Warner Bros.: We have no plans to support Blu-ray exclusively

I hope that is true and other studios follow suit.

I don't believe anything that these companies say, I did'nt believe it when the rumor was WB is going Blu, because there was no exec from WB coming out to say, "Yes, as of 08' we are going exclusively Blu ray". The other thing that's funny is if you read articles that third parties are saying that they have spoken to WB exec's and they say, "WE HAVE MADE NO DECISION TO CHANGE OUR PRESENT POLICY....". Can you say "LOOPHOLE". That means at any given time this policy is subject to change. By not coming out and say anything and releasing statements through third parties only adds confusion to people that have not decided on a format and frustrates those that have.

[Post edited by tony1569 on Dec 13, 2007]

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Perhaps neutral IS the correct way to go

Just proves what we been saying all along, all rumors, and false info. just enjoy whatever format you picked, and wait it out... there is really nothing, any fanboy can do.

If they announce either way that in 2008 or 2009 that they'll be shifting, they'll be stuck with unselling products from the losing end.

When it comes, it will be swift and sudden and the only signs will be delayed releases of movies in the "other" format.

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When it comes, it will be swift and sudden and the only signs will be delayed releases of movies in the "other" format.

That's what happened in the 1980's with 4 channel stereo. Back then I had both a discrete and matrixed system for lps and tapes. The records and tapes were literally taken off the shelves overnight with no warning. I was shattered, then about 20 years later I sold the entire collection to a collector for big bucks.

I noticed that Warner's TWISTER is arriving the week of CES in January, on both HD-DVD and Blu-ray. And I'm hoping for both HEAT and AMADEUS (among other Warner titles) to come out in hi-def next year.

-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray owner ~

Hendrix I hope so (no jokes about me liking Twister now!)

High Def Digest still has this on their site as coming out May 6.

Good news for HD DVD to be sure! Call me crazy but I would rather keep both formats around for a while cause once theres a winner we won't get these buy one get one Blu ray or HD movies and a million free movies if you buy this deals and what not.

If Warner had decided to choose one format over the over I'm sure they wouldn't tell the consumers in the middle of the holiday season.

From the article:

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Once again Warner Bros. has to comment on rumors or now on what looks like wishful thinking by Blu-ray fans.

First time I read this "article".

Henning, it sure sounds like from reading this article that the source of the rumor was from some "Blu-ray fans". To clarify, this rumor was started via a published Business Week article in which the Lionsgate Vice Chairman Michael Burns is quoted saying “The rumor is that Warner is coming aboard soon.”

Perhaps you may consider Business Week Magazine one of those wishful thinking Blu-ray fans, (I'm sure Michael Burns is!) but the article should probably be clearer in identifying the actual "fan" that is being referred to. It's rather self-evident that other Blu-ray fans would be pleased by the rumor if it had turned out to be true, which I doubt any article by this site would have to explain.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Dec 13, 2007]

Hey this rumore just in!!! Warner Brothers has decided to drop both HD DVD and Blu Ray. Instead they are going to sink a ton of their $ into bringing back the 8 mm home movies.
Yea I know it is a joke, but you know what. This bogus rumor I just goofed about holds just as much water as WB going Blu Ray. SONY, I tell ya, you guys are some sneaky little shits. Yes clever indeed but sneaky all the same.

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Just proves what we been saying all along, all rumors, and false info. just enjoy whatever format you picked, and wait it out... there is really nothing, any fanboy can do.

I don't know. I think the Warner going to Blu rumors are true. LOL

Sorry to say it but I just cannot believe in this rumor. They have announced it officially in a press release. That is gospel in the corporate world, I know. They can still flip flop and get their PR people out but the writing is on the wall. If they do that they, will slowly sink into a sea of their own filth.

http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom/pr/0,20812,1700383,00.html

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posted by: invisibleBikerHey this rumore just in!!! Warner Brothers has decided to drop both HD DVD and Blu Ray. Instead they are going to sink a ton of their $ into bringing back the 8 mm home movies.
Yea I know it is a joke, but you know what. This bogus rumor I just goofed about holds just as much water as WB going Blu Ray. SONY, I tell ya, you guys are some sneaky little shits. Yes clever indeed but sneaky all the same.

