Beating A Dead Horse Blue & Red

Exactly how many different topics on the exact same argument have to be started? Or is it that people are too lazy to search the forum database? This is way beyond beating a dead horse.

Tim, have you kept count? How many topics on HDDVD vs. Blu Ray are there now? I lost count a long time ago.

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[Post edited by tony1569 on Jan 11, 2008]

I was thinking of that Gif when I entered this thread.

i though of the Tim classic.

Tony,

Best pic so far this year! LOL!!!

My sentiments exactly.

Its sad the message boards have gotten so stagnant.



- Josh

You guys are right...it is beating a dead horse. However, the reason there are so many different posts is because this format war is the single biggest issue in home theatre in the last 25 years. Whoever wins, be it Blu or HD, that format will be around for at least the next 15 years...there is a lot to be gained, and lost for both camps.

It's the ONLY topic to discuss, really. So much so, that I was even thinking about starting a thread about it: "HD DVD or Blu-ray: Which Is Really Better?"

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It's the ONLY topic to discuss, really. So much so, that I was even thinking about starting a thread about it: "HD DVD or Blu-ray: Which Is Really Better?"

Thank You, for not starting that thread. It would've been a 30 pager of usless bickering.

I'll admit that the format war is an important "cutting edge" issue in home theater entertainment, however, do you honestly think its going to affect standard definition DVD? Even if the victor of this war sticks around for 15 years, standard definition DVD will be right there next to it. Until the victor's price, in both player AND movie, matches that of standard definition DVD pricing, people will not convert. As many people as have been reported to have bought Blu Ray or HDDVD, if you took the entire number of both formats bought to date, you'd have a far greater number of people that cannot afford either format, and currently own standard definition players and DVD collections.

Thats why arguing about a passing technology jump is ridiculous. Look at VHS tapes and players. VHS came out in competition with Sony's "Beta-max" in the early 80's. VHS players (and tapes) are still being sold and used today. That was 2 home theater technology jumps ago. Technology is moving too quickly for the majority of people's wallets to keep up.



- Josh

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[Post edited by Nachtkriechen on Jan 13, 2008]

Natchkriecken (spelling??) I agree that technology is advancing quicker than people's wallets to a degree...
However, there are millions of people currently upgrading their TV's to flatscreen HD units, it's not unreasonable to assume they could also afford an HD DVD and/or Blu ray player.

I laughed for like 10 minutes at that picture thnx for sharing

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I'll admit that the format war is an important "cutting edge" issue in home theater entertainment, however, do you honestly think its going to affect standard definition DVD?

Well, in my case it already has. I haven't even considered watching standard DVDs since I got an HD DVD player. I have no use for them anymore. If I haven't seen a particular movie yet, and if I were to choose to watch it on standard DVD, it would be like spoiling the experience forever...you can watch a movie for the first time only once, and if I don't see it in the theater, I can assure you I won't waste my time viewing its 480-line equivalent.

DVD is nothing more than crystal clear VHS. Perhaps it might be a bit more, but it's no HD!

I consider standard definition DVD as already obsolete. When I see them in the store for $19.99 I've got to wonder if people actually buy these things. I already wonder why the new DVD releases don't start out at the Dollar Tree store. I'm puzzled.

I'll have to assume that I'm not the only one with this philosophy either.

Bosshog7,

As I mentioned in my earlier post, regardless of how many people have bought either format, there are a far greater number that haven't, that are still buying standard definition DVDs. While it's good that HDTVs are getting cheaper all the time, just because someone has bought an HDTV doesn't mean that they'll imediately go out and buy one of the HD format DVD players. As biassed as you may be to one format or the other, there are PLENTY of people out there sitting on the fence, waiting for one side or the other to prevail before they take the plunge.


JPSofCA,

Obviously you're not the only one that sees SDDVD obsolete, and in some respects, I agree, but, that doesn't mean that I'm going to suddenly replace all 500 of my SDDVDs. Once the war is over, I'll probably replace some of my SDDVDs that merit it, but, the vast majority of them I won't. It's just ridiculous to throw money away like that, especially when upconverted SDDVDs look quite nice.



- Josh

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...I agree, but, that doesn't mean that I'm going to suddenly replace all 500 of my SDDVDs.

Oh, I agree. I've got upwards of 30 standard DVDs - some "must-haves" - that I won't just go out and replace either.

But I do love them HDs!

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Well, in my case it already has. I haven't even considered watching standard DVDs since I got an HD DVD player. I have no use for them anymore. If I haven't seen a particular movie yet, and if I were to choose to watch it on standard DVD, it would be like spoiling the experience forever...you can watch a movie for the first time only once, and if I don't see it in the theater, I can assure you I won't waste my time viewing its 480-line equivalent.

DVD is nothing more than crystal clear VHS. Perhaps it might be a bit more, but it's no HD!

I consider standard definition DVD as already obsolete. When I see them in the store for $19.99 I've got to wonder if people actually buy these things. I already wonder why the new DVD releases don't start out at the Dollar Tree store. I'm puzzled.

I'll have to assume that I'm not the only one with this philosophy either.

lol

I agree, but its such an issue that people are very passionate about it. I think it sucks it even exists. Its made people spiteful of each other. Where's the winner in that? Or it is just the way people are anymore?
Like, some attitudes of some people here riled me up, but I doubt they're much like that IRL. That, and I enjoy a good arguement. I have friends that also like George Bush and don't believe in evolution. While I think they're insane, I can still converse with them on what we have in common.

In the end, it doesnt matter who wins, as it'll never reach the heights that DVD has. It'll be the 8-track of home entertainment: A medium that has a much better presentation that exists when the current standard is good enough for the majority of people. Yeah, 8 tracks were owned by a lot of people, but hardly anyone replaced their vinyl/cassette collections for them

JPSofCA said -

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"DVD is nothing more than crystal clear VHS. Perhaps it might be a bit more, but it's no HD!

Well, it's certainly "more" than that.

Let's see a comparison...

VHS
-Analog Video / Analog Audio (w/Dolby Surround maximum)
-no 5.1 audio surround capability
-240 lines of resolution (S-Video)
-no Interactive capability (no chapter support, accessible SpEd extras, or ROM content)

DVD
-Digital Video / Digital Audio (w/PCM, DTS, Dolby Digital codecs)
-also has 5.1 audio surround (and 6.1 too)
-480 lines of resolution (w/artificial Upconversion to 720p/1080i/1080p) - Progressive scanning capable
-also has Interactive capabilities (access chapter support, SpEd extras, DVD-ROM extras)
-Component, DVI, and HDMI outputs

-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~