Blu-ray gains in market share

o well, im guessing that whole warner bros annoucement bomb didnt help matters. I'll enjoy my hddvd player for the time being until blu ray actually has a finished product out, i tend not to buy stuff in beta form.

I have one thing and one thing only to say...

We were expecting a 20% share so this isn't that far off. Just remember HD DVD really has no day date releases for Jan so expect to see more of the same. These numbers were predicted before the Warner news and why is the BDA compairing a new release (3:10) to a release that came out before Christmas (Kingdom) and say that their release outsold the HD DVD release?

And HD-DVD music releases are lacking, compared to the regular Blu-ray releases...
such as BEYONCE EXPERIENCE comes to Blu-ray

Nice!

-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~

If Blu-ray wins, it will end up as the next Laserdisc and will never go mainstream because of all the problems and inconsistencies.

If HD DVD wins it can easily become a long lasting next-generation media format.

That's my prediction for the scenarios of both formats.

I'm glad that you don't predict things for a living.

Well, it's certainly possible that Blu-ray could become "the next LaserDisc" [niche format without mass support], since DVD is quite popular, and download/streaming threaten to be a factor (to a certain extent, not for the masses), but unlike LaserDisc players, I expect Blu-ray player PRICES to keep going down, so that within another year you will see $150 to $199 budget Blu-ray players - WHICH NEVER HAPPENED with the LaserDisc players. Pioneer did offer a few cheaper LD players in the early years ($299 to $499) of the 1980s, but the prices later increased and were never at a budget price again.

Also, the LaserDisc format was never advertised as much as Blu-ray is now, which will have much more ads to follow. And, LaserDisc barely had a rental market, with some (but not all) Blockbuster and Hollywood Video stores that starting renting the discs in 1990s. Before this, only an occasional video store offered LD rentals in the 1980s, such as VIDEO CONCEPTS, where I rented LDs (a mall location) for many years until they went bankrupt before the decade ended.

Also, Blu-ray is HIGH DEFINITION, and LaserDisc wasn't (except for the few Muse Hi-Vision LDs, available in Japan only, in the format's final years - which required a special player).

Blu-ray, whether you want to support it or not, will definitely become the main HD disc standard over the coming years, and should grow much larger worldwide than LD ever did... but will still have to overcome standard DVD, a tough "battle" and task ahead!

-Love Hendrix! (The Loverboy)
~ DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray/KURO Plasma owner ~

if its a choice between bd and sd, ill take sd

So yeah, let's keep waiting another year or so to get a cheap blu-ray player, and lets hope, no, lets pray that it actually is 'fully functional' in ALL means...

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if its a choice between bd and sd, ill take sd

I hear yea! This new fangled techno-crap is for youngin's. It was with great trepidation that I lately replaced my 8 track player in my 67 Mustang Fastback with one of those crazy CD players. My 8 track broke a few years ago

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[Post edited by Skyhawk on Jan 17, 2008]

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lets pray that it actually is 'fully functional' in ALL means...

mvckalel, I know your expectations may be high... but don't count on Blu-ray replacing your wife or girlfriend anytime soon...

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[Post edited by Skyhawk on Jan 17, 2008]

If Blu does end up winning, I'll be waiting at least a year before getting a stand alone player and it won't be a sony, probably will be dual format player. By then they should have a fully functional profile 2.0 and hope it works properly. Until then I'll keep on getting more HD DVD's.

enc66, I feel the same. Blu is way to Beta for me and will keep on getting HD DVD

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mvckalel, I know your expectations may be high... but don't count on Blu-ray replacing your wife or girlfriend anytime soon...

Skyhawk,


You are becoming our resident smart a**.

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[Post edited by tony1569 on Jan 18, 2008]

UK buyers, great news if you're looking to buy a HD DVD player.
Amazon.co.uk are selling Toshiba HD-EP30 for £149.99...

I am not sure what glitches you are talking about. I own a PS3 and over two dozen Blu-rays and have had NO issues of any kind. Although you didn't buy your player in 'beta', you evidently are a first adopter because you bought your HD-DVD player. Now you own a paperweight complete with coasters. Well, that's a little harsh. It is a real nice DVD upconverter.

I see amateur hour has come early today.

If only any of the blu-ray players had the balls to replace my cheap and fully functional $98 HD DVD player...or at least the 'capabilities'...

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But with no big titles on the calendar in the next few months for red, we wouldn't be surprised if these crazily lopsided sales become the norm. We do wonder how long HD DVD will stay the course if they can't even garner 20% of the movie sales market.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/18/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-january/

I'm glad that you don't predict things for a living.
good one. lol

Also guys watch what you say? bluray this. if blu wins that.
Bluray is a pretty solid format, once they work out the playback kinks, and lower the prices. I you really like HD movies, and blu matures... and you still dont acept it just because.. then you got issues.

We all are just victims of corporate America: Just like Paramount did, 20th Century Fox stayed with Blu-Ray after Sony gave them 120 million reasons to stay despite their production disks problems they have with BD. The same was is WB but they keep on denying taking money. The only reason WB went BD is because Fox stayed with BD (and 120 mill). I read WB was ready to go HD-DVD only only IF the HD group could bring Fox too. But we know how that one went. The bottom line, all this companies only care about money and not about the "consumer wants".

Ken Graffeo, EVP of HD strategic marketing, said the studio was "very encouraged" by Toshiba´s recent player price drops and believes it will spur HD DVD software sales, particularly on the new release front. "

Am I the only one who thinks this Universal exec sounds like a moron thinking the players are so important?

NO ONE makes emotional connections with a clunk of metal!

They'll make connections with films that they love. "I want to see Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Spiderman etc... I can't see those on HDDVD? Okay, well, screw your cheap player then. I don't care."

HDDVD holdouts are just annoying now not only for us movie lovers but also for us professionals who want the storage capacity for media.

:: starts Eyeballing a PS3 ::

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NO ONE makes emotional connections with a clunk of metal!

Blu Ray people don't make emotional connections to their chosen format/players? Coulda' fooled me!

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watch what you say! bluray this. if blu wins that.
Bluray is a pretty solid format, once they work out the playback kinks, and lower the prices. I you really like HD movies, and blu matures... and you still dont acept it just because.. then you got issues.

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Am I the only one who thinks this Universal exec sounds like a moron thinking the players are so important?

Let's be honest, in order to stablish a software in the market, you need the hardware to display it. Sony knows did and that is why they enabled the PS3 with a BD player even though they were/are loosing almost $500 a pop. Sony knew that the PS3 would be in high demand due to the PS2 popularity and in reality "forced" the consumer to buy BD movies because they were already getting a BD player along with their console.

My brother in-law told me himself one day while talking about the "format war": "Why am I going to buy a HD-DVD player when I already got a BD player built in on my PS3?" And his reasoning cannot be disputed, I don't blaming at all. But lets admit also that he was never given a opportunity to choose a format, and neither were the other 3.25 million owners of PS3 in America.

The media critics know that the only reason BD survived as a format was because of the PS3. BD would not have survived supported by BD stand-alone players alone. And that's a fact. So that is why the "Universal morons" know how important are the players.

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[Post edited by wii-lite on Jan 25, 2008]

From VIDEO BUSINESS 1/25/08...

High-Def DVD Grows at Faster Pace Than Standard

"High-definition DVD player sales during the fourth quarter spiked well above standard DVD at the comparable point in the earlier format’s life cycle." (continued in link above)

-LH (The Loverboy)

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[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Jan 25, 2008]