LOL! Sony's sneaky trick made the HD-DVD camp cancel CES! LOL

I can't believe they fell for it. LOL

I know the_dvd_chef loves to hear inside info, so here's a little for you (this is not covered under my nondisclosure contract)


One of the Disc production plants that Paramount/DreamWorks uses, started to produce Blu-ray discs. They can't say what they are printing but someone on the inside told me that look for an announcement on or around May 1st 2008 with release dates set for August 2008.

Don't ask what's being released. That I cannot say.


Later, Super!

Yea ok and they are doing autopsys on Aliens in my back yard to. Here we go with another RICHARD HEAD added to my list. Hmmm or maybe it is the same RICHARD HEAD from before????

@ InvisibleBiker

My info is 100%. Just ask the master the_dvd_chef. I told him the date of the Warner announcement 2 months prior.

Hey RICHARD, can you tell me who killed JFK also??????

the CIA

[Post edited by superdynamte on Feb 13, 2008]

Better yet, I bet you know where The Holy Grail is barried???

[Post edited by InvisibleBiker on Feb 13, 2008]

Is Santa Clause real RICHARD????

First tell me who Richard is and what Barried means.

RICHARD which came first the chicken or the egg?? I just figured that you know all I might as well ask you.

Anyway,

Look for the announcement to be around may 1st. This means first week in may.


Thanks, Super!

I am sorry I slipped barried, and you figure out what RICHARD HEAD is.

[Post edited by InvisibleBiker on Feb 13, 2008]

Looks like Universal will be the last one holding the dead cat.

Paramount is printing. I can hear the machines now...


Click clack click clack

RICHARD can i ask you another question, is there really a tooth fairy? I mean some guy that enters your room at night, I am sure you would like that, and sneaks up only to put his hand under your pillow. Sounds kinda freaky to me.

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Click clack click clack

Is that how they sound? lol No wonder bluray has so many issues.

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Feb 13, 2008]

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I mean some guy that enters your room at night

Isn't the Tooth Fairy a chick? Always had been in my book.

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I am sure you would like that

Alright, can we knock off the 3 year old stuff?

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and sneaks up only to put his hand under your pillow.

I've always wondered about putting the tooth under the pillow. The amount I move around, it would end up behind the bed and I get no money. Who puts the tooth under the pillow anyway?

Jason

Sorry if you don't like it, but I'm just breaking the news for dvd_chef. I couldn't announce the NetFlix news, but if you look on Blu-ray.com and HD-DVD.com forum, I broke the BestBuy news 2 days before the announcement. It's not my news, I just break it.

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I know the_dvd_chef loves to hear inside info, so here's a little for you (this is not covered under my nondisclosure contract)


One of the Disc production plants that Paramount/DreamWorks uses, started to produce Blu-ray discs. They can't say what they are printing but someone on the inside told me that look for an announcement on or around May 1st 2008 with release dates set for August 2008.

Don't ask what's being released. That I cannot say.


Later, Super!

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One of the Disc production plants that Paramount/DreamWorks uses, started to produce Blu-ray discs. They can't say what they are printing but someone on the inside told me that look for an announcement on or around May 1st 2008 with release dates set for August 2008.

some one told me you like me and im not telling everyone out there.

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Yea ok and they are doing autopsys on Aliens in my back yard to. Here we go with another RICHARD HEAD added to my list. Hmmm or maybe it is the same RICHARD HEAD from before????

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dude, a while back a pack of accounts all joined within weeks and all were posting in the same trol style.

blucanada
superdynamite
biblyboy
funstuff
etc it keeps going and going and going

I heard this rumor about a month ago that Universal and Paramount were "looking" at Blu Ray authoring houses, guess that rumor turned out to be correct. That will bring the final 2 into the fold and end the war for good, I guess.

Again, nothing I am stating here is fact, only rumors. HDDVD may still have a chance, and I think it is NOT a bad format.

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Looks like Universal will be the last one holding the dead cat.

who cares----

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Paramount is printing. I can hear the machines now...

insane-------

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Click clack click clack

priceless-----

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Posted by Blu_Bawla:
I heard this rumor about a month ago that Universal and Paramount were "looking" at Blu Ray authoring houses, guess that rumor turned out to be correct. That will bring the final 2 into the fold and end the war for good, I guess.

Again, nothing I am stating here is fact, only rumors. HDDVD may still have a chance, and I think it is NOT a bad format.

I haven't heard anything about Universal. The inside word is that there will be an announcement by "another studio" around May 1st with major release dates in August. I can't say who, I can only say Paramount is printing. Which makes perfect sense because they must have gone gold last month when the rumors started circulating.

