Re: HD DVD camp responds to Netflix and Best Buy

It seems the RAT'S are leaving the ship on a daily bases in favor of blu... I hate to admit it but I to have jumped ship and bought a PS3 since Warner's abandoned, forsaken HD... I have to admit I have yet to be disappointed with my PS3, THX..:-}

TIM... that photo you posted is the wife of my sound design professor in collage and that's what I truly find funny about all these posts...

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TIM... that photo you posted is the wife of my sound design professor in collage and that's what I truly find funny about all these posts...

LMAO!!!

Well, I was thinking of that part she did in "Mr. Deeds", for some reason it just came to mind when I saw this thread.

Oh well, even if the miracle doesn't occur I will be more than happy to have them bring on the clearance sales. Then I can accumulate a decent stock of high-def movies for dirt cheap while prices on Blu-Ray come down AND I can see if they can hold up to standard DVD.

"All I heard is blah, blah, blah, I'm a dirty tramp!"

I was gonna guess mr deeds shortly after you posted. but i got distracted wit a few buds on the cell. a group of us all sharing amazon prime.

freakin cool, 70 bucks/year for free 2day ship on all items... you can add 4 ppl anywhere.... say they related.. they allow it. lol

I'm never ever giving my hard earned money to Sony. I will never buy their expensive products.
Toshiba, I hope that you have something up your sleeve. Even if you have to shell out money like Sony showed sell out Warner Bros. I have a HD DVD player and I love it!

LETS GO TOSHIBA!

Red is dead? You can always tell a bluray fan, most are clueless and have a bluray player only because their mommy baught them a PS3. (It's a blue laser on the HDDVD also for the record). I can confirm, working for Magnolia / Bestbuy, that yes they have heavily stacked it's attention toward Bluray since day one. On all the endcaps (6 or 7) all but one is bluray. And in Magnolia, no HD DVD being demoed. Even though, yes it is the better format, it never got and continues not to get a fair shake. For the record, I own an XA1 and love it, love it, love it. I also own a Pioneer Elite bluray and really like it, more so because of it's built quality and picture/sound quality. As far as comparison, as I mentioned, the HD DVD player /format is clearly the better picture. I couldn't care less about the PIP, my bottom line is picture and sound. Proof: Top 3 HDDVD's I've seen MI3, KingKong, Transformers, beat out Spidy 3, XMen, Fantastic 4 Rise, and any I've seen so far on Bluray. On the HDDVD, the picture is beyond expectation. On bluray, it's as expected very good High Def, not mind bending like HDDVD. Even Tremmors which is 20plus years old looks so amazing it's hard to look at the close ups. Though it may be a little less noticable on a small screen, nothing escapes my attention, I have a dedicated theatre (11' screen) with all the bells and whistles so I am in a position to judge without bias.

It's ashame that there can't be some kind of compromise, where Toshiba could show Sony how to make amazing players. I am covered either way, just angry at Toshiba for not putting up much of a fight, and always reacting instead of taking the lead.

I know this has already been said, but does NDP take in record Amazon and Walmart sales of HD DVDs.

Movieguy, you are definitely entitled to your opinion but I have to disagree that HD-DVD has the better picture quality. Like you, I have both formats (and also used to work with Magnolia but that is irrelevant). In my opinion, also shared by prof reviewers, HD-DVD and BD can have the same exact picture quality. Look at any WB movie on both formats with the same video encode and you will see no difference. Since you have an earlier HD-DVD player, it sounds like you've been in the format war since close to the beginnning. You may have been burned by the fact that some first gen BD discs (ie. House of Flying Daggers or The Fifth Element (not the re-issue)) had horrible image quality. In comparison, HD-DVD's at the time had consistently better image quality. I'm pretty sure BD's have quite caught up in terms of video quality with the occasional egg.

In addition, if you care about audio quality as much as I do, the BD format gives you the advantage of extra capacity, which is important for uncompressed PCM tracks, TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, etc. Sure there's the occasional HD-DVD with TrueHD and DTS-HD MA but what special features were sacrificed in the process (Pan's Labrinyth HD-DVD is excellent exception)?

It sounds very much like I am pro-BD but I'm not. My argument is that BD and HD-DVD are at the best the same in A/V quality, and at worst, BD has slight edge with HBR (High Bit Rate) audio.

Actually, I have yet to view any of the earlier Bluray's because of the quality issues. My opinion is based on all new releases. As impressive as Spidy 3's sound and some other bluray's, they don't compare to Transformer (Dolby Plus) so the higher bit rate is an "ON PAPER THING ONLY". Much like the 50 GB space that was overly stated. Finally, as stated I have a screening room with an 11' screen. Where you can hide differences on 42" or 50" or even a 60", you cannot hide from 133". Working in Magnolia does give me definitive advantages. I see every player come and go, I know which ones have what issues and which ones stand out. That's why I purchased the Pioneer Elite 94.

Much like Betamax (which I was around for also), the better format seems for the moment to have lost. I just happen to have the VHS also

You would think working at BB/Magnolia would give you an advantage but unless you disconnect one player and replace with the other to the SAME TV, you are not comparing apples to apples! In the store more often than not, the HD-DVD player will be connected to a Toshiba LCD whereas the BD players will be connected to Samsung, Sony, etc. I don't know about you but the 120Hz mode on the Sony's give me a headache (film should look like film and not video!) It's not going to be a fair comparison unless both devices are connected to the same TV.

At home, I've had my PS3 and HD-A3 connected to a 50" Pioneer Elite plasma and on separate occasions, to a BENQ PE8700+ projecting onto a 92" screen (sorry, not 133" ). I've watched the full gamut of movies from CG cartoons, action, dramas, documentaries, and music concerts and I can tell you that they are pretty equal in video quality when you pit the best BD's against the best HD-DVD's. Have you tried watching any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, Ratatouille, Crank or Apocalypto? Besides Spidey 3, you may not have seen the best that BD has to offer.

I leave you with this thread concerning BD PQ by tiers:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858316