Pirates Blu-ray issues and solutions

Aye capt'n!!

i havent had any toruble yet with hd dvd lol, i guess blu ray is the best choice........ ummm not

Hey Henning,
If you're going to dink Disney for typos you might think about proofreading your own critique.
To wit:
"Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black"
Just a thought, but then again you're not selling me anything.

Thanks for the tip. The error has been corrected.

Althought the POTC: AWE movie itself played fine on my 2.01 ps3 40 @ 1080p/24, there is something definitely screwy with the menu navigation system of this title. I remember last night pressing (I think?) the top menu button on the talking skull & crossbones guy, and the screen temporarily went black for a second or two before it reappeared. Kinda scared me for a sec, since I'm never experienced a playback clitch on the ps3 yet. Luckily, apart from that everything else seemed to work normally.

hmmmm.....consistant framing problems......firmware upgrade for every other movie it seems.....high fail rates on 50gb media......no difference in pq......

blu seems to be first in all of the above....im just glad i bought hd dvd

They have problems, so what? They are replacing the discs, so no problem with that. And some people seem to really hate blu...chill people! Remember that all of us have the power to stop this, we can either buy just one format or none at all! And just a thought, how hard would it have been to give DVD extra layers so that it could acommodate more info? Was it so difficult?

I'm glad that I bought the $98 HD DVD player at Walmart...but I support BLU!

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hmmmm.....consistant framing problems......firmware upgrade for every other movie it seems.....high fail rates on 50gb media......no difference in pq......

Isn't the Internet fun? You can make things up like the above and look really stupid whenever you want

make things up?...i believe the blu had cropping issues with black pearl also.......
which were mentioned on this very forum too......

if you support blu, why do you have hd dvd then?

bit hypocritical dont you think?

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make things up?...i believe the blu had cropping issues with black pearl also.......
which were mentioned on this very forum too......

if you support blu, why do you have hd dvd then?

bit hypocritical dont you think?

----tummybanana


Here we go again?

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I'm never experienced a playback clitch on the ps3 yet. Luckily, apart from that everything else seemed to work normally.

---Skyhawk





Skyhawk,


There have been reports of users with v2.01 update for PS3 that they are open to some playback issues with POTC/AWE. So if you have v2.01 some strange things might happen until it is updated again to fix this problem.

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make things up?...i believe the blu had cropping issues with black pearl also.......
which were mentioned on this very forum too......
if you support blu, why do you have hd dvd then?
bit hypocritical dont you think?

Black pearl also? Along with consistently every other Blu-ray title?

I'm sorry, but if not being a lying radical fanatic means I'm hypocritical, that's fine with me. And yes I do own an HD DVD player, and many titles in the format. I guess being duel format means that I find it distasteful when fanboys from either side spread misinformation to attack the other format. Luckily I don't have to jump in to defend HD DVD, because anyone who would post anything even remotely insulting about the format would be banned from this site before I could read the post.

Tony,

yes I know. I've read the threads on AVSForum. It seems some have problems, and others don't for some reason. As I mentioned, something odd happened to me while navigating the menu last night, but I was unable to recreate it tonight. Hopefully we'll have a firmware upgrade soon that will solve everyone's issues with this movie. Between the Toshiba HD-A2 and the PS3, I'm now a firmware upgrade expert! I guess that's just one of the things we early adopters have to put up with.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Dec 6, 2007]

Exactly, it still does'nt make me second guess my decision.

Update on this:

Bill Hunt, the "infamous" guy from Digital Bits says he talked to Disney, and Disney thinks may have to do with the TV model/player setting combination as they are unable as yet to reproduce it, and the fact that only a subset of users are experiencing the lockup problem. So for those having the problem, they now want you to report your firmware and player setting detail, along with the TV model to their customer support people.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

The way people were describing the problem, it makes sense and it likely an HDMI communication problem, as the settings are probably renegotiated during additional handshaking when frame rate and/or audio codec change from the previews to the "skull land crossbones" menu guy. I swear, half the firmware upgrades on both the PS3 and Toshiba HD-A2 seem to address various HDMI incompatibilities that result from implementation differences on various target devices. Of course this paragraph is only guessing, but that's my first guess and I'm sticking to it!

Despite any problems with the Toshiba players in the very beginning at least there was an ONLINE firmware upgrade to repair the issue... we didn't have to stand around twiddling our fingers waiting for sony to face up to the problemssssssss and send out a disk, THX..:-}

Thats the thing I love about HD DVD. It was well thought out from the beginning. It has the ethernet ports for updating, the interactive features have been there from day one and the picture and sound are on par with bluray...all that and the players are much cheaper than bluray players. I just don't get what people think in supporting bluray, especially the studios.