Hey JJ, if you remember in the Santa Claus movies, the Tooth Fairy was a dude. LOL

And yes it is childish that we have certain people posting these rediculous threads.

I'm afraid I've never seen the Santa Clause movies.

Ya know, I sometimes think if we put the energy and effort devoted to shiny little discs into something productive (like hunger, poverty, war, disease...), we'd be in such a better place.

Heck, if we stopped with the insults back and forth, the format "war" would be in a better place, too.

Jason

Like I said before there RICHARD, that Best Buy story is garbage. They have supported SONY and Blu Ray from the first day they jumped into this war. They are just now coming out and saying that they will openly support them now. Yea like they are not going to carry any HD DVD products. So they might as well stop selling the dual players and anything made by Toshiba then.

Or maybe I will just start a thread that says hey I heard that WB is reconsidering there deal with Blu Ray and going neutral again. But I won't because that is pure horse scat!!!!

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Like I said before there RICHARD, that Best Buy story is garbage. They have supported SONY and Blu Ray from the first day they jumped into this war. They are just now coming out and saying that they will openly support them now. Yea like they are not going to carry any HD DVD products. So they might as well stop selling the dual players and anything made by Toshiba then.

IB,
You are right. The salesmen in Best Buy & Circuit were already promoting Blu-Ray, long before Best Buy's announcement. The ISS on that story was on my post on HD-DVD.com. BestBuy is phasing out HD-DVD. They say that they'll still offerer them but they won't order any of the back catalog. By the 3rd week in March you won't see any HD-DVD's at the locations. This coinsides with the Warner dates. The ISS on that is, Amazon might be buying BestBuy's overstock at a discount.

What web site said that BB is phasing out their stock of HD DVD movies? Thats funny, when all of you Blu Ray guys were posting the rediculous threads a few weeks ago about this same thing. I checked with my local BB, CC, Sears and Wal Mart. None of them said they were dropping HD DVD. As long as there making money, and they are, they will continue to sale HD DVD products.
Look I do not care if you WOOP it up over Blu Ray, but you got to stop posting these un- true threads. Remember, Paramount and Universal have contracts through march 2009 and thats pure fact. And don't start with they have a hitch claus to get out of their contract. Because that was proven flase about a month ago.

you name is not super ........ is Napoleon



[Post edited by kucoloco on Feb 13, 2008]

No it's Richard kuc, and IT AINT OVER UNTIL TOSHIBA SAY'S SO.

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Click clack click clack

At first I though this a Blu-Ray player trying to read a disc...

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The salesmen in Best Buy & Circuit were already promoting Blu-Ray, long before Best Buy's announcement.

Of course they are the markup is better, plus you got to come back and buy the newer profile once they get released.

LoL!!!

Just look at the name of this thread:

Warner has NO plans to support Blu-ray. LOL

I guess you guys know what you're talking about... NOT! lol

http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.php?p=21176#post21176

[Post edited by suprdynamite on Feb 13, 2008]

Can someone ban this guy... again?

Only reporting the truth. Sorry

Do you realize that this article was posted exactly two months ago?

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... Remember, Paramount and Universal have contracts through march 2009 and thats pure fact. And don't start with they have a hitch claus to get out of their contract. Because that was proven flase about a month ago.

You're so clueless. Universal's contract expired last month and was not renewed. You're so full of misinformation that it's painful.

Also, Paramount has an escape clause.

Universal HD DVD exclusivity contract has expired, sits non-renewed
Posted Jan 10th 2008 12:39PM by Steven Kim
Filed under: HDTV, Home Entertainment

More news from the format war today, and it isn't good for the red camp. Daily Variety has confirmed that Universal's agreement to stick with HD DVD has ended and has not been renewed. Additionally, Paramount has an escape clause in its contract that can be exercised following Warner's departure from the (now dwindling) HD DVD ranks. The article highlights various ongoing commitments both companies have to the format, but we've heard these kind of promises before from studios. It's feeling like a party where everyone leaves at once nobody wants to be the first out the door, but everyone's looking in that direction

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Do you realize that this article was posted exactly two months ago?

Right! It's false now and it was false 2 months ago. That's the point. You're all falling for the HD-DVD propaganda that Toshiba & M$ spew out all over the internet. Toshiba & M$ try to fool all the Middle america Hicks because they know they're not smart enough to decern right from wrong on their own.

