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Hello Gents. I know some of you have been very helpful in the past with tv help. Well, Im shopping for a bedroom tv. no more than 42' ..I would say.

I was looking at this Samsung LNT4065F or maybe this?? Toshiba REGZA 42HL167 ........ but nothing is set in stone yet. Please recommend a brand or details i might consider. Like a Pioneer, Tosh or whatever and or why. also websites that might help.

Thanks
kuco

Definitely buy the Toshiba over the Samsung (as that 4065F model, among others by them has had "HDMI issues", according to various complaints and threads on the AVSForum).

Toshiba LCDs have excellent processing, and no known major problems, although a few people say their color can have too much saturated 'green', but this is minor and can be adjusted somewhat in the main menu.

Of course, my personal LCD brand of choise is Sharp, and JVC.

-LH (the Loverboy)

Im not stuck on only those 2 models... you can recomend something around 40... other brands etc... so that I can look them up

also should i strongly go for 1080p at a 40' or 720 is alright??

[Post edited by kucoloco on Jan 25, 2008]

Price-wise, the 1080p 40" LCDs don't cost much more than 720p models, although for a bedroom environment 720p is really all you need. With discounts, you could find a great deal on a 720p model, as well as everyday low prices for these at Wal-Mart/Sam's Club, Costco, Target, BB, CC, Sears, internet.

A specific model I recommend is the Sharp D64U series - much improved over the older D62U series (from 2006), with the same quality as their higher-priced D82 and D93 line. With it's 'Film Mode' setting enabled, Sharp LCDs pass 1080i deinterlacing tests for both film and video-based signals. Sharp models have a little more 'detail' (and clearer) than most similar-priced LCDs brands. They own some proprietary tech in LCD (w/patents etc), and build their own glass at their Japanese plants.

JVC doesn't make their own glass, but have lower prices on 720p models, and a superior GENESSA 32-bit processing chip, which allows it to easily pass the lab deinterlacing tests. If you live near at Fry's Electronics (mainly in CA and TX), they carry JVC at the lowest prices. Sharp LCDs are found at mainly retailers (along with Toshiba, Samsung), and Sony (higher-priced usually).

-LH (The Loverboy)

Thank, kind of like the LC37D62U 37" 1080p you mentioned better than the tosh. its pretty pricey...thinking of going with the 37' and is 1080p... that way i can also get a receiver. dont think i'll need 42 for the bedroom

kucoloco... that particular Sharp model (D62U) is now 2-years old, and have been much improved with others in their current lineup, including the D64U series, D43 series, and the one specifically for video game use (GP1).

37" is fine, but the 40-42" LCDs are usually about the same price (720p). Note: Sharp doesn't make 40" LCDs - they jump from 37" to 42".

-LH (the Loverboy)

Ok, I hear you. thanksagian. so d64 and above... hmm amazon has this Sharp Aquos LC37GP1U 37" 1080p LCD HDTV 1399 and Sharp Aquos LC42D64U 42" 1080p LCD HDTV.. for 1450

both 1080p. hey justbecause i for gaming. doesent mean is going to take anyhting away from my movie experience right?

If i should be looking in other websites let me know. I'll prob shell out the extra money for the bigger one.

EDIT- any info regarding this?
http://reviews.cnet.com/4370-6485_7-168-107.html?tag=dvdtown-20

[Post edited by kucoloco on Jan 26, 2008]

Kuco for $50 more get the 42" since it's 5 inches bigger

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Jan 26, 2008]

Falc, do you also dig the Aquos, over the samsung and Tosh?

Well I used to have the 52" D62U Aquos and it had some banding issues (most people didn't notice it until I pointed it out and you could only notice it in dark scenes). Other than that the picture quality was pretty good. This D62U series has been discontinued because of the banding issues I assume since they got so many complaints. The new series D64U is supposed to be improved although I personally haven't done much research on it. My bro has the 37" D43U (I believe?) in his bedroom and he loves it. I checked it out myself and noticed no issues with the image.

All things considered Sharp Aquos LCD's are very good except that D62U series which had the banding issues. After I returned my D62U I almost purchased the D92U 52" which is VERY good but then I saw my Pioneer Plasma and that was that. They are actually very close in picture quality but the blacks were a little bit better on the Pioneer but not by much.

Would I recommend a Sharp Aquos? Yes. Stay clear of the D62U series though.

