Re: New buy one and get one free sale

John Puccio said -

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"The question is who is going to run out of money first, Sony or Toshiba, since both of them have to be losing money so far in this contest."

I don't know the answer obviously, but as for Toshiba and HD-DVD, they have NOT spent well over $1 BILLION (so far) like Sony has on development and manufacturing costs for everything Blu-ray and the PS3 (as previously reported).

Also, unlike HD-DVD replication, which is spread out among several dozen plants worldwide (with different companies), Blu-ray disc replication is mainly being done by Sony, at 3 plants they own in Japan, Europe, and the USA (Terre Haute, Indiana).

-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)

Love Hendrix, there are even "Indie" Blu-ray replication plants. The last one was built via GM plastics (irony) in Spokane, WA (more irony).

It is kinda funny. But times change for both camps.

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Love Hendrix, there are even "Indie" Blu-ray replication plants. The last one was built via GM plastics (irony) in Spokane, WA (more irony).

It is kinda funny. But times change for both camps.

The problem with the way Blu ray Discs are being manufactured for every 10 they print 2 or 3 might be sellable, and that is coming from the Sony plants, also many of the other plants deal in the 25GB discs, because most don't have the equipment to handle the 50GB discs, which is mostly printed by Sony. This is different than HD DVD which has a higher print success rate, not sure the recent numbers, and the fact that all of the plants can print the 30GB discs.

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[Post edited by 3dpenguin on Nov 13, 2007]

good info 3dpenguin. got any articles or sites expanding on this more?
does anyone got any mroe to contribute?

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The problem with the way Blu ray Discs are being manufactured for every 10 they print 2 or 3 might be sellable, and that is coming from the Sony plants, also many of the other plants deal in the 25GB discs, because most don't have the equipment to handle the 50GB discs, which is mostly printed by Sony. This is different than HD DVD which has a higher print success rate, not sure the recent numbers, and the fact that all of the plants can print the 30GB discs.

A little Google search shows the multitude of independent replication firms providing services for both HD DVD and Blu-ray that own their own equipment: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22blu-ray+replication%22+services&meta=

What's interesting is that many of them post replication prices. "EB Interactive" charges $2.42 for 50GB Blu-ray and only $1.62 for duel layer HD DVD per - in 25,000 lots.

"ProAction Media" currently does single layer Blu-ray only, and charges $1.59 per - in 25,000 lots, and duel layer HD DVDs for $1.55 per - in 25,000 lots. PacificDisks is a little better (again only single layer capability) and matches the price of HD DVD duel layer ($1.55) at ProAction, but for some mysterious reason charges $1.63 for double layer HD DVDs per - in 25,000 lots.

What does all this mean? I'm not sure!

But I suppose we can draw a few conclusions from this little sample:

1. A single layer Blu-ray seems to have about the same replication costs per disk as double layer HD DVDs.

2. A double layer Blu-ray costs significantly more per disk to replicate than double layer HD DVDs.

3. When shopping around to replicate your next 600,000 HD DVD or Blu-ray disks, it pays to shop around!

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[Post edited by Skyhawk on Nov 14, 2007]