Don't fall for more of this stuff. It's your hard earned money that is going to waste. It's not right for us, the consumer, to be played a fool like this. I'm only looking out for us! That's more than I can say for Toshiba and M$.

So you're saying everyone in middle america is not only a hick, but ignorant? The irony is killing me.

How exactly is this HD DVD propaganda? It came straight from warner bros! This wasn't a Toshiba press release or anything. Did you even read it? I'll go ahead and answer that for you. You obviously didn't. Because if you did you would know that the comment actually came from Warner bros senior vice president and general manager.

Hey Superdick,

I bought a PS3 yesterday and let me tell you, the HD-DVD is the better format. SO far the movies I have watched in BR have shown me nothing in clarity or something spectacular. I have seen HD-DVD release that outshine BR release and I am watching Superman Returns right now on both formats and I am not friggin impressed. Again the BR transfer has more grain, and it is not my TV or the HDMI connections as I not only put on two new cables, i even switched the ports to see if it was a port problem.

So take your BR praise and shove it up your ass, as of right now I consider the format total shit, and I am sorry i wasted my money. In fact I am going to pack this bastard up tonight and return it to the store, then take my credit and go buy HD-DVD movies with it.

Also, if yo actually read the friggin article you would have seen it came from WB, who in fact LIED to the public. So go shill your Sony Blu-Ray bullshit elsewhere... scumbag.

[Post edited by DjfunkmasterG on Feb 13, 2008]

Sorry. Nope.

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Hey Superdick,

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So take your BR praise and shove it up your ass

I-and I'm sure others here-would REALLY REALLY appreciate it if the personal tit-and-tat like this could stop. There is absolutely no reason for insults like the ones I quoted. Using language like that does not bolster any opinion.

Jason

i AGREE, DJFMG fell for his posts hook, line and sinker, and sank to HIS level. I have both formats, and can't see a difference between them, in only that HDDVD has a better menu and content look, other than that, the PQ imo, is the same.To bad they don't have the studio support.

On another note XBOX just called me and let me know that after 3 months, I will be getting a NEW XBOX from them scheduled for delivery tomorrow from FED EX. I sent it to them in November for a problem with not recognizing games, only dvd's and am just getting it back, what a nightmare this whole thing was, I bet I would have bought MORE HDDVD's had I had my XBOX, instead of BR on my PS3.

Listen everyone, I'm as upset as the next HD-DVD guy that studios are dropping a better quality product in favor of fast monetary gain. Especially since they use the consumer as their reason for choosing BD. Unfortunately, insulting inmature BD supporters who are waiving in our faces the spoils of an inminent victory will not stop the wheels of defeat from turning.

So what we need to do as true HD-DVD supporters (an consumers overall), and again this is only my own humble opinion, is to keep on buying our favorite HD-DVD movies until the HD-DVD camp stops producing them, show real class and keep our heads high in this inminent time of defeat, and buy only DVD's and play them on our upconverting HD-DVD players because they are as good as any BD movies out there.

This way we'll show the corporate establishment of Hollywood what the consumer really wants. Turst me, if people sticks with DVD's over BD, we can still win the REAL DVD war. We as consumers faced out Laser Disks once and we can do it again.

[Post edited by wii-lite on Feb 13, 2008]

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Posted by Blu_Bawla: I bet I would have bought MORE HDDVD's had I had my XBOX, instead of BR on my PS3.

I agree. If M$ would have put an HD-DVD drive in the 360, Blu-ray would have NEVER won. That is a fact.

TOTALLY agree w/you there!! I could not understand why the ELITE did NOT have an HDDVD drive in it, so maybe M$ made them lose I would have to say!!! Damn Bill Gates!

The simple fact is that if MS put an HD-DVD drive in the Elite it would have ran the cost up to around the price of a PS3. And that's exactly what they DO NOT want to do.

Mike I hear you, BUT I also think it woulda gave the edge to HDDVD, I bought the add on from Sam's Club for 159.99 with King Kong, and all I bought at first were HDDVD's, my XB broke, I send it off, got pissed and my wife got me a PS3, and we have been BR ever since that, and also the fact that SHE likes the cases they come in. I am just saying would that have never happened I would have never went to the Blu side to begin with, who knows how many more stories like that are out there???

