HD DVD camp issues press release
Monday, January 7, 2008
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This is all relevant regardless of Warner's decision. It's obvious the pricing is a big player in the (still on-going) format war.
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so they went from 41 to 65. Minus WB, New Line and HBO, thats still more than 60.
HD-DVD weakness has always been advertising, especially attacking Blu Ray. It makes you look like the better man, but you don't win that way anymore. People don't respect that. They respect power, force, intimidation. Look at our leaders for proof of that. If they had been more aggressive, they wouldn't be in this bind now. Maybe because cheap players didnt afford a lot of advertsing costs
HD-DVD weakness has always been advertising, especially attacking Blu Ray. It makes you look like the better man, but you don't win that way anymore. People don't respect that. They respect power, force, intimidation. Look at our leaders for proof of that. If they had been more aggressive, they wouldn't be in this bind now. Maybe because cheap players didnt afford a lot of advertsing costs
Monday, January 7, 2008
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Quote:
"The Bourne Ultimatum" on HD DVD outsold "Spiderman 3" on Blu-ray.
That maybe true but in Warner's case they were moving more Blu ray titles than HDDVD titles.
Monday, January 7, 2008
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JServo,
You're right, SONY attacked on all sides (no personal ones), out flanking HDDVD at every turn but price. Their advertising was nothing short of a blitz and a very good one. But the PS3 was literally a SONY Trojan Horse, a video game system with a Blu ray player inside.
You're right, SONY attacked on all sides (no personal ones), out flanking HDDVD at every turn but price. Their advertising was nothing short of a blitz and a very good one. But the PS3 was literally a SONY Trojan Horse, a video game system with a Blu ray player inside.
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I just think its premature to call it "game over".
The backing of MS/Gates is struly the wild card in all of this, the financial reserves are endless and May is quite a distance off. Gates/Toshiba were stung with a very embarrassing situation and I find it difficult to imagine they will sit by and watch HD DVD fold the tent. Even if Gates true goal is Downloadable Media I think he might take one last large swipe at Sony and cause them some severe financial pain and leave a "scar" on Sony as a reminder for the future.
The backing of MS/Gates is struly the wild card in all of this, the financial reserves are endless and May is quite a distance off. Gates/Toshiba were stung with a very embarrassing situation and I find it difficult to imagine they will sit by and watch HD DVD fold the tent. Even if Gates true goal is Downloadable Media I think he might take one last large swipe at Sony and cause them some severe financial pain and leave a "scar" on Sony as a reminder for the future.
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Microsoft on downloads only would be sill this early. downloads arent the same quality yet, and wont give them money like HDi.
Toshiba and MS are probably deciding what to do. Im sure they would hurt if could but how? it really wasent they fault waner decided pro blu. plus they are hurting the ps3 with the 360 already. if people buy the ps3 to play movies, sure sales numbers keep going up, but sony makes no money in games and losse moeny per console. I sure wont buy any games on ps3, i ment i have no plans at all whatsoever. all my first have 360 and im extremely happy with it /on Live /media center/ etc.
Toshiba and MS are probably deciding what to do. Im sure they would hurt if could but how? it really wasent they fault waner decided pro blu. plus they are hurting the ps3 with the 360 already. if people buy the ps3 to play movies, sure sales numbers keep going up, but sony makes no money in games and losse moeny per console. I sure wont buy any games on ps3, i ment i have no plans at all whatsoever. all my first have 360 and im extremely happy with it /on Live /media center/ etc.
Monday, January 7, 2008
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I think its been pretty well demonstrated that the studios can be bought. Given that approach and dependent upon Gates, three or four big checks to Warner, Disney, Fox etc might swing the pendulum once again. Again, May is a long ways away.
There is also a possibility of a last ditch marketing efforts wherein the consumer purchases X amount of Universal and Paramount discs (combos in all liklihood) and receive an HD DVD player.
Really, they have absolutely nothing to lose at this point, machines can sit unsold in warehouses or blown out in one last big push.
Teams that have nothing to lose usually end up being underestimated so at the very least it will be interesting to see the strategy going forward: fight to the finish or raise the white flag.
There is also a possibility of a last ditch marketing efforts wherein the consumer purchases X amount of Universal and Paramount discs (combos in all liklihood) and receive an HD DVD player.
Really, they have absolutely nothing to lose at this point, machines can sit unsold in warehouses or blown out in one last big push.
Teams that have nothing to lose usually end up being underestimated so at the very least it will be interesting to see the strategy going forward: fight to the finish or raise the white flag.
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This press release is kinda sad ... a very transparent (or hollow) like Henning says.
HD DVD had long spoke of attach rates as meaning so much, and now they say it's 2:1? Didn't it used to be 4:1? ... and Blu-ray standalones outsold HD DVD standalones (this doesn't even include PS3s).
The studio support comment is just silly at this point ... with Warner Bros. going Blu-ray exclusive and all.
I know HD DVD needs to pretend everything's ok for now ... but as Universal goes neutral and/or Blu-ray exclusive soon, and Paramount ends their contract (at the latest) early in 2009, things are really looking bleak for the future of HD DVD.
[Post edited by funstuff72 on Jan 7, 2008]
HD DVD had long spoke of attach rates as meaning so much, and now they say it's 2:1? Didn't it used to be 4:1? ... and Blu-ray standalones outsold HD DVD standalones (this doesn't even include PS3s).
The studio support comment is just silly at this point ... with Warner Bros. going Blu-ray exclusive and all.
I know HD DVD needs to pretend everything's ok for now ... but as Universal goes neutral and/or Blu-ray exclusive soon, and Paramount ends their contract (at the latest) early in 2009, things are really looking bleak for the future of HD DVD.
[Post edited by funstuff72 on Jan 7, 2008]
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Superdynamite, I mean fun stuff, where does it say bluray standalones outsold HD DVD stand alones? Nowhere. Why? Cause it didn't happen. HD DVD stand alones outsold bluray players.
As for your Universal is going neutral, please post a link to this information. Otherwise you're spreading misinformation as usual.
As for your Universal is going neutral, please post a link to this information. Otherwise you're spreading misinformation as usual.
Monday, January 7, 2008
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Blu-ray Standalone's Outsold HD DVD players in December despite $99 Sale:
http://www.n4g.com/News-97212.aspx
http://www.n4g.com/News-97212.aspx
