Re: 90,000 HD DVD players sold in one weekend

bubblebathgirl,

I don't think anyone is challenging the fact that Blu-ray has more players in U.S. homes. There are about 1.7 million PS3s and another 100,000 stand-alone players in the U.S. as opposed to about 600,000 stand-alone HD DVD players and about 100,000 Xbox add-ons. So, it's about 1.8 million to 700,000 at the moment, Sony's favor, give or take.

But you do want to keep the statistics honest. The 5.5 million number you threw out was for total PS3 units shipped world-wide, of which 3.6 have sold world-wide, about 1.7 million of them in the U.S. You have to admit, you did make it sound more impressive than that for Sony, the way you worded your comment.

John

Oh come on that is all over the web they even discussed on the joke of a site bluray.com. They even talk about the not being able to play extras would make them mad. What a joke. I'm not a troll with tons of links just an informed consumer. I have both formats so I have no reason to post lies. That would be other blu ray people here. The links about some of the stuff is on blu ray.com and unless you are a member you can't go there anyway so why bother. Some seriously deluded fan boys there.

You have made it clear you do not like HD so stop with the propaganda and move along. I bet you are one of the blu blood plants.

tim,

is this from the arizona desert? looks good..

was it not less than 2 weeks ago, i believe that this website its self, posted that the ps3 was being OUT sold by the xbox and wii, 7 fold.

plus was it not expressed in the news and media, and also posted on this site aswell, that in japn alone, the ps3 ISNT SELLING !!!! WERE LOSING MILLIONS.....

but, yes so the blu discs are sellings more than hd, can you at least own up and say its becuase of your buy one get one free offer that you had..... and lets be honest here...... how pissed are the consumers going to be once they hear that they have to purchase the movies they spent $40 already, they have to buy another copy of it probably more..... IF (AND I MEAN IF) SONY ever fix the kinks and actually prove they can have a working picture and picture movie.... ohh im sorry (pip)

so dont be trying to list sales numbers... when we all know that the PS3....isnt selling no where near as much as sony not only expected...plus as much as the 360 or wii


thankyou and goodnight

John J. Puccio,
Please provide a link that shows how many PS3 units have been sold world wide.

SGD + jimcushnie,
No one believes you or gives you credit because you "promise" you're not lieing. Either provide links to backup your claims or no one will care. A truly "informed" user is so informed because they have proof. It sounds to me like you're an uninformed user with a chip on his shoulder.

BTW, if you need any proof of how well the PS3 is selling in Japan vs the 360, please see here:
http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?cons%5B%5D=PS3&cons%5B%5D=X360&reg%5B%5D=Japan&start=39026&end=39390

PS3 - 1,271,202
vs
360 - 299, 526

When it comes to Japan, the console and format war is already long since over. To make it clear, PS3 and Blu-ray have ALREADY won in Japan.

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[Post edited by bubblebathgirl on Nov 7, 2007]

@bubblebathgirl:

It's common knowledge that Sony releases "shipped" numbers because they are "sold" in terms of from Sony to retailers. Sony made their money, the issue is that the number will hold out there for a longer period of time because of oversupply and lack of demand meaning retailers won't order more to restock.

Why even mention Japan alone? It's irrelevant. Sony will always sell higher there. As for the format war, the U.S. could choose HD-DVD if they wanted to and it could stay that way. The U.S. is the largest market for things such as games and home video.

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[Post edited by Cellien on Nov 7, 2007]

Rpruthee,
While they are not sure where that picture is taken, they do know when it was... It was from 18 months into the future!!!

I saw it on PBS... It was an archaeological dig - they were looking for the look and sound of perfect. Here is another screenshot from the documentary:


I think they found it

Hey One-Cellian,
USA largest market for games?!?!? Are you drunk?

Falco,
You are the king of propaganda. vgcharts has long been a trusted source for gaming sales...
You need to come out of the dark... and into the light!

Just to set a few things straight, 1080i60 = 1080p30. They both contain the same information. Also, most of those blu-ray players that are outputing 1080p30 are not sending the information straight from the disc. They converting the signal to 1080i60 then deinterlacing it again to 1080p30, much like a 1080p television would do to a 1080i signal being sent to it. So it's just a matter of whether you want the tv, receiver or player to do the deinterlacing.

Now if you have a tv that can accept 1080p24, there can be a difference. Of course, you'd have to find a player that doesn't do any video processing in order to get exactly what is on the disc. I'm not aware of any players that do that. Some do output 1080p24, but they process the video first (Yes, the blu-ray players too).

So for the vast majority of people out there, the only difference between the $99 HD-A2 player that sold > 90K units in 3 days and the $500 blu-ray players is:

1. for $400 dollars more you can deinterlace the 1080i60 signal in the player as opposed to the tv, receiver or outboard scaler that some own. This is assuming that your tv can accept a 1080p signal.

2. for $400 dollars more you do not have profile 1.1 or 2.0 which would bring a blu-ray player up to the level of interactivity that hd dvd has had for > 18 months.

3. for $400 dollars more you may or may not have on-board decoding for advanced audio codecs.