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A few of people keep bringing up this argument, does anybody have a copy of this so called contract?
I'd like to see it.

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The simple fact is that if MS put an HD-DVD drive in the Elite it would have ran the cost up to around the price of a PS3. And that's exactly what they DO NOT want to do.

I bought XBox360 the spring of 2006. It was great. I loved my XBox360, even though I was a little pissed that I had to pay for XBoxLIVE service. I bought my PS3 in 2006 because it was capable of playing HiDef discs for movies & games. I sold my whole XBox360 package (without games) for $580 on eBay. It was the best thing I ever did. But I'll tell you what... If 360 had an internal HD-DVD drive that played Movies & Games, I would have never sold it. I would have still bought PS3 but I would have never went 100% Blu.

Microsoft is a sham in my eyes. They are liers and cheats. My 360 never broke. I think because it was one of the first. My friend Jay went through 3 premiums and 2 Elites already. That is INSANE!!!

I bought my 360 for $399 & the WiFi for $99. That's $500 right there. My PS3 was only 100 more. So I don't understand the price issue. The 360 was cool when it came out in 2005, but now, that's it. It's life cycle is complete. PS3 and Blu-ray are going to take over and it's all Microsoft's fault.

They release XBox's like they're going out of style. Every coupld of months there is a new one. They should have just release a FULL HD version without the Red Ring of Death. Then Blu-Ray would have never been.

Original XBox - November 15th, 2001
360 Premium - Nov 2005
360 Core - 2005
Elite - May 2007
Halo Edition - 2007
Arcade - 2007

That's 6 different consoles within 6 years, 5 of which that have completely different capabilities.

It makes no sence. M$'s backwards logic is what ultimately killed the HD-DVD Format.

I must say, that although I am a fan of HD-DVD, I do think that it was Microsoft's fault that the format failed. I own a hell of a lot of HD-DVD movies (83) and I feel cheated that Microsoft didn't support the format to their full potential. I mean, I'm happy they paid off Paramount & Dreamworks but I don't consider that to be, "looking ahead". All Microsoft did was put a bandaid on a broken leg.

I mean, hell, you want to beat Sony in the console wars and defeat them in the HiDef war and the best you can come up with is paying off a studio. Big deal! That's not getting my well earned money back for all the crap I bought. Put the damn drive in the 360 already. Frig!

Although I think Superdynamite is a mental case and I don't agree with anything he says, I do think that his points about Microsoft and the two formats are true. Microsoft came out of the box like a bat outta hell. They said HD-DVD was gonna be the next format. Oh Yeah? Well what the hell happened Microsoft? Where are you now? Now we need you and you just walk away? I'm pretty mad at them for abandoning the format so quickly.

So now, I'm gonna face the facts. What else can I do? I'm not investing anymore money, that's for sure. Paramount & Universal can't lose money forever. When they switch over to blu, I guess that's when it will truly be over. But for now, I think I have a good month or so to eBay all my HD-DVD stuff. I'll probably be able to recoup more than half if I do it before the last two studios turn.

Thanks for listening,

Very Sad Red4Ever

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Posted by Red4EVER:
Although I think Superdynamite is a mental case and I don't agree with anything he says, I do think that his points about Microsoft and the two formats are true.

Red,

What?!?!?!? You don't agree with anything I say, but you agree with what I say about Microsoft, BD & HDDVD?

Well, what the hell else to I talk about?!?!?!

[Post edited by suprdynamite on Feb 13, 2008]

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Are you a total buffoon?

In case you missed my earlier point about someone calling you names, can it. As in stop. Period.

#1 rule: No personal attacks. Discuss the content of a post. Do not attack the poster. This includes name-calling.

Clear enough?

Jason

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Although I think Superdynamite is a mental case

Hey Jason,

What are you the blog police? How about the one you missed? or is it just because I'm Blu and you two are Red?

[Post edited by suprdynamite on Feb 13, 2008]

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I agree. If M$ would have put an HD-DVD drive in the 360, Blu-ray would have NEVER won. That is a fact.

Not really. If the 360 had HD DVD standard it would have obviously been more expensive and may not have taken off the way it did. If they still could make it $400 at launch then yeah it would have been a success.

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Not really. If the 360 had HD DVD standard it would have obviously been more expensive and may not have taken off the way it did. If they still could make it $400 at launch then yeah it would have been a success.

What do you mean, "Not Really"?

