Re: Universal dropping HD DVD exclusivity
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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Love Hendrix! said -
Who said anything about streaming? I said downloading. Once you purchase and download a movie, you keep it on your hard drive forever. You don't have to "re-download" it again.
If effort is your concern...my downloaded movies are actually less effort than your Blu-ray disks. If you want to watch a different movie, you have to get off the couch and change the disks out, then wait several minutes for the player to boot up I might add. All my movies are on a hard drive. I don't even have to get up! Just grab the remote, select which one I want to play...done!
As for the download speed...Comcast recently announced plans to roll out 160 million bps Internet access as early as 2009. At that speed you'd be able to download an entire HD movie in 4 minutes.
Viruses from a movie downloaded from a major studio? Really, you're reaching now.
Once you lose your objectivity, your opinion no longer matters.
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Then there is the matter of simply re-loading a disc for playback, vs the effort involved in repeated acts of streaming/downloading.
Who said anything about streaming? I said downloading. Once you purchase and download a movie, you keep it on your hard drive forever. You don't have to "re-download" it again.
If effort is your concern...my downloaded movies are actually less effort than your Blu-ray disks. If you want to watch a different movie, you have to get off the couch and change the disks out, then wait several minutes for the player to boot up I might add.
All my movies are on a hard drive. I don't even have to get up! Just grab the remote, select which one I want to play...done!As for the download speed...Comcast recently announced plans to roll out 160 million bps Internet access as early as 2009. At that speed you'd be able to download an entire HD movie in 4 minutes.
Viruses from a movie downloaded from a major studio? Really, you're reaching now.
Once you lose your objectivity, your opinion no longer matters.
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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Correct on the HD movie 'downloads'. Streaming are for none-hd content. HD downloads WILL BE FAST...
Hidef movies via download service at speedy service, by 2009, will be the main threat to the Hidef platter.
It may just be the successor to DVD. Better yet, DVD stays (because of WORLDWIDE acceptance), Hidef platter dies.... Why? Because the HIDEF DOWNLOAD service will be FULLY AVAILABLE to everyone by 2009. Hidef platter will still STRUGGLE for a marketshare, considering its retail cost of at least $300 per player.
[Post edited by xplaytendo on Jan 10, 2008]
Hidef movies via download service at speedy service, by 2009, will be the main threat to the Hidef platter.
It may just be the successor to DVD. Better yet, DVD stays (because of WORLDWIDE acceptance), Hidef platter dies.... Why? Because the HIDEF DOWNLOAD service will be FULLY AVAILABLE to everyone by 2009. Hidef platter will still STRUGGLE for a marketshare, considering its retail cost of at least $300 per player.
[Post edited by xplaytendo on Jan 10, 2008]
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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nhall72... one thing I've learned about computer-related files, is that they can become "fragmented", and less "stable" over time, etc. I personally will always prefer a top-quality hard disk combined with a premium HD player, than an HD computer or Media Center PC setup. Nor would I enjoy making necessary backups of downloads, if that even becomes legally allowed (probably not - HDCP requirement).
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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Ummm...files do not get less "stable" over time. That's by far the funniest thing I've ever seen posted on this forum and I've seen some pretty funny things.
I've got files that are more than 10 years old! It would appear you don't know much about how digital media works.
However, I will admit some people are better at maintaining their computers than others and managing your entire movie collection in a computer does require some basic computer skills. But wow...once you learn how to use a computer, it's amazingly convenient.
Once you lose your objectivity, your opinion no longer matters.
I've got files that are more than 10 years old! It would appear you don't know much about how digital media works.
However, I will admit some people are better at maintaining their computers than others and managing your entire movie collection in a computer does require some basic computer skills. But wow...once you learn how to use a computer, it's amazingly convenient.
Once you lose your objectivity, your opinion no longer matters.
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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I've got files that are more than 10 years old! It would appear you don't know much about how digital media works.
Wow, how big is the drive? 100 megs?
Downloading with a computer will never be a mainstream alternative to HD DVD or Blu-ray. VOD yes, but download to your computer HD, hooked up to your TV in your livingroom? Yeah... sure
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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nhall72 said -
They don't huh - never? So, you don't believe it when people have programs (made of gobs of files) that can eventually fail and crash, and then might require a new "reload" of the program (via CD or download). Trust me, it's not very "funny", and because of various instability of files, combined with the OS (like Windows), eventually you can have file(s) that gets contaminated, fragmented, or just plain "disappears", or something similar. Then you have to reload...
