Re: Toshiba Deploys New HD DVD Marketing campaign

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My point is that now that DVD IS the standard, it hasn't cause prices to skyrocket.

Thats because DVD is handled by the DVD Consortium as a whole. If Sony had succeeded with it's support of DIVX things would be different but thankfully DVD won and Sony never really got control of it.

Again if bluray wins, make no mistake that Sony is the principle backer. Don't expect the pricing structure of bluray to follow that of DVD. Sony will squeeze every penny they can get.

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Jan 15, 2008]

Falcon01,

You are simply telling lies at this point to support your losing format.

Show me 1 credible news source that says Warner took money to go Blu-ray exclusive. You can't so it will be fun to see you try.

Blu-ray movies will be able to play on all Blu-ray players, sure some features might not work on some of the older players but people don't care about that. Like I said, people just want to watch their movies. The extra features are a distant second.

As for the 51 GB discs, you are funny. Where are those? Where are the movies on them. HA - it's a little thing called vaporware that if ever sees the light of day it will be too little too late. And talk about an incomplete format ... it has been 2 years that HD DVD has had an inferior size per layer format ... and guess what ... it's still is true now ... the HD DVD spec simply does not match the size spec of Blu-ray no matter how many layers.

If anyone is misleading people it is you, trolling these forums and telling lies about bribes that never took place. Paramount took a bribe to go HD DVD back in summer of 2007, Warner Bros. DID NOT take a bribe to go Blu-ray exclusive at the start of 2008. I know it's hard to accept that a big company might make a business move based on logic and reasoning rather then on money, but all reputable news sources tell this to be the fact in this case.

I bought an HD DVD player shortly before the Warner Brothers announcement. Sure it may not be great for HD DVD customers, but hey it could be alot worse. After all Warner just pissed off over 1 million HD DVD owners with their announcement: http://www.thelookandsoundofperfect.com/...

I encourage all HD DVD supporters to come visit this site : http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=45867

and join our cause to help save HD DVD. If the HD DVD supporters stand closer united it allows their voice to be heard more, than if they each went their own way.

[Post edited by effmaster on Jan 15, 2008]

Funstuff wrote:

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Show me 1 credible news source that says Warner took money to go Blu-ray exclusive. You can't so it will be fun to see you try.

Here ya go...

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According to a trusted source that was close to the negotiations, Warner and FOX were working on a deal to go Exclusive to HD DVD as recent as last week. Our source tells us that Warner was only willing to go to HD DVD if FOX would go with them. Their thinking was if they just went to HD DVD by themselves, it would not end the format war. Early this week FOX was paid an undisclosed amount to remain exclusive to Blu-ray. With the FOX deal falling through, Warner had no choice but to accept the BDA’s $500 Million offer to go Blu-ray exclusive.

http://formatwarcentral.com/index.php/2008/01/04/warner-swayed-by-500-million-from-the-bda

Funstuff wrote:

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sure some features might not work on some of the older players but people don't care about that.

Everyone at my work just laughed at you. Thanks for the laugh

Funstuff wrote:

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As for the 51 GB discs, you are funny. Where are those? Where are the movies on them. HA - it's a little thing called vaporware that if ever sees the light of day it will be too little too late. And talk about an incomplete format ... it has been 2 years that HD DVD has had an inferior size per layer format

So the fact that HD DVD has fit 1080P/24 high definition movies with HD audio AND!! interactive features with web capabilities ALL ON A 30GB disk makes it inferior? Funstuff, you're losing it.

Funstuff wrote:

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I know it's hard to accept that a big company might make a business move based on logic and reasoning rather then on money

It's been clearly stated that Warner was going to go HD DVD exclsuvie BEFORE bluray paid them the $500 million.

I got you back Falc.

by the way, Im not the only one right? i mean, regardless of the account name, the posting style is the same.

Falcon01, you obviously don't understand what "credible" means.

Warner Bros. has officially on record as say there was no payoff. All of the reputable news sources have reported the same - THERE WAS NO PAYOFF.

Do you understand logic yourself? Do you? Can you see why Warner Bros. would go Blu-ray exclusive? Why they would choose to only produce discs on the format with the superior specs, support, and sales? Is this that hard for you to understand?

If you and your imaginary friends don't understand how people care more about being able to watch the movie they want then have some misc features then you have made everyone reading this thread laugh.

Do you understand what a spec is? Do you understand that the number 50 > 30? Please tell me you do.

Please stop telling lies, it just gives further evidence that HD DVD is failing, just like the current firesales to clear inventory before HD DVD runs up its white flag.

Please, could we stop calling other people liars, even though it seems a favorite term to denigrate an opponent. The official story from WB is that they took no money. At the same time, people within the WB organization say otherwise. An Insider at the AVS Industry Insider's thread reported WB's pay-off the day WB announced their switch, and the Insider's report has never been disputed. So, take your pick.

John

Let's not forget that Warner Bros said in December (?) that they were going to continue to support BOTH formats so their credibility is not exactly the greatest.

BTW thanks Kuco

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Jan 15, 2008]

Unless Warner Bros. says otherwise, their official stance on this subject is that they took no payoffs.

Speculate all you want but this is the current state of facts, so pretending otherwise is indeed telling a lie. If you want to say you "think" they took a payoff then that is different. But please don't take unsubstantiated rumors as fact, or even worse, spread the falsities as fact.

Stop feeding a troll!

as kucoloco pointed out the list:

biblyboy
funstuff72
superdynamite
bublebathgirl

ALL TROLLS. All through the different threads, nothing but AGGRESSION from these posters. These are instigators that DOES NOT WANT DISCUSSION, but wants to let everyone know that their views, AND ONLY THEIR VIEWS, are the penultimate truth.

IGNORE THE TROLLS PLEASE, and you ignore their rants. It's hard to do, BUT IT'S AS EASY AS REPLYING TO ANOTHER POST.

[Post edited by xplaytendo on Jan 15, 2008]