It happened already. Sony's business model is proven. You're saying NOT REALLY to something that already happened. If M$ could do it all over again, they'd put the HD-DVD drive in the 360.

PS3 was $599 at launch.
360 was $399 without anything. No WiFi, No HD. After you buy the WiFi, it's $500 anyway. What's another $100?

Microsoft dropped the ball on the HD-DVD thing, BigTime!!!

What are we going to do about it now. It's too late. I hope they learn for next time, if there is a Next time.

They should refund all the money I spent on their junk. Like I said, I'm eBaying everything. I hope I can recoup some of the money I spent.

Thanks a lot M$.

The only thing OVERATED SONY has proven, is that Money talks and bullshit runs the marathon. Yea that's right they threw so much ching around it aint funny. Junk, talk about junk, they can't even get their stand alone players right. Recall this, Blu Ray movies not playing on that. But oh never fear PS3 is here. LMFAO, it is a gaming system, that says it is a movie machine. Hell if I was a gamer I would be pissed, they offer Spiderman 3 free but no games. And to top it all off, the 7 year old PS2 is kicking it's ass.
Go ahead Blu Boys, keep gloating, because the only thing SONY will prove is how they killed the HD DVD technology. Yea thats right, all Blu Ray is, is HD DVD hiding behind your little blue box.

I honestly think that Sony knows their product is flawed and that's why they bought off everyone. A prove of this is that Sony did not launch an official BD website like the HD-DVD camp did until last month when Sony secured WB and Fox. And that's a fact because I was looking for the longest time their official BD site and nothing all of the sudden, right after WB announced BD only, the official BD site popped up out of nowhere like a daisy in the spring. They did not, and I bet still do not have faith in their own product.

I think some of you are confusing a gaming system and a High Def Movie player. The Xbox 360 was meant as a gaming system. It has far surpassed PS3 in gaming aspects. All Sony did was put out a subpar gaming system with Blue Ray in it. But Sony had to have something so they hedged there bets on Blue Ray. They knew it would win them the blu ray showdown and hopefully gain the some gamers. Well they got the Blu ray business with spending a little money but they still are leaps and bounds behind the WII and Xbox 360 as far as gaming goes. Microsoft never intended the 360 to be a movie player. Just like they didn't the original Xbox. Yes the add on is available (which I did buy) but the games and Xbox live are what sell the Xbox. Also when Toshiba does throw in the towel, Microsoft will have a Blu Ray attachment as well. I think people here forget that Microsoft and Sony are publicly traded companies that have people to answer to when profits aren't right. They aren't your mom and dad looking out for your best interest. Try to remember Xbox / Microsoft = gaming and software, PS3 / Sony = Blu ray and an assortment of other hardware. I love how people get so bent out of shape about all this in these forums. It's what a few hundred dollars? Suck it up and move on. This goes for both the Blu Ray and HD DVD whiners!

Tim - As much as I love to hate you. Can't you help me make these people quit whining about nothing!

[Post edited by swanson on Feb 13, 2008]

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It happened already. Sony's business model is proven. You're saying NOT REALLY to something that already happened. If M$ could do it all over again, they'd put the HD-DVD drive in the 360.

You're starting to get annoying. It's like you don't read. YES IT WORKED FOR THE PS3. The Xbox 360 is a TOTALLY different story. If they had put HD DVD standard then the 360 would have failed miserably.

1. They would have had to release the xbox 360 in 2006 head to head with the PS3.
2. They would have to increase the price of the console.

The 360 WOULDNT be where it is today had they put HD DVD in it.

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You're starting to get annoying. It's like you don't read. YES IT WORKED FOR THE PS3. The Xbox 360 is a TOTALLY different story. If they had put HD DVD standard then the 360 would have failed miserably.

1. They would have had to release the xbox 360 in 2006 head to head with the PS3.
2. They would have to increase the price of the console.

The 360 WOULDNT be where it is today had they put HD DVD in it.

NutmanIV you couldn't be more right. Microsoft DOES NOT care about the High Def DVD game. I can download Ratatouille of Xbox live in HD and it is Blu Ray only on disc. They would have never put HD DVD into their system. It isn't their war to win. Toshiba fell on it's ass trying to defeat Sony and BDA. I support red and will admit that.

[Post edited by swanson on Feb 13, 2008]

You're all right. But that doesn't change the fact that we're out the money we spent on our HD-DVD's. No matter how you slice it, Microsoft has no idea what they are doing. They didn't plan for the future. And since they didn't plan ahead, I own a format that won't be around by summer time. I'm pissed.

