Re: HD DVD gain in market share after huge drop

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I had always heard that DVDTown was bias, but after reading these forums and seeing your posting style I see how you definitely try to shade things red.

If you're going to pretend this site is neutral then be neutral, otherwise stop pretending and just fess up. You're just making HD DVD look bad for us by being bias but pretending your not.

My two cents.

I'll pay you back those two cents, for the garbage you just posted.

Mine is FREE.

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[Post edited by xplaytendo on Jan 29, 2008]

HD DVD is a great format. But with 5 of 7 studios exclusively behind Bluray-eventually good business will cause both Universal and Paramount to at least release bluray titles as well. Though they are in a contract now-once it expires it would be too large of a market to not tap into. Only large payouts from Toshiba would cause Paramount and Universal to stay exclusive-but that seems unlikely. SO buy HDDVD-but realize a day IS coming when all HD will be available only on Blu ray, while only a small fraction if any will be available on HDDVD. SO by all means keep buying it up HD DVD fans. Us bluray fans have a bright HD future knowing the whole catalog will be ours without having to buy two different players like you guys will have to. SO you can pay now or later. You can be patient like the blu fans knowing the HD exclusive titles will eventually come out on blu-but the blu will never turn red. Cheers to common sense

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[Post edited by michial on Jan 29, 2008]

http://www.cio-today.com/news/Toshiba-Price-Cuts-May-Not-Stop-Blu-Ray/story.xhtml?story_id=13000G0BBW9Q

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Gartner believes that Toshiba's price-cutting may prolong HD DVD's life a little, but the limited line-up of film titles will inflict fatal damage on the format. Gartner expects that, by the end of 2008, Blu-ray will be the winning format in the consumer market, and the war will be over.

michial you said that paramount and universal will drop their exclusives when their contract is over, but both have agreements in their contract that they can lose their exclusives if warner goes blu exclusive. so if they wanted to drop their exclusives they could have already. this information has already been presented and both studios said they are not changing.

movie studio exclusives are a big help in terms of sales, but the simple fact is the average consumer is uninformed as to what studios are exclusive to what format and a good portion of the ones that do know have no ideo what studio is producing what movie. you are overestimating the average consumers desire to look up information on a product before they buy it. most people go into a store and buy something they can afford because its cooler then the one they have... plain and simple. they don't know or care about studio support.

I feel stuck. I got into the big box stores, and everything is BR... HD-DVD is lumped onto an end cap in the back corner (no where near the front of the HD section)... We're down to (2) movie studios..

Warner actually made sure I wouldn't buy anymore of their HD-DVDs, by jumping...

How in the world will this come back around???

I remember when MTV launched, and they didn't have any videos - so the UK kicked some in - and their artists became the next largest names in music.... Maybe it's time for some Indie studios to start cranking out some HD-DVD flicks that people want to see. Maybe even make them really really cheap - like $9.95.

Well... They're having a clearence sale. What else are the sales supposed to do?

"Us bluray fans have a bright HD future knowing the whole catalog will be ours without having to buy two different players like you guys will have to."

Well, at least I know we BOTH will buying Profile 2.0 machines, since anything you already have won't be 2.0 (without serious emulation or work-arounds).

The bottom line is if Warner Bros went HD DVD exclusive (as was rumoured to happen without being paid $500 million) HD DVD would be in the same position bluray is in now. The other studios like New Line would have gone HD DVD exclusive also. Basically everything that happened in blurays favour would have happened in HD DVD's favour if Warner went HD DVD exclusive.

Reality is they went bluray exclusive and we have to deal with it. It doesn't mean HD DVD is dead though. Studios are not going to ignore the HD DVD player price drops and player sales but at the end of the day the movies have to sell also. If they see the movie sales they will jump in. Let's not forget HD DVD has enjoyed better attach rates (player to movie sales) for the better part of this format war.

Falcon said -

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"Basically everything that happened in blurays favour would have happened in HD DVD's favour if Warner went HD DVD exclusive."

Nice try Falcon, but your scenario above (first paragraph) is incorrect...

-FORMAT SUPPORT BREAKDOWN-

HD-DVD
-Universal
-Paramount/Dreamsworks
-The Weinstein Company/First Look/Genius

Blu-ray
-Fox
-Sony
-Lionsgate
-MGM/UA
-Disney/Pixar/Miramax
-Warner Brothers/New Line/HBO
-Starz Home Entertainment
-Sony Music
-Universal Music
-Warner/Reprise Music

SO... in your scenario, even if Warner/NewL/HBO had decided to go HD-DVD "exclusive", the support is still tilted to Blu-ray - however, it would now be pretty equal between the two formats (but it certainly wasn't equal even before Warner's announcement).

Also, remember that with Paramount/Dreamworks, their exclusive HD-DVD support is technically only for a limited time (early next year). So, the only real (and previous) exclusive HD-DVD support was by Universal, compared to Sony, Fox, Disney/Pixar, Lionsgate, and MGM/UA who were ALREADY on record as supporting Blu-ray exclusively.

-LH (The Loverboy)
~ HI-DEF DUAL FORMAT SUPPORTER ~

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[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Jan 30, 2008]

Henning .. dont listen to the monkeys. you do a great job.

-Dual format owner.