Pirates 3 sells 160,000 copies in 1st week

Pirates 3: AWE has so far sold 160,000 copies.

http://www.n4g.com/News-92485.aspx

[Post edited by tony1569 on Dec 13, 2007]

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/22/transformers-hd-dvd-sets-new-high-definition-sales-records/

Transformers sold 190,000 in it's first week. And 300 sold 250,000 combined HD DVD/Bluray.

That should tell you something. Imagine the numbers if Pirates or Transformers were released on both formats.

I know this has likely been said before, but since this format war will likely continue for a while more studios need to release titles on both formats to help the sales numbers of HD general.

And before anyone calls me a 'HD DVD fanboy' for posting HD DVD numbers on a thread about Blu-ray sales, let me set the record straight. I am against studios taking either side. I was against Paramount's decision to drop neutrality. I think more studios should be going neutral and giving consumers a choice, not the opposite. Large studios should remain neutral until one format has dwindled to the point of not being profitable, which neither is close to at this point and likely wont be for several years.

I know I stated that the indie title I am working on has gone HD DVD only, but that's out of practicality, and not having the luxury of releasing on 3 formats when 2 is already a stretch. Big studios can afford to release their titles on both formats and I believe they should. Not doing so is ramming the choice down the consumer's throat instead of letting us decide. And that goes for HD DVD only studios as well as Blu-ray only studios.

Tony,

As the article says, Disney has sold "160,000 Pirates Blu-ray copies," but that number is for all three "Pirates" movies on Blu-ray combined. It's still a healthy number of copies, but I've seen the actual VideoScan numbers for this week (ending 12-12), and together the three movies total more than the number indicated. I suspect the numbers I looked at were newer than the ones in the article.

John

[Post edited by John J. Puccio on Dec 13, 2007]

The Transformers numbers are in dispute, 190,000 is said to come from units shipped but that's NOT BEEN CONFIRMED. We have to treat that situation with a asterisk.

[Post edited by tony1569 on Dec 13, 2007]

Quote:
units shipped

Oh you mean like Units shipped for PS3's?

touche

Tony,

You're right about the "Transformers" number needing an asterisk. The actual VS sales number is slightly short of the quoted amount, although VS doesn't include Wal-Mart sales.

The trouble with all these statistics (and why the AVS Forums pretty much banned them from discussion) is that none of them can accurately account for all sales everywhere. They're all limited in some way. But if you look at the VS stats, the Amazon numbers, and the DVD Empire numbers, they tend to provide a good idea of general trends, and usually they are in agreement with one another on percentage breakdowns.

John

No John,

I believe it's just for the third installment like to title of the article says.

Tony,

Forgive me, I don't mean to dispute your word, but I have been privy to the actual VS sales numbers (as opposed to the general percentages that they publish for the public) for the week ending 12-12, and while they are always kept in absolute confidence (only the studios are supposed to see the actual numbers), trust me, the 160,000 number quoted in the article is not from the latest VS stats. Perhaps the article is citing some other source for its numbers? Perhaps it's adding an estimated Wal-Mart number in as well. I don't know.

John

Movielover316: awesome link. Thanks.

((( arg, wrong thread )))

[Post edited by the_dvd_chef on Dec 13, 2007]

Well, 160,000 for the three is a very weak number, regardles off the * in Transformers' 190,000.

Again, I drool when I pass by Ratatouille and Cars on Blu-ray...and little bit with the three Pirates...

I couldn't find the Nielsen numbers John, but there was an article that did say that Nielsen does not include Wal-mart numbers in some of theire stats.

Tony,

Nielsen does not publish actual numbers, only a general breakdown in sales in terms of percentages. Only studios and related others see the actual numbers. Which is why you can't always trust articles that quote Nielsen "numbers." The numbers may or may not be accurate for either format. Usually, as one poster already pointed out, studios themselves publish their own numbers, which often include units shipped, not necessarily sold.

Also, Wal-Mart does not report its numbers to Nielsen as other retailers do. So one can only estimate their sales, which can be quite high, at least in the SD market where they account for a huge percentage of total discs sold.

John

[Post edited by John J. Puccio on Dec 13, 2007]