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You're all right. But that doesn't change the fact that we're out the money we spent on our HD-DVD's. No matter how you slice it, Microsoft has no idea what they are doing. They didn't plan for the future. And since they didn't plan ahead, I own a format that won't be around by summer time. I'm pissed.

I can understand being upset. I only support red and have bitter feelings myself. Then again it's only High Def movies were talking about. Don't let it eat away at you. It's just the way the big business works. I sit in meetings everyday with these pooh heads and they care about one thing. THEMSELVES

You guys are right about Microsoft, they never intented for the XBOX 360 to be a video player, only a gaming console. As for Sony it was teh opposite, Sony's main priority was to push Blu-ray because that's where the real money is. Why do you guys think Sony is being trying for almost 30 years to push for their proprietary media (Betamax, MiniDisk, UMD, etc.) to become the standard for all companies to use? Because if they were to succeed to create a media format of entertainment for every company to use, then everyone from movie studios to hardware manufactures and video game developers would have to pay Sony a fee to use its medium.

That's why Nintendo is actually using their own proprietary seudo-DVD format for the Wii games, because Nintendo didn't want to pay the DVD group royalties and fees for using their format (DVD). Which is the same reason why the Wii will not be able to play standard DVD's even with a firmware update.

Sony new knew 20 years ago that software licensing is where the money really is. That is why Sony tried to partner Nintendo 20 years ago to create the CD add-on for the SNES. But Nintendo is not affraid and saw that the contract Sony laid out was to vague and would have given Sony majority rights and royalties over the games so Nintendo pulled out leaving Sony with the blueprint to create the PlayStation.

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Well, what the hell else to I talk about?!?!?!

Movies . . . in a place WHERE MOVIES MATTER!

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Tim - As much as I love to hate you. Can't you help me make these people quit whining about nothing!

Hell, I've tried over the last year, but apparently HD & Blu is a current world problem that needs our undevided attention. We have famine in Africa, world wide environmental issues, insane gas prices, war in Iraq and border issues in the US. But oh no, Hi-def format issues are far more important to bicker and argue about!

Amazing, isn't it? People making thread after broken record thread over an electronics box that plays discs. It's really sick when you think about it. Fanboys . . . talk about a group of people that really need to lighten up and get a life!

[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Feb 13, 2008]

Oh please! Let's not get started on the wii. That's another thing I wanna throw under a Mac truck.

I buy a Wii last year. I buy 5 or 6 games that are ok. Then, the crazy software companies announce that they don't want to develop games for the damn thing. So now I have to rely on Nintendo to develop games for my system. I mean, come on man!!!!! What the hell. They release 1 damn Mario every 10 years. Everything else is pretty much junk.

What do these companies think they're doing? They just release consoles and players that are good for a year. It's a big joke. I'm sick of this crap. I'm sure I will go blu eventually. I'm sure all of us will go blu within the next year or so. But the point is, we had no choice.

Screw Wii & HD-DVD! Screw Toshiba & Microsoft too. I hate them! I will never buy their products again. Paramount & Universal can go screw themselves too, because if they didn't back this defunked format we would have never invested our money in such a looser!

wil-lite said -

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"That's why Nintendo is actually using their own proprietary seudo-DVD format for the Wii games, because Nintendo didn't want to pay the DVD group royalties and fees for using their format (DVD). Which is the same reason why the Wii will not be able to play standard DVD's even with a firmware update."

Well, last year I read some 'scuttlebut' about how the NEXT generation of Wii might include a DVD drive. Just speculation, but it's always possible. The 'DVD royalty' is not much of an issue (per unit made/sold), and easily added to the player's cost, and paid by the end user = customer.

-LH (The Loverboy)

The Wii can play DVDs. You can hack it to do so. It has the ability to play DVDs it just isnt "unlocked". Basically, Nintendo didnt want to pay royalties for it, but they may plan on charging later on. The customers pay to unlock it so nintendo doesnt have to cover the cost. Microsoft did the same thing with the xbox...They sold a $30 or $40 unit(with a remote) that plugged into a controller port and allowed you to play DVDs.

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What are you the blog police? How about the one you missed? or is it just because I'm Blu and you two are Red?

