Wednesday, December 26, 2007
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If given the choice of the $2500 to $3000 range which is better to go with the larger 720p or the smaller 1080p? Just wondering what other enthusiests think. Looking at the 60" range but would it be better to go down to say a 52" with a better resolution.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007
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As a person with a screen at 130", let me tell you this:
Quality is better than size, especially when it comes to AV. I'd rather spend twice the amount on a great 720p display than an entry-level 1080 display when it comes to flat panels. That 1080 crappy LCD display might look good overblown in the brightly lit aisle at Best Buy, but once you get it home and turn down the lights, you're going to freak out - and I mean in a bad way. You might miss your old CRT that's now in the kid's room.
Resolution and size is just one measure of "quality". I tend to "like my cake and eat it too", which means I'm into front projection. But that's another controversy!
Quality is better than size, especially when it comes to AV. I'd rather spend twice the amount on a great 720p display than an entry-level 1080 display when it comes to flat panels. That 1080 crappy LCD display might look good overblown in the brightly lit aisle at Best Buy, but once you get it home and turn down the lights, you're going to freak out - and I mean in a bad way. You might miss your old CRT that's now in the kid's room.
Resolution and size is just one measure of "quality". I tend to "like my cake and eat it too", which means I'm into front projection. But that's another controversy!
Wednesday, December 26, 2007
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Kilgard it depends on the name brand you're going for. Some brands have better internal parts than others.
Personally I would recommend checking out cnet.com's pick for 2007. They have pretty detailed reviews, some with videos, and you can take it from there. I have the Pioneer 5080HD which was rated # 1 and I can tell you the image is fantastic. I used to have a Sharp 52" Aquos LCD but the Pioneer is WAY better, especially with the blacks. Oh ya it's only 1080i but believe me that's not a handicap on this thing.
Like Skyhawk mentioned before me, quality over quantity my friend
Here's the link to get you started...
http://reviews.cnet.com/4370-6485_7-168-101.html?tag=dvdtown-20
[Post edited by Falcon01 on Dec 26, 2007]
Personally I would recommend checking out cnet.com's pick for 2007. They have pretty detailed reviews, some with videos, and you can take it from there. I have the Pioneer 5080HD which was rated # 1 and I can tell you the image is fantastic. I used to have a Sharp 52" Aquos LCD but the Pioneer is WAY better, especially with the blacks. Oh ya it's only 1080i but believe me that's not a handicap on this thing.
Like Skyhawk mentioned before me, quality over quantity my friend
Here's the link to get you started...
http://reviews.cnet.com/4370-6485_7-168-101.html?tag=dvdtown-20
[Post edited by Falcon01 on Dec 26, 2007]
Wednesday, December 26, 2007
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Yeah always check reviews and preferable buy from Brands you know. I have a 720P 42 inch Toshiba DLP that I love. At the time I bought I could've got a 1080P LCD at the same price. Except the LCD was some brand named Proscan I never heard of. Also always remember TVs in the stores are set extra bright because of the lights and you will most likely not have them set that way at home.
Wednesday, December 26, 2007
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It isn't the size mate, it's how you use it.
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Thursday, December 27, 2007
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Thursday, December 27, 2007
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Hi Kilgard,
In that price range, why not go for both size AND quality? If you can dim your viewing room, or not spend much to make it dimmable, strongly consider front projection as Skyhawk and myself use. It's simply a joy to watch movies as they were meant to be watched, on a big screen. In the price range you have specified, one can purchase the latest in LCD projection technology which exceeds DLP quality in that price range, producing an amazing 1080p picture at say 120 inches. Models to consider would be the new Epson Cinema 1080 UB, Panasonic AE2000, and Mitsubishi HC6000. Outstanding color and contrast, your friends are going to want to watch movies at your home with a front projection setup!! It seems alot of folks are at 50-60in in their homes these days but once they come over and see a movie on your front projection, they start to wish they would have gone that route. At least that's been my experience. :-) And when your done viewing, simply put the screen back up and enjoy your wall space, hang a picture or whatever. No huge box eating up floor and wall space.
