Re: Terminator 3 has Blu problems

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how does PiP cause a studio to include an HD DVD instead of a Blu-ray in their Blu-ray box set?

I dont think warner cares too much. lol. they making movie from both sides... doing what they please. and screwin up here and there. lol

Well as far as including the HD DVD version of the movie in a bluray box set, well there's no excuse for that. As for the 1080i thing...it could have been human error or maybe it was the only way they could fit two copies of the movies on the same 25GB bluray disk. Remember that originally the only way to make PIP work on a bluray disk was to copy the movie twice on the same disk hence The Decent needing a 50GB bluray disk in order to have PIP.

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As for the 1080i thing...it could have been human error or maybe it was the only way they could fit two copies of the movies on the same 25GB bluray disk.

T3 on Blu-ray was released with 1080i on a 50GB disk - not 25. 1080p is also printed on the cover. All newer Blu-ray releases are on 50GB disks (almost without exception), regardless of any PiP implementation. Warner has already acknowledged this as a mistake on their part, and will be issuing a disk replacement program for affected buyers in the near future.

That should clarify the situation for you.

Yes it did

So I was checking out the reviews for the Panasonic DMP-BD30K bluray player (the only one that is profile 1.1 compliant other than the PS3) and I noticed this little gem at cnet.com "no Ethernet jack for firmware upgrades or future interactive content."

http://reviews.cnet.com/video-players-and-recorders/panasonic-dmp-bd30k/4505-6463_7-32730548.html

Then I read this about the PS3 "For whatever reason, the PS3 does not support bitstream output -- no, not even TrueHD -- only PCM, and since there's no DTS HD decoder built in, that leaves out one of the hottest new codecs."

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/02/why-the-ps3-isnt-the-best-blu-ray-player/

The hits just keep on comin'.

By the way, my fav quote from the cnet.com review of the bluray player...

"While the DMP-BD30's Blu-ray image quality is excellent, we wouldn't say that it's necessarily better than other top-performing Blu-ray players. In fact, as along as the player is capable of properly performing 1080i deinterlacing, we've seen virtually no performance differences between Blu-ray players, including the PlayStation 3. Similarly, we've seen no difference in image quality between Blu-ray and HD DVD."

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Jan 2, 2008]

Skyhawk,


You are right about the 5th Element, and because SONY replaced these disc free of charge and shipped them by FedEX shows that at least they realized that the movie was a DUD as far as picture quality and made sure that their customers were not left with a bad taste in their mouth about Blu ray. And also as a result of SONY's efforts on remastering the 5th Element, it became the best Blu ray title that I've ever seen.

As far as the PS3, there is no better player (HDDVD or Blu ray) on the market. The thing is darn near future proof. It easely betters IMO the HDXA2 and it's cheaper.

Falcom i knew about the ps3 audio. but good to know the details, and about the i though would be better profile 1.1 player.

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As far as the PS3, there is no better player (HDDVD or Blu ray) on the market. The thing is darn near future proof. It easely betters IMO the HDXA2 and it's cheaper.

Tony how is the PS3 better than the HD XA2? Does it have the 5.1 analogue outputs like the XA2? Does it have Reon HQV chip for upconverting regular DVD's like the XA2 does? Let's not forget the PS3 has this little audio issue I mentioned above "the PS3 does not support bitstream output -- no, not even TrueHD -- only PCM, and since there's no DTS HD decoder built in, that leaves out one of the hottest new codecs."

The PS3 is a nice gaming machine, I totally agree BUT if you're using it primarily for movie watching, the HD XA2 is a much better machine.

By the way I have seen brand new XA2's on ebay for $400 but at the moment I can only see one on there and it's $580 U.S. for some reason.

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Jan 2, 2008]

Falcon quoted:

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Then I read this about the PS3 "For whatever reason, the PS3 does not support bitstream output -- no, not even TrueHD -- only PCM, and since there's no DTS HD decoder built in, that leaves out one of the hottest new codecs."

The PS3 does bitstream some codecs: including DD and DTS with various bitrates.

Here's a trick question: How many HD DVD players decode DTS HD MA? Zero of course. Both the PS3 and all high definition players (current HD DVD & Blu-ray) decode the DTS 1.5 lossy core from this codec only. Luckily Blu-ray normally includes a L-PCM/48kHz lossless uncompressed track when DTS HD MA is used.

Do realize that there are disadvantages to bitstreaming codecs out to your receiver and having the receiver decode them. The main one is loss of secondary audio, which rather negates the entire PiP experience when overlayed audio is featured.

With all the problems with The Warner release of Terminator 3 (Blu-Ray) and others. It now makes perfect sense to why The Matrix Trilogy has not been brought out for Blu-Ray. it would probably have problems for Blu-Ray.

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Tony how is the PS3 better than the HD XA2? Does it have the 5.1 analogue outputs like the XA2? Does it have Reon HQV chip for upconverting regular DVD's like the XA2 does?

The XA2 is a great hi-def media player, and upscales/deinterlaces standard DVDs better than even the PS3 (which comes close, but not quite). I just darn hope that Toshiba doesn't think they can discontinue this high-end stuff and replace it with the A35. Perhaps it may not make a difference to the J6P crowd, but please Toshiba, keep at least one new generation player with this kind of spec.