Re: Toshiba Deploys New HD DVD Marketing campaign

For the record, I would like to note that I am primarily a gamer that just happens to love movies and technology, so consequently I own both a PS3 and an XBOX 360 add-on along with the HD-A2.
I own movies in both formats and would like to reply to one of Mr. funstuff72's comments above.
Please note that my response also contains some sarcasm.

Funstuff72

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The Blu-ray spec is simply superior to HD DVD. There have been countless documented cases on numerous boards about HD DVDs getting scratched easily - it's a fact, they have less protection.

I suppose if the problem of easily scratched HD DVDs became really huge, that it would be absolutely impossible, nay, inconceivable that Toshiba could employ the same coating made by TDK:
Durabis. Similarly, I suppose, it would also be inconceivable that Toshiba could use the coating
developed by Verbatim for BD rewritables: ScratchGuard.

Thank you and please note the above use of the word "nay". It's really difficult to work that one into conversations these days, but I keep trying.

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[Post edited by gmelgartex on Jan 14, 2008]

Nay is a good word.

My goat used to say "Nay" all the time. Then somebody got my goat, and it was nay goat anymore.

And "it ain't over til it's over." --Yogi Berra

John

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Sony and Blu-Ray winning "the war" is not good for the consumer, and anyone who thinks so is incredibly naive. Sony winning outright means higher prices, and less urgency in fixing all of their hardware and software issues, because, if you don't like it, so what? What are you going to do about it? What everyone's goal should be is for both formats to co-exist, much like X-box, PS, and Wii do now.

I seriously will just never understand this thinking. The home video industry and the gaming industry are simply not the same thing. People don't want opposing formats. They want to be able to go to the store, buy a movie, and watch it anywhere they feel like. Gamers don't care about multiple formats because the gaming community is used to it. Movie watchers are not. They're used to DVD and VHS before it. Where everyone is on the same format page. Isn't over two years of a format war long enough to drive down prices (down from a few thousand to a couple hundred for a player)? Prices are lower now online for HDM than they are for standard DVD in some cases! And speaking of SD DVD, that's a unified format. Have we seen player and software prices go through the roof since all the studios agreed to release on it? No, quite the contrary. One format means a clear choice which equates to more sales which equates to more money for the studios selling in bulk at lower prices. How people can look at the evolution of standard DVD and STILL think the HDM format war is a GOOD thing and that everything's just going to skyrocket and go to hell with Sony in charge if we settle on one format doesn't remember recent history very well. And they don't remember the death of high-resolution audio, either. It can and will happen to high-definition film as well if this doesn't stop. And it's been long enough.

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[Post edited by CroweDawg1121 on Jan 15, 2008]

Crowedog you're forgetting that originally Sony, Fox and Disney we're not supporting DVD. Why? Cause they were supporting another format called DIVX. Here were are again and the DVD consortium has approved HD DVD as the next generation format but Sony is not having it. Why? Because they want a bigger slice of the pie, as in royalties and whatever else they can make money on. That has been the biggest problem with everyone, myself included. I personally would love a working unified format but not if it's controlled by Sony.

Why be afraid of good old Free Market competition. I guess we are buying more and more that monopolies are good for the consumers. One big company with a lot of power being better than many smaller companies. I am for making money, and a good return on investment but the best way to control higher than normal amounts of corporate profit is through competition. Companies want to maximize profit and competition help keep profits in check, creates efficiencies and increases productivity. It also provides choice for the benefit of consumers.
At this point, It looks like an uphill battle for the HD DVD camp, but if both formats are able to make it to the mainstream market, there will be enough profits here and in the global market for both camps.

Perfectblue I agree but bluray won't have it. They don't want two formats. They want to control all of it and that's the problem.

No, I am not forgetting DivX. DivX was indeed instrumental in getting DVD pricing down at the onset. My point is that now that DVD IS the standard, it hasn't cause prices to skyrocket. Demand for product and consumer certainty have allowed for lower pirced hardware and software alike. I simply don't know why so many see Sony as the bad guys here when they're only trying to push their own format. Toshiba's doing the exact same thing - and, rightfully, should be. But Universal and Paramount should at least attempt to appear as though they give a crap about the people buying their products and at least go neutral. We can all talk circles around this forever, but the fact is that neither of these formats have any chance of surviving if customer confusion is allowed to continue indefinitely. Just compare where HDM is as compared to SDM if you doubt that for one second. The average buyer just doesn't want to get involved in this format war crap or risk wasting their money on something potentially obsolete in a few months. Blu-ray has the clear and decisive advantage here at this stage in the game and find it shameful that this war should be perpetuated by companies that put the success of one format or another ahead of HDM as a whole. If you want to talk about Sony wanting a bigger slice of the pie, then how about talking about Toshiba prolonging a virtually foregone conclusion simply to make a few more short-term dollars at the potential expense of both hi-def formats. Neither company is above this, people. Sony's not Satan in all this.

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[Post edited by CroweDawg1121 on Jan 15, 2008]

If Sony wins I hope Toshiba sells the factorys they have building the Sony PS3 chips to some horrible company that goes bankrupt. Down with arrogance!

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My goat used to say "Nay" all the time. Then somebody got my goat, and it was nay goat anymore.

And "it ain't over til it's over." --Yogi Berra

John

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
guys, on my way to pick up a ps3! nooooooooooooooooo or maybe nayyyyyyy?