In that price range, why not go for both size AND quality? If you can dim your viewing room, or not spend much to make it dimmable, strongly consider front projection as Skyhawk and myself use. It's simply a joy to watch movies as they were meant to be watched, on a big screen. In the price range you have specified, one can purchase the latest in LCD projection technology which exceeds DLP quality in that price range, producing an amazing 1080p picture at say 120 inches. Models to consider would be the new Epson Cinema 1080 UB, Panasonic AE2000, and Mitsubishi HC6000. Outstanding color and contrast, your friends are going to want to watch movies at your home with a front projection setup!! It seems alot of folks are at 50-60in in their homes these days but once they come over and see a movie on your front projection, they start to wish they would have gone that route. At least that's been my experience. :-) And when your done viewing, simply put the screen back up and enjoy your wall space, hang a picture or whatever. No huge box eating up floor and wall space.
Thursday, December 27, 2007
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Yes, that amount of money should easily get you quality and size.
A LCD or Plasma in that price range should be at least:
- 46"
- 1080P (The plasma may be 720P in native resolution)
- 24P
- Known Quality Brand
And yes, I would go for around 50/52" and get quality instead of the 60"
If you want to go projector (which is really cool ) you will need to have a dedicated room. In my experience that is the only way to get a great setup without destroying your living room. Also, consider if you want to use it for things other than films. Sports like NFL are often best enjoyed in the living room in daylight with a cool beverage and chips which would work best with a LCD or Plasma.
[Post edited by Henning on Dec 27, 2007]
A LCD or Plasma in that price range should be at least:
- 46"
- 1080P (The plasma may be 720P in native resolution)
- 24P
- Known Quality Brand
And yes, I would go for around 50/52" and get quality instead of the 60"
If you want to go projector (which is really cool
) you will need to have a dedicated room. In my experience that is the only way to get a great setup without destroying your living room. Also, consider if you want to use it for things other than films. Sports like NFL are often best enjoyed in the living room in daylight with a cool beverage and chips which would work best with a LCD or Plasma.
[Post edited by Henning on Dec 27, 2007]
Friday, December 28, 2007
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Falcoln01 said -
I couldn't agree more - so true!! Having just purchased this same plasma earlier this month, I can reveal that everything on it looks awesome. Sitting 10 feet away, you don't get a feeling of missing something, just because the native resolution is 720p. The image processing/color/contrast on Pioneer Kuro plasmas are better than anything else (that I've ever seen, or available from other sets).
There is also no fear of "burn-in" (image retention) as long as you keep the Orbitor option on. The set also has an amazing anti-reflective screen and even during the daytime nothing coming thru a nearby window has been reflected on the TV.
Falcoln01, having come from a 32" Sharp Aquos LCD to this Pioneer plasma, I can state that the Pioneer KURO is so above the Aquos in picture quality, to the point that I will only buy plasma (again) from now on, and most likely another Pioneer one day - say in a larger screen size, 60 to 70 inches!
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray owner ~
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Dec 28, 2007]
Quote:
"I have the Pioneer 5080HD which was rated # 1 and I can tell you the image is fantastic. I used to have a Sharp 52" Aquos LCD but the Pioneer is WAY better, especially with the blacks."
I couldn't agree more - so true!! Having just purchased this same plasma earlier this month, I can reveal that everything on it looks awesome. Sitting 10 feet away, you don't get a feeling of missing something, just because the native resolution is 720p. The image processing/color/contrast on Pioneer Kuro plasmas are better than anything else (that I've ever seen, or available from other sets).
There is also no fear of "burn-in" (image retention) as long as you keep the Orbitor option on. The set also has an amazing anti-reflective screen and even during the daytime nothing coming thru a nearby window has been reflected on the TV.
Falcoln01, having come from a 32" Sharp Aquos LCD to this Pioneer plasma, I can state that the Pioneer KURO is so above the Aquos in picture quality, to the point that I will only buy plasma (again) from now on, and most likely another Pioneer one day - say in a larger screen size, 60 to 70 inches!
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray owner ~
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Dec 28, 2007]
Friday, December 28, 2007
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By the way,
FYI - from now until Dec 31, purchase a new Sony HDTV (LCD or SXRD R-Proj) from a SonyStyle store in the USA, and GET A FREE $499 PLAYSTATION 3! - INFO HERE
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray owner ~
FYI - from now until Dec 31, purchase a new Sony HDTV (LCD or SXRD R-Proj) from a SonyStyle store in the USA, and GET A FREE $499 PLAYSTATION 3! - INFO HERE
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray owner ~
Saturday, December 29, 2007
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Hendrix I was checking out futureshop.ca yesterday and they had the Pioneer 5080HD for $1,000 off down to $2475! I was blown away. I almost bought another one because it's such a bargain for this tv. I just checked today and now the price is up to $3267.32. What a steal when it was $2475.