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Jan 26, 2008]

Kuco,

I own the Toshiba REGZA 42HL167 and I LOVE it! It is sharp, has good blacks, an understandable menu system, and very specific color adjustment options, although mine was pretty close to my likeing right out of the box. My only complaint is with the sound bar which I find to be a little (not much) hollow at times when watching cable (no biggie, I just switch to the Denon receiver in that case). It integrates seemlessly with my A-35 (natch!) and I'm certain a BD product would do just as well.

Thanks a bunch guys. If you/or others have anything else to add feel free.

-kuco

J. Falc. and others.. this is the tv im currently thinking on picking up next week.

Sharp Aquos LC42D64U 42" 1080p LCD HDTV

Thanks for the input. if you have anything extra to add, Please let me know... I apreciate it.
Hey J -- if the d62 is the one with the issues. why is it more expensive? anyhow.. if you guys let me order this and I dont like it.... I wont do anyhting. lol... Ill just send it back.

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Definitely buy the Toshiba over the Samsung (as that 4065F model, among others by them has had "HDMI issues", according to various complaints and threads on the AVSForum).

That's a matter of opinion. I have a samsung 46-inch hdtv & LOVE IT! I've seen the Toshiba line. NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL! BRAVIA line is TOO EXPENSIVE for what the other brand names offer, at a cheaper price.

In other words, ANYONE WILL SELL YOU A MODEL, but EVERYONE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT TASTE.

You can only decide PERSONALLY, watching HD loop sample at a showroom, with DIVERSIFIED selection.

Only 42-inch? DON'T BOTHER WITH 1080P, a waste of money... since difference in clarity (again, based on your own opinion) does not show on 50 inch tv's... or bigger.

Consider CONTRAST RATIO, COLOR SATURATION/CALIBRATION, & REFRESH RATE (among many other issues... besides looking at the brand name & the 1080i/1080p mess). Consider the Consumer Reports reviews, including amazon.com reviews.

Best of all: TAKE ALL THESE OPINIONS (and opinion of others) with a grain of salt.

SEE FOR YOURSELF.

Best place to try a hdtv is Sam's Club or Costco (or whatever Warehouse Membership Store offers you a FULL REFUND on electronic returns). Choose one. Take it home. Try it for a week. It's worth the hassle, considering the cost.

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Definitely buy the Toshiba over the Samsung (as that 4065F model, among others by them has had "HDMI issues", according to various complaints and threads on the AVSForum).

Xplay thanks for the input.. but you misunderstood. he said buy the toshiba over that particular model samsung which has the hdmi issues. ---and i knwo i had one already--

Whoops. My bad, on the OVERALL product line.

thats cool. xplay


..... HELP GUYS!!! my useful thread is sinking in TROLL threads.... and i cant swim

Courtesy of a HD DVD fanboy...

So which one did you finally decide on? I had no opinions since I bought the cheap 32" Dynex TV for $480 at BB, so no real knowledge here... ...which, by the way, is not a great TV, but it was cheap.

[Post edited by mvckalel on Jan 29, 2008]

After extensive research and reviews form Cnet and Consumer reports, I bought the Panasonic TH-42PX77U. I think this is by far the best 42" Plasma on the market. Has an anti-glare screen which is amazing as my 4 year old's first comment was that she could not see herself in the tv. they make a 1080p model in this series, but not worth it as you won't notice the difference unless you are fairly close to the tv and even at that point, most folks would not. The colors and deep blacks are awesome on this set. Standard tv also looks very good, even stretched to fit the screen. My opinion is that no LCD can compare except for the very high end models which are quite expensive. One downside is that there are only 2 HDMI inputs. Sound is also okay, but should be more than sufficient for a bedroom. If you consider going Plasma, this is a great choice.

LH said:

Definitely buy the Toshiba over the Samsung (as that 4065F model, among others by them has had "HDMI issues", according to various complaints and threads on the AVSForum).

Toshiba LCDs have excellent processing, and no known major problems, although a few people say their color can have too much saturated 'green', but this is minor and can be adjusted somewhat in the main menu.

wolfen actually agrees with the above. I wouldn't touch Samsung with a ten-foot pole. Believe it or not as an owner of both a 50" and 60" Pioneer plasma, I actually have... (dare I say) a 47" Vizio Gallevia LCD 1080p in my game room. I've had it for months now and Gears of War NEVER looked better.

