Re: Michael Bay Accuses Microsoft of Conspiracy

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First of all HD DVD was around first and Sony introduced Blu-Ray after splitting from the DVD consortium

That's not quite accurate. A little history here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#History

People, it's MICROSOFT!!! They got money!!! They got 90% of all desktops operating systems!!!

I know that for most people, common sense doesn't work, but come on, let's get real. Google is trying to do their wireless thing, why can't MS do the same? Why do we cripple ourselves thinking that technology will not advance in the next couple of years? Who would've thought ten years what DVD would do to the market and how much money it would make? Who would've thought about having a high-speed connection in their homes (mainstream)?

The easiest thing would be to have a set-up box and a remote you select the movie you want, and you rent it. It downloads (you wait, of course, but when don't we) and then you watch it as many times as you want within a period of time. An easy interface is doable. A high-speed connection is doable. A free set-up box is doable. Why do we say this isn't possible???

I didn't say it was impossible. First of all I am talking about HD downloads. Movie download services like those on the iTunes store already exist. But HD increases bandwidth big-time and there are obstacles related to this.

It will happen, but my point was that it's not happening fast enough to make more money than disc formats immediately. In 5-10 years downloading may be the norm, but that's an eternity as far as movie revenue goes, so to actually think that they would be trying to kill the format is pretty misinformed. Discs stand to make more money for everybody for the time being.

So seriously just drop this whole 'trying to kill the format' lunacy. I don't know if this was invented by the Blu-ray side to discredit HD DVD or just a conspiracy nut's ramblings. But if it was invented to help Blu-ray, I say this to the Blu-ray people here: If you seriously want Blu-ray to win then drop these increasingly lame arguments about conspiracies behind HD DVD. It only stands to make the Blu-ray side look stupid and desperate, and that doesn't help you guys any. And that goes for the HD DVD side too, just incase you guys have a 'Blu-ray steals candy from babies' argument in the works.

If either wanted to win, they would've dropped the movie prices already.

That's a completely different topic, but you have actually killed your own theory with that.

Disc prices are high because the discs make more of a profit than any of the electronics. But if HD DVD was simply invented to destroy Blu-ray then why not sell the discs for $0.99. I mean your not in this to make a profit right? Just to kill Blu-ray. So why not even give the players and discs away for free. Yeah who's going to buy a Blu-ray player for $500 when you can get HD DVD for free. Yeah, this all makes perfect sense!

FYI it was mentioned somewhere on this forum that there are indie titles on HD DVD that retail for $14.99 or so. I am currently working on our first HD DVD title for an indie film and the producer and director are pushing to have it retail for the same price as the regular DVD.

Lower the prices to current DVD prices, which I think have gone up...

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In a top-level meeting in July, Microsoft's Bill Gates argued that the Blu-ray standard had to change to "work more smoothly with personal computers". The Blu-ray Disc Association's representatives defended the technology.[27]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#History

The should have listened to old billy, he got money, doing something right. java sucks. lol

everyone hates microsoft, windows, xbox, etc how they try to take over everything. most people use windows because is easy. plug and play. most people own 360 because it has plenty of games, and live! is fun. If you dont like a MS product dont buy it.

Im a Tech. i can use Windows or Linux. but not everyone can do that. if you dont like IE use something else. jeesh. I actually like some MS products, been using them for years. and honestly i dont remember paying for any. lol

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[Post edited by kucoloco on Dec 10, 2007]

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The should have listened to old billy, he got money, doing something right. java sucks. lol

Exactly why nearly 100% of fortune 500 companies base their mission critical enterprise systems on .Net solutions with ASP. Oh wait, that was Java, my bad!

In all seriousness, I bet Microsoft would have loved to have forced all third party Blu-ray manufacturers to be tied down to a specific operating system (Windows) by adopting Window's operating specific software. After all, a lack of openness and interoperability got Microsoft where it is today!