After being annoyed by the blacks on the Sharp Aquos I checked out Samsung LCD's/Plasmas, Panasonics, Sony LCD's and whatever else. Seriously nothing came close to the Pioneer. Even now I have yet to see something with a better image and the best part is the settings are pretty much perfect out of the box unlike every other flat panel I have seen which needs so much adjusting. I never had to adjust colour or anything else except for Sharpness and Contrast a little bit but most people out there will probably be VERY happy with the factory settings.
After being annoyed by the blacks on the Sharp Aquos I checked out Samsung LCD's/Plasmas, Panasonics, Sony LCD's and whatever else. Seriously nothing came close to the Pioneer. Even now I have yet to see something with a better image and the best part is the settings are pretty much perfect out of the box unlike every other flat panel I have seen which needs so much adjusting. I never had to adjust colour or anything else except for Sharpness and Contrast a little bit but most people out there will probably be VERY happy with the factory settings.
Saturday, December 29, 2007
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Falcoln01 said -
SO TRUE. Just set your color temperature to the LOW setting, which tracks closest to the 6,500K standard. Also, most owners of this KURO plasma HDTV will choose the "Standard" A/V setting, which is excellent, but I prefer the USER setting when viewing cable TV/LaserDisc/VHS-Beta etc, since you can adjust EACH INPUT with the USER setting to your own specifications. The other A/V settings can be adjusted too, but not independent for each input (similar to most HDTVs).
Of course, when watching DVD, HD-DVD, or Blu-ray, I choose the MOVIE mode, and usually the "smooth" setting under the related PRO CINEMA viewing option, although for standard DVDs I believe that "standard" under Pro-C has the best quality image. And I fine-tune for every content source (movie or concert) the related contrast, brightness, sharpness, and occasionally the color setting.
By the way, the HD-DVD of Peter Jackson's KING KONG on this Pioneer KURO plasma is about the most incredible HD image I've ever seen! The Pioneer provides perfect 1080i deinterlacing before scaling to the set's native resolution of 720p/60hz. From 10 feet away (maximum viewing distance in my theater room), resolution-wise it looks identical to any of those Panasonic 1080p plasmas, but with the SUPERIOR color, contrast, and image processing that Pioneer is known for.
Of course, there are some great Blu-ray discs that look amazing on this plasma as well, such as the PIRATES movies, CARS, APOCALYPTO, GHOST RIDER, DESTINY'S CHILD IN ATLANTA, etc, along with many from the HD-DVD camp as well, and of course standard DVDs (with excellent transfers).
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray owner ~
Quote:
"After being annoyed by the blacks on the Sharp Aquos I checked out Samsung LCD's/Plasmas, Panasonics, Sony LCD's and whatever else. Seriously nothing came close to the Pioneer. Even now I have yet to see something with a better image and the best part is the settings are pretty much perfect out of the box unlike every other flat panel I have seen which needs so much adjusting. I never had to adjust colour or anything else except for Sharpness and Contrast a little bit but most people out there will probably be VERY happy with the factory settings."
SO TRUE. Just set your color temperature to the LOW setting, which tracks closest to the 6,500K standard. Also, most owners of this KURO plasma HDTV will choose the "Standard" A/V setting, which is excellent, but I prefer the USER setting when viewing cable TV/LaserDisc/VHS-Beta etc, since you can adjust EACH INPUT with the USER setting to your own specifications. The other A/V settings can be adjusted too, but not independent for each input (similar to most HDTVs).
Of course, when watching DVD, HD-DVD, or Blu-ray, I choose the MOVIE mode, and usually the "smooth" setting under the related PRO CINEMA viewing option, although for standard DVDs I believe that "standard" under Pro-C has the best quality image. And I fine-tune for every content source (movie or concert) the related contrast, brightness, sharpness, and occasionally the color setting.