[Post edited by wolfen on Jan 29, 2008]

Yes, I also prefer plasma, and purchased the 50" Pioneer KURO 768p model in December, with the superior processing chip (accurate deinterlacing and scaling), and amazing contrast ratio.

But kucoloco wants an LCD, so that's why I posted my main preferences - Sharp, Toshiba, JVC. Samsung does have some very good models, but the "65F" series has well-known major issues with HDMI compatiability and signal drop-outs, and if anyone wants an AVSForum link to this I can provide it (also mentioned on PCWorld's website review).

The Sharp D64U series is their main "low priced/great quality" model line out now, with several sizes available, and significant improvements to the 2-year old D62U line - sorry kucoloco, I don't know why you saw a higher-priced D62 unit (maybe the store paid more for it).

By the way, SHARP is now releasing yet another NEW 2008 LCD line (w/17 different models/sizes).

-LH (the Loverboy)
~ DUAL HI-DEF FORMAT SUPPORTER ~

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Jan 29, 2008]

mv im pretty decided on this: Sharp Aquos LC42D64U 42" 1080p LCD HDTV

wolfen, i didnt do much searching.. when i picked up the samsung. is ok, but even though i dont have cable hooked to it, when i use it all day.. like watching movies.. then 360, then movies, and or ps3. my sound via hdmi sometimess cuts off. or video.. and have to turn off then on.

only happens, when i push it hard and switch connectons several times.. all while being used most of the day. has only happened 3 times in 1 yr. imagine if i had cable hooked to it.could prob be worst

Loverboy... Should I be looking into.. 42' plasmas instead??.. or those only come bigger?

[Post edited by kucoloco on Jan 29, 2008]

kucoloco,

If you're a serious gamer...don't go with plasma (potential burn-in). If you enjoy deep black levels and excellent contrast for satellite and movies...go plasma. If you want the best of both worlds, Toshiba comes pretty close with their Regza line.

Kucoloco... if you sit close enough (within 8 feet), and since you prefer playing video games, I suggest the 1080p LCD. You'll appreciate both the higher resolution, and can play the games with no fear of image retention developing during long sessions.

Of course, most LCDs lack the higher true contrast of a plasma (especially Pioneer or Panasonic models), but newer ones are much better than a few years ago. Finally, LCDs run a little cooler than plasma, so your electricity bill benefits, although it's really not much more a month for a plasma (compared to LCD).

Overall, I recommend the Sharp for your situation.

-LH (The Loverboy)

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Kucoloco... if you sit close enough (within 8 feet), and since you prefer playing video games, I suggest the 1080p LCD.

1080p difference versus 1080i in a 42-inch hdtv IS NOT distinguishable. I've seen it from 5-12 feet in distance & DOES NOT MERIT THE EXTRA EXPENSE.

Moreover, DON'T BELIEVE the hype over 1080p.

xplaytendo... today there are NO native '1080i' TVs, except for a few Hitachi plasmas (as Sony's past 30" & 34" 1080i CRTube HDTVs are no longer being produced, although you might still find a Samsung or Philips 30" native 1080i Widescreen CRT still available).

ALL other HDTV displays will convert a 1080i signal to it's native resolution, either 720p (& 768p) or 1080p, and 1080p has HIGHER RESOLUTION (since it contains over 1 million more pixels!) than a 720p model, and in my opinion most people [maybe not you?] can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 42" or larger TV, from up to 8 feet away.

Has nothing to do with '1080i', - I'm talking about the NATIVE resolution of the TV, whether being 720p (1080i) or 1080p, and you should already know that a 1080p model has DOUBLE the number of pixels as 720p, and twice the resolution... which CAN be noticeable if sitting within 8 feet.

-LH (The Loverboy)

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Jan 30, 2008]

Thanks again guys. Im starting to feel like i should get some of you something for valentines. lol

Back on topic.

Im actually a 50/50 user. I play and watch movies. when i play alot i barely watch movies, but then there are days I watch alot of movies, and dont play. Then days i play one hr or two, then pop a movie. What i never do is watch tv. except!!! during baseball season. I havent had cable in 4 years. When i get married (1yr) the fiance now loves to watch tv. so Ill consider that when i buy my 52' set.

Just wanted to add.

[Post edited by kucoloco on Jan 30, 2008]

hey Hendrix yupeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Just came back to work from BB. they had an Aquos 42' same one im pretty decided on getting, and i think its a good choice. ---not that i didnt believe you before seeying it--

[Post edited by kucoloco on Jan 30, 2008]