Re: Paranount Announces HD DVD Slate for First Quarter
Thursday, January 17, 2008
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terror_beast, what you're forgetting is that VHS won because it was cheaper.
Thursday, January 17, 2008
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Nice post terror... 
Thursday, January 17, 2008
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Falcon, so why is Blu-ray winning now? I mean even the cheapest Blu-ray player (PS3) costs $399?
Thursday, January 17, 2008
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BRILLIANT 2nd Post terror! That summary/commentary is better than anything I've written yet about this format war - please continue to comment here on the threads!
Falcon01... it wasn't price that got VHS it's lead.
Some history... Both of the formats (Beta and VHS) had similar player prices in the early years, but VHS players were made and distributed by the MAJORITY of manufacturers [key strategic decision by JVC, who controlled and licensed the format], whereas Beta was mainly just Sony (for quite some time), before they got smart and allowed others to deliver Beta units.
By then it was too late. VHS had become better selling than Beta (again, due to player distribution and also now lower-priced players), but VHS ALSO featured longer recording time (of the blank cassettes), and ALSO more video rental stores stocked the VHS version of a movie (and those that stocked both format's titles started carrying only VHS, and Beta rental movies were hard to find).
By the mid-1980s, the lead by VHS started expanding rapidly, and poor Beta (by then SuperBeta Hi-Fi) was left at a distant second. VHS movies were finally lowered from the $59.95 to $79.95 norm, first to $39.95, then $29.95, and finally $24.95 by the early '90s. Paramount was the first major studio to lower the price of their VHS movies (around 1984-85), and others followed over the years.
So, consider the above info with today's BLU-RAY support! The MAJORITY of both hardware and software entertainment companies support it, and not HD-DVD... so CAN the distant 2nd place hi-def disc format survive while Blu-ray keeps growing faster? ...Stay tuned...
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Jan 17, 2008]
Falcon01... it wasn't price that got VHS it's lead.
Some history... Both of the formats (Beta and VHS) had similar player prices in the early years, but VHS players were made and distributed by the MAJORITY of manufacturers [key strategic decision by JVC, who controlled and licensed the format], whereas Beta was mainly just Sony (for quite some time), before they got smart and allowed others to deliver Beta units.
By then it was too late. VHS had become better selling than Beta (again, due to player distribution and also now lower-priced players), but VHS ALSO featured longer recording time (of the blank cassettes), and ALSO more video rental stores stocked the VHS version of a movie (and those that stocked both format's titles started carrying only VHS, and Beta rental movies were hard to find).
By the mid-1980s, the lead by VHS started expanding rapidly, and poor Beta (by then SuperBeta Hi-Fi) was left at a distant second. VHS movies were finally lowered from the $59.95 to $79.95 norm, first to $39.95, then $29.95, and finally $24.95 by the early '90s. Paramount was the first major studio to lower the price of their VHS movies (around 1984-85), and others followed over the years.
So, consider the above info with today's BLU-RAY support! The MAJORITY of both hardware and software entertainment companies support it, and not HD-DVD... so CAN the distant 2nd place hi-def disc format survive while Blu-ray keeps growing faster? ...Stay tuned...
-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Jan 17, 2008]
Thursday, January 17, 2008
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whoa...a BRD supporter with sensible arguements. Quick...someone make sure the sky isn't falling!
Skyhawk: Blu Ray sold better because the player was there for all those Sony fanboys. If it was left up to just you and your clan to buy standalones and ONLY standalones, I don't care how many studios were in that boat, it'd be decisively in HD-DVDs favor. BUt FUDster and spinsters did a damn good job painting HD-DVD as Microsoft and Blu Ray as Sony and thats all they needed to do. Sony fanboys are the WORST fanboys in the world. I'd rather be locked in a room with full on Trekkies for a day then an hour with a Sony loyalist.
Hey, it worked for Bush (liberals love terrorists!) why not making people buy unfinished HD formats.
Skyhawk: Blu Ray sold better because the player was there for all those Sony fanboys. If it was left up to just you and your clan to buy standalones and ONLY standalones, I don't care how many studios were in that boat, it'd be decisively in HD-DVDs favor. BUt FUDster and spinsters did a damn good job painting HD-DVD as Microsoft and Blu Ray as Sony and thats all they needed to do. Sony fanboys are the WORST fanboys in the world. I'd rather be locked in a room with full on Trekkies for a day then an hour with a Sony loyalist.
Hey, it worked for Bush (liberals love terrorists!) why not making people buy unfinished HD formats.
Thursday, January 17, 2008
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JServo, I'm not sure if you answered my question. Are you saying that Blu-ray has sold more media over the last 13 months than HD DVD because of "Sony fanboys"? So what you're saying is that the general trend in media sales is due to some religious like devotion that the American population has to the Sony Japanese company, rather than the Toshiba Japanese company? Am I getting this right?
Friday, January 18, 2008
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it's extremely simple why blu-ray outsold HD... it's because the millions of playstation 3s sold as video game units also played blu ray discs. if you owned an HD tv and ps3 why wouldn't you buy some discs. i would. i own the HD player and i love it. But lets be realistic. the playstation 3 is a powerful tool to selling the blu ray. it was a smart move by sony and it has worked for them so far. i however, unlike most of you, dont believe that the end of HD is here yet. i think HD can probably last at least another year and hopefully by then force people to lose exclusives. its wishful thinking but hey i'm rooting for it to happen.
Friday, January 18, 2008
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Quote:
Sony fanboys are the WORST fanboys in the world. I'd rather be locked in a room with full on Trekkies for a day then an hour with a Sony loyalist.
I have an offer....
Friday, January 18, 2008
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-Sony sold better because of agressive ads,
-EXCLUSIVE STUDIOS, most of the shoot em up and popular titles by sony and fox, that apeal to your consumers, that we may not like.....
-and other dirty lies, cheats. like the best buy and blockbuster favoritism.. that employess would do and lie since the beggining, when both formats were early in accomplishments.
you take all that, and you feed it to Fanboys, and what do you get?
-EXCLUSIVE STUDIOS, most of the shoot em up and popular titles by sony and fox, that apeal to your consumers, that we may not like.....
-and other dirty lies, cheats. like the best buy and blockbuster favoritism.. that employess would do and lie since the beggining, when both formats were early in accomplishments.
you take all that, and you feed it to Fanboys, and what do you get?