By the way, the HD-DVD of Peter Jackson's KING KONG on this Pioneer KURO plasma is about the most incredible HD image I've ever seen! The Pioneer provides perfect 1080i deinterlacing before scaling to the set's native resolution of 720p/60hz. From 10 feet away (maximum viewing distance in my theater room), resolution-wise it looks identical to any of those Panasonic 1080p plasmas, but with the SUPERIOR color, contrast, and image processing that Pioneer is known for.
Of course, there are some great Blu-ray discs that look amazing on this plasma as well, such as the PIRATES movies, CARS, APOCALYPTO, GHOST RIDER, DESTINY'S CHILD IN ATLANTA, etc, along with many from the HD-DVD camp as well, and of course standard DVDs (with excellent transfers).
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray owner ~
Saturday, December 29, 2007
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Well, I own all of those LDs, except On the Waterfront.
See, as a large collector of LaserDiscs (well over 2000), I would own so many that are offered in large bulk packages regularly on eBay, and Craig's List etc. My interest (for LD) these days only lies in tracking down a very-hard-to-find title, whether a movie edition (or special edition), or a music video or live concert title.
In regard to just those 4 titles (in your link above) - APOCALYPSE NOW, SCARFACE, JURASSIC PARK: The Lost World, and ON THE WATERFRONT, my LD/DVD collection of these consists of:
APOCALYPSE NOW - Full Frame 2.0 LD, Widescreen 2.0 LD, Widescreen DD 5.1 LD, and ALL 3 standard 5.1 DVD releases (including the Complete Dossier ed. I picked up for just $10 at BBuy earlier this year).
SCARFACE - Widescreen 2.0 LD, Widescreen 2.0 LD in the Signature Collection Box Set, and the 2nd SpEd 5.1 DVD release (deluxe edition w/many of the usual bonuses).
J.Park LOST WORLD - Widescreen DD 5.1 LD, Widescreen DTS 5.1 LD, Widescreen DD 5.1 DVD (along w/Jurassic Park itself in Widescreen DTS 5.1 LD, Widescreen DD 5.1 LD, and the Widescreen 2.0 CAV LD Box Set too) - as it is, I don't yet own the first J.P movie on DVD! (just the 3 LD editions)
ON THE WATERFRONT - never owned this one, just rented a long time ago
Most of these I never paid retail (of course), and received many titles once the LaserDisc format started waning in the late '90s, when others sold their collections, although I had already been a big LD collector befor this time. I also sold a few hundred titles between 1999 to 2002, so as to receive a premium ($$) on some titles (rare etc), as well as passing on to other LD fans many discs that I simply didn't want any more in my collection.
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Dec 29, 2007]
See, as a large collector of LaserDiscs (well over 2000), I would own so many that are offered in large bulk packages regularly on eBay, and Craig's List etc. My interest (for LD) these days only lies in tracking down a very-hard-to-find title, whether a movie edition (or special edition), or a music video or live concert title.
In regard to just those 4 titles (in your link above) - APOCALYPSE NOW, SCARFACE, JURASSIC PARK: The Lost World, and ON THE WATERFRONT, my LD/DVD collection of these consists of:
APOCALYPSE NOW - Full Frame 2.0 LD, Widescreen 2.0 LD, Widescreen DD 5.1 LD, and ALL 3 standard 5.1 DVD releases (including the Complete Dossier ed. I picked up for just $10 at BBuy earlier this year).
SCARFACE - Widescreen 2.0 LD, Widescreen 2.0 LD in the Signature Collection Box Set, and the 2nd SpEd 5.1 DVD release (deluxe edition w/many of the usual bonuses).
J.Park LOST WORLD - Widescreen DD 5.1 LD, Widescreen DTS 5.1 LD, Widescreen DD 5.1 DVD (along w/Jurassic Park itself in Widescreen DTS 5.1 LD, Widescreen DD 5.1 LD, and the Widescreen 2.0 CAV LD Box Set too) - as it is, I don't yet own the first J.P movie on DVD! (just the 3 LD editions)
ON THE WATERFRONT - never owned this one, just rented a long time ago
Most of these I never paid retail (of course), and received many titles once the LaserDisc format started waning in the late '90s, when others sold their collections, although I had already been a big LD collector befor this time. I also sold a few hundred titles between 1999 to 2002, so as to receive a premium ($$) on some titles (rare etc), as well as passing on to other LD fans many discs that I simply didn't want any more in my collection.
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Dec 29, 2007]