Not to get terribly off topic, if you noticed: I did get onto DJFunk earlier twice, once with an inappropriate comment on your user name and then with telling you what to do with the PS3. I also asked he refrain from making offensive-named threads.

Second, don't for a second think this has anything to do with which format I prefer. I have both a PS3 and HD A3. I enjoy them both. This is about making the message boards (not a blog, by the way) a place for all people to converse without being confronted with cursing and inappropriate comments. Or making sure the rules, as stated below, are followed.

Jason

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The 'DVD royalty' is not much of an issue (per unit made/sold), and easily added to the player's cost, and paid by the end user = customer. (LH)

That's why Nintendo opted to leave many "features" out of the initial Wii version like DVD playback and 720p high resolution graphics. Because they wanted to keep the cost low and mainstream the Wii to masses. I honestly think 720p graphics are over-rated and I don't need DVD playback for I already have like 3 DVD players in the house (not including my 3 PC's) I welcome Nintendo's innovation over pretty graphics anyday and so do the 1.8 million new buyers a month around the world.

As for our disgrunted friend Red4Ever, you know that Japanese overall they care more about quality than quantity (although there are a few exceptions like Sony who only care about money, lol), you should know by now that Nintendo only cares about bringing quality in their franchise games, that's why you'll only see ONE, maybe two releases of their big franshises such as Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and now Smash Bros. Nintendo does not want their product to become low quality by releasing once every year. Nintendo takes pride on their product.

Look at the difference between Nintendo and another game powerhouse like EA. EA releases yearly versions of almost all their franchises, not only sports but shooting as well (Modeal of Honor, etc.) and most of their yearly games do not go beyond a rating of 6.0-7.0 in most game sites and that's a fact. They only care about giving the consumer a lot of low-quality games at a high price because they know the Western consumer will pay for anything because the Western consumer only cares about instant gratification. And that's also a fact.

As for Wii games, we all knew the Wii was aim for a variety of gamers raging from hard-core but mainly to the casual gamer. Nintendo always said that prior to launch, so you need to open your game-horizons and see the wide variety of good games the Wii has. Sure, granted Nintendo is taking slow-baby steps to get online, but the few online games are very good so far even with Nintendo's leash on online (Medal of Honor: Heroes 2, GH:III, Mario Strikers Charged, etc.) and the best part is that is FREE!!!

But anyway, I think all of us are going way out of topic here. )

The Wii may be fun to play but its graphics look like crap. My friend brought over Zelda to show me on my hi def tv. First thing he said was "now the graphics may dissapoint", lol. If you have a large hi def tv its real hard to justify buying a Wii when the Xbox and PS3 look so good. If Nintendo had put some work into the graphics engine and included Hi Def I would have bought one. I hope their next outing in the console world includes a powerful beast. I would pick them over Microsoft and Sony because Nintendo makes quality hardware (not much breaking down).

Yeah it's not a powerful machine. I'd say it's slightly better than an Xbox. The graphics can look good though. Have you played super mario galaxy?

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The Wii may be fun to play but its graphics look like crap. My friend brought over Zelda to show me on my hi def tv. First thing he said was "now the graphics may dissapoint"

Well, in that case you gotta consider that Zelda was originally a GCN game where the game controls were re-designed for Wii. To truly appreciate (or dislike, he he) the real potential of Wii graphics you need need to look at games specifically design for Wii from the ground-up like Super Mario Galaxy, Mario & sonic at the Olympics, Medal of Honor: Heroes 2, Red Steel (although game mechanics sucked), Super Mario Charged, Metroid, etc. All of those games and many more have excellent graphics and is not only me saying this but the game critics say it as well.

But at the end is matter of taste. Some prefer kewl graphics, other prefer game fun some like HD and some like BD (yuck! lol). The beauty is in the eye of of beholder. )

hey everyone,

Just thought I'd let you know...

www.HD-DVD.com and the HD-DVD.com forum was taken down. It now directs you to Amazon.com to buy HD-DVDs.

What a joke. Toshiba and Microsoft scam of the century!

Don't fall for it. I'm on your side, not theirs. I'm a consumer like you.

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www.HD-DVD.com and the HD-DVD.com forum was taken down. It now directs you to Amazon.com to buy HD-DVDs.

Ya know what, I can't stand the HD-DVD Forum. They are the biggest JO's I have ever seen. I wish I could get my money back on all the crap I bought. It's just not fair. I buy a Player and 8