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~
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"Ummm...files do not get less "stable" over time. That's by far the funniest thing I've ever seen posted on this forum and I've seen some pretty funny things."
They don't huh - never? So, you don't believe it when people have programs (made of gobs of files) that can eventually fail and crash, and then might require a new "reload" of the program (via CD or download). Trust me, it's not very "funny", and because of various instability of files, combined with the OS (like Windows), eventually you can have file(s) that gets contaminated, fragmented, or just plain "disappears", or something similar. Then you have to reload...
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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Skyhawk said -
No, 1 terabyte. when I build a new computer I copy my files over. Pretty basic thing really.
Actually, it's getting pretty easy to network your TV with a computer. Windows Media Center is one way to do it...there are others if you're not into the whole Microsoft thing.
Network aware TVs are in the works and if I've learned one thing about computers over the last 30 years it's this...Never under estimate what will become mainstream when it comes to computers. If you'd told me in 1985 that I'd one day have a multi-core computer with a terabyte of disk storage sitting on my desk, I would have been very skeptical. Now...my father has one too.
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Wow, how big is the drive? 100 megs?
No, 1 terabyte. when I build a new computer I copy my files over. Pretty basic thing really.
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Downloading with a computer will never be a mainstream alternative to HD DVD or Blu-ray. VOD yes, but download to your computer HD, hooked up to your TV in your livingroom? Yeah... sure
Actually, it's getting pretty easy to network your TV with a computer. Windows Media Center is one way to do it...there are others if you're not into the whole Microsoft thing.
Network aware TVs are in the works and if I've learned one thing about computers over the last 30 years it's this...Never under estimate what will become mainstream when it comes to computers. If you'd told me in 1985 that I'd one day have a multi-core computer with a terabyte of disk storage sitting on my desk, I would have been very skeptical. Now...my father has one too.
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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Love Hendrix! said-
That's correct. Never.
The integrity of digital data does not degrade as a function of time. But as I said, some people are better at maintaining their computers than others.
I have seen what your talking about though. In most cases it was caused by surfing/downloading from Internet sites of, um...ill repute. My advice would be to either lay off the porn sites, or make damn sure your computer is VERY secure.
Don't be afraid of your computer. Computers are actually very reliable if maintained properly. In 30 years I think I've seen one true hard drive crash and I've never lost anything important. Never.
[Post edited by nhall72 on Jan 11, 2008]
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They don't huh - never? So, you don't believe it when people have programs (made of gobs of files) that can eventually fail and crash, and then might require a new "reload" of the program (via CD or download).
That's correct. Never.
The integrity of digital data does not degrade as a function of time. But as I said, some people are better at maintaining their computers than others.
I have seen what your talking about though. In most cases it was caused by surfing/downloading from Internet sites of, um...ill repute. My advice would be to either lay off the porn sites, or make damn sure your computer is VERY secure.
Don't be afraid of your computer. Computers are actually very reliable if maintained properly. In 30 years I think I've seen one true hard drive crash and I've never lost anything important. Never.
[Post edited by nhall72 on Jan 11, 2008]
Thursday, January 10, 2008
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Lucky you nhall72! And we just have to agree to disagree here about computer reliability, Windows stability, and long-lasting hard drives (hehe - that's a good one).
Friday, January 11, 2008
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The integrity of digital data does not degrade as a function of time. But as I said, some people are better at maintaining their computers than others.
Well guess where that digital data is stored? On physical, magnetic media. Anything physical has a chance of getting damaged. Also, googling around I found that typical failure rates of hard-drives have been found to be in the single percentages - which is not that low really. Here's an abstract from a Carnegie Mellon paper:
"We find that in the field, annual disk replacement rates typically exceed 1%, with 2-4% common and up to 13% observed in some systems."
"We also find evidence, based on records of disk replacements in the field that failure rate is not constant with age, and that, rather than a significant infant mortality effect, we see a significant early onset of wear-out degradation."
[source: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bianca/fast07.pdf]
Interesting tidbit: Did you know that Lowry Digital (well, DTS now that they've been bought) "refresh" their archived hdd copies of movies like every 2 years to make sure that the data on the hdds are okay?
