.
Most kid's big ticket items are bought for Christmas, and I suspect that more PS3s will sell this holiday season for $399 than last Christmas when they were going for $1,500 on eBay. It's interesting that Sony decided to include Spidey 3 with each player, and the 5 free mail-aways. This simply educates the parents that this is more than a gaming machine, but a Blu-ray player and reinforces the fact that they've now bought into a format even though they might not even have an HDTV yet. Normally gaming consoles come with a free game
Unfortunately because of Toshiba's player subsidies, it's obvious why other third party manufacturers don't offer stand-alone HD DVD players like they do for Blu-ray. And in the consumer's eyes, it makes it look like a proprietary format - much like Sony BETA, and it is by definition. The Venturer Chinese players due for November 8th? still haven't appeared, and probably wont now that Toshiba has undercut them with the old A2 and discounted A3s.
I'm afraid that we're going to be stuck with two formats for many years IMO, and you better get used to it. I suggest being duel format if you don't want to miss out on anything, else make a top 100 list of all the movies you love and see which format supports it most. I also believe that as the months/years go by, we'll see more studios go neutral rather than exclusive in order to cash in on a growing market regardless of the divide among consumers.
Meanwhile another format war is still proceeding. I noticed when I was renting Shrek 3 on HD DVD today at the video store, all the people in line ahead of me had the "Full Screen" version of the film. I kid you not.
The PS3s low attach rate can be explained by parents buying them for their kids for in-their-room use on their SD TVs. But market penetration for PS3s is a sleeping giant. When families finally decide to buy that HDTV this Christmas or next, I suspect they will be more apt to eventually buy into a format compatible with little Johnny's PS3 so that he can watch Spidey 3 upstairs over and over whenever he wants. The format that makes it first into the home is more likely to influence future purchase decisions. It's a strategy that will take at least a couple years to realize which is why current sales stats and current studio support means nothing.
HD DVDs major mistake IMO was Microsoft not including an HD DVD with the XBox 360. Why buy the HD DVD add-on when little Johnny has a standard TV in his room. I'd like to see the percentage of families that bought HDTVs for their kids rooms, but I suspect it to be small and remain so over the next couple years. There is just little incentive to buy an add-on right now.
Most kid's big ticket items are bought for Christmas, and I suspect that more PS3s will sell this holiday season for $399 than last Christmas when they were going for $1,500 on eBay. It's interesting that Sony decided to include Spidey 3 with each player, and the 5 free mail-aways. This simply educates the parents that this is more than a gaming machine, but a Blu-ray player and reinforces the fact that they've now bought into a format even though they might not even have an HDTV yet. Normally gaming consoles come with a free game
Unfortunately because of Toshiba's player subsidies, it's obvious why other third party manufacturers don't offer stand-alone HD DVD players like they do for Blu-ray. And in the consumer's eyes, it makes it look like a proprietary format - much like Sony BETA, and it is by definition. The Venturer Chinese players due for November 8th? still haven't appeared, and probably wont now that Toshiba has undercut them with the old A2 and discounted A3s.
I'm afraid that we're going to be stuck with two formats for many years IMO, and you better get used to it. I suggest being duel format if you don't want to miss out on anything, else make a top 100 list of all the movies you love and see which format supports it most. I also believe that as the months/years go by, we'll see more studios go neutral rather than exclusive in order to cash in on a growing market regardless of the divide among consumers.
Meanwhile another format war is still proceeding. I noticed when I was renting Shrek 3 on HD DVD today at the video store, all the people in line ahead of me had the "Full Screen" version of the film. I kid you not.
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Skyhawk,
Where the hell do you live? Fantasy Land? LOL
Yeah, the 1% wealthy of America can certainly afford to get their "Johnny" kid game consoles and HDTVs for thier bedroom. Do you have any clue the way the rest of America has to live? My god man, your analogy is soooo freaking far in left field that it's out of the ballpark. Yeah, if I lived in Malibu Beach I'll have all kinds of X-Boxes, PS3's and HDTV's for my kids, but the rest of America has bills to pay and keep food on the table. Your point of view only makes sense to a small minority of people that are fortunate enough to afford all these luxuries you treat as common place for everybody. For the love of Pete! Wake up to the real world!
Tim ..!..
[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Nov 13, 2007]
Where the hell do you live? Fantasy Land? LOL
Yeah, the 1% wealthy of America can certainly afford to get their "Johnny" kid game consoles and HDTVs for thier bedroom. Do you have any clue the way the rest of America has to live? My god man, your analogy is soooo freaking far in left field that it's out of the ballpark. Yeah, if I lived in Malibu Beach I'll have all kinds of X-Boxes, PS3's and HDTV's for my kids, but the rest of America has bills to pay and keep food on the table. Your point of view only makes sense to a small minority of people that are fortunate enough to afford all these luxuries you treat as common place for everybody. For the love of Pete! Wake up to the real world!
Tim ..!..
[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Nov 13, 2007]
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Johnson316, I hope you are kidding. Black simply means a black day, better known as a dark day for consumer Chritstmas shopping. It is considered to be the busiest day of the year for retailers. Hence, a "dark day" for retailers. It is so busy on that day that retailers "brace" themselves for it, wouldn't be the first time that fights broke out between consumers that are grabbing for the same merchandise on the shelves.
Actually it's called "Black Friday" because it is the most important day of the year in sales and usually determines whether a store will be in the "black" as opposed to the "red" for the year.