I must concur... and I'm sure the fledgling blu backers are scratching there heads as well as to why they immersed themselves in the deluge of crap that sony force fed them... from what it is rumored, there could be another studio jumping ship, THX..:-}

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at least there was an ONLINE firmware upgrade to repair the issue... we didn't have to stand around twiddling our fingers waiting for sony to face up to the problemssssssss and send out a disk

Just to correct this blatant attempt to spread misinformation, both the PS3s and the Samsung BD-P1200 that are affected by this problem have an Ethernet port and are upgraded via the Internet automatically. This fact makes that post above dumb. Real dumb.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Dec 8, 2007]

Skyhawk, I think what he meant was there are a lot of bluray players that don't have ethernet ports so they can't download the fix that way. I'm assuming you ARE able to download the fix on a computer and put it on a cd, then run it on a bluray player?

About the waiting for the fix and twiddling your thumbs. Yes that would annoy me to no end BUT if they fix the problem in a reasonable time frame no harm done.

At the end of the day all this could have been avoided if we didn't have to worry about HDCP. Which has to be the stupidest way to prevent piracy ever and that applies to both formats.

Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End [Blu-ray] has lots of problems. I've experience other issues with this title using the PS3 on Sharp Aquos D64 Series HD-LCD

- Deleted Scene "Two Captains, One Ship" will not play without the director’s commentary. (User must switch audio using the players on-screen menu to switch the commentary off)

- “Enter the Maelstrom: The Interactive Experience” The talking skull intro spoke a different language (not English) before playing the featurette.

- User may lose audio “menu clicks” while navigating the menu while pip featurette is playing.

- No "Play All" for the "Masters of Design" (probably not an error but "play all" is standard for featurettes with multi-segments.)

Let’s face it some Blu-ray backed studios are still working out some bugs. I blame Disney not the Blu-ray format. I love the capabilities of my PS3 and would not trade it for another Blu-ray or HD-DVD player on the market.

Standard DVD Players have the biggest playback problems and Cover art typos of all time not Blu-ray or HD-DVD. Just do a quick internet search and you will find many web pages devoted to such playback problems and disc recalls for standard DVD discs.

I plan to post this on Amazon in hopes that someone will issue a disc recall.

Guys, wether some Blu players have ethernet or not, or if I had to download a disc.....some updates you gotta wait a while for. I dont know about you guys, but i been having people over every weekend.. the unnofficial "HD" get together among friends. now some people are aware of the war. and some dont really care... but just enjoy high def.. and will probably buy both formats....

Is not aceptable to not be able to watch a new release for a week or two, once investing all that money. you guys seem pretty calm but.... I would be very UPSET if my new Ultimatum HDDVD doesent play this week-end. but i dont normally worry, with how reliable HDDVDS are.

I’ve already mentioned all the bugs I've found but the reason the disc may not play on some TV’s nothing to do with Blu-ray.

Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End takes advantage of the 1080p 24Hz Output. If your TV can't handle 24Hz Output you must set your PS3 to "BD 1080p 24Hz Output (HDMI): Auto". It's that simple. Don't blame the disc format.

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Set "BD 1080p 24Hz Output (HDMI): Off" My PS3 is always set to auto and Pirates 3 played fine minus the bugs but I guess others will require the "Off" setting.

[Post edited by sumlikeitnot on Dec 10, 2007]

Sumlikeitnot, ALL HD DVD's and bluray movies are encoded in 1080p/24. Just letting you know.

sumlikeitnot said -

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"Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End takes advantage of the 1080p 24Hz Output. If your TV can't handle 24Hz Output you must set your PS3 to "BD 1080p 24Hz Output (HDMI): Auto". It's that simple. Don't blame the disc format."

Actually, except for a few native 1080i (interlaced) releases (for both formats), ALL releases are encoded on the disc as native 1080p/24, and you don't have to set your players for a special output so as to be "compatiable" with the disc.

My PS3 is set to 1080i output, and will play the Blu-rays just fine, regardless of the "auto" setting. Same for my Toshiba A1 player, where I've played HD-DVDs at both 1080i and 720p output of the signal. Haven't rented Pirates 3 on Blu-ray yet, though.

-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray owner ~

Actually on the PS3, set it to "off" and see if that works. If my memory serves me right, there are only two options on the PS3 - "Off" and "Auto". Auto settings on the PS3 use the HDMI communication to figure out the highest or best settings your display can handle - and will output 24fps if your TV says it can handle it. Perhaps the PS3 is mistakenly thinking certain displays can handle 24fps via the HDMI handshake when they really can't. I'm just guessing here since mine seems to work okay @ 24fps with the Optoma HD80.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Dec 10, 2007]

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