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Ok Purple fans... 5.1 analog... two sources, one set of inputs...


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Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
January 2008
What are you dual SA player guys using to solve the problem of having 10 cables trying to plug into 5 inputs? It isn't as easy as "Y" adapters making sure the other device is off, is it?

Thanks,
Griz
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
July 2006
Griz that's a good point. I never thought of that little issue.

I'm so getting an Onkyo receiver now
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
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January 2008
Well, SOME of us have wives who are Directors of Finance, so justifying purchases of new receivers after we just got a new one last year will be a little difficult. *wink* Besides, I am working on the boss to approve the purchase and calibration of a Lumagen HDP. THEN my video side of things will be complete.

Now, for the rest of us folks who are not a fortunate as Falcon, what solutions have you found?

Griz
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
July 2006
Griz if you just got a receiver last year you could still sell it and just put in the difference. The Onkyo TX SR605 is selling on Ebay for $350 brand new.

By the way I have 2 kids so believe me I don't have an abundance of cash either. Still I would be interested to know how to resolve your 5.1 analogue issue. I'm thinking Y splitters are the only way to go.
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
February 2008
Get the TX-SR705 like I did from Amazon for $549 shipped, it's the best receiver I have ever owned for the price, plus it has all the latest format support, AND THX certification. The 605 has popping issues as well as the 805, or so the forums say. The 705 was made after these 2 so all (I hope) the issues were solved in this model, PLUS it's not a hot plate like the 805.
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
January 2008
Falcon, just want to make sure you know I was just razzing ya! I will take a look at these receivers though, guys. Still would like to hear input (pun intended) on this whole 10 to 5 fiasco.

Griz
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
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January 2008
THX means dick any more. They just whore their name out for cash. You have the right price we will give you the logo... that the THX motto.

As far as the Onkyo receivers, I hear they are the best, but if a reason to buy an AMP is THX... I will pass.
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
June 2006
Any component switcher will work. In that case you will have three sets of 5 cables each. Example: HD DVD player (5 rca cables) out to switch In 1, BD player (5 rca cables) out to switch In 2, Out to you receiver (5 rca cables). Set the receiver to 6 channel analogue (Denon) or whatever your machine calls it. In this case the selected DVD deck will send the signal to the receiver which will mix it to whatever the receiver is capable of outputing.

[Post edited by StevePro on Feb 13, 2008]
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
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November 2007
The 605 and the 805 do suffer from popping issues, but after reading thru alot of the forums it seems that overheated units suffer from this. I've had my 605 for 2 weeks and so far no popping. The ventilation is excellent (it sits on a shelf and has air flow on all sides) for my unit, therefore it never gets hot.
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
February 2008
THX may whore their names out, but they have many modes extra on the 705 than the 605, but here is the why you should get the 705 OVER the 605 OR 805:

Why should I get a 705 over the 605?

General
- THX Select 2 Certification (605 has no THX)
- additional 10 watts per channel
- onboard fans for cooling
- Blue backlighting around the volume knob!!
- Advanced remote control - fully backlit with learning/programming abilities

Audio Processing
- 3 DSPs and more listening modes
- Audyssey MultiEQ vs 2EQ on the 605. MultiEQ is more advanced and supports 8 listening positions rather than 2
- 7 band equaliser vs 5 band
- expanded range of crossover frequencies (70Hz and 90Hz)
- ability to post process 5.1 channel PCM signals (ie from internally decoding BD/HDDVD players) to 6.1 or 7.1 (605 apparently cant do this on 5.1ch PCM)
- accepts DSD format (from SACDs) over multi channel inputs

Inputs/Outputs
- +1 HDMI input
- +1 digital coax audio input
- +1 optical audio output
- 7.1 channel RCA pre-outs
- Phono input
- 12V trigger out
- IR in (for infrared repeater systems)
- RS232 COM port
- zone 2 speaker connections have proper binding posts

8) Why should I get the 705 over the 805?

-More affordable
-Much small compact body size and weight:
705 = Dimensions (W x H x D) 17 1/8" x 6 7/8" x 14 13/16" | Weight 28.4 lbs. (12.9 kg)
805 = Dimensions (W x H x D) 17 1/8" x 7 5/8" x 18 1/16" | Weight 50.9 lbs. (23.1 kg)
-More power efficient (6.2 amps vs 9.5 amps) Normal household circuit breaker is 20 amps. Combined with TV, sub, players, game consoles, lights, etc. Its not a major deterrent as you can relocate devices around the room onto other circuit breaker outlets but its important to stay aware of the power loud. 9.5 amp is also at max volume only.. expect that to be around 80% of that number at normal volume levels.
-Cooler running and doesn't pose a fire risk. (Search official 805 thread for evidence of this several users have said their 805’s burnt out and caught fire after a few weeks of use. Its not common but the risk exists. These users also had plenty of space around their receiver so it wasn't that those users didn't allow for breathing room. For me, risk of fire was the number one deterrent.)
-The video section of the 805 is basically the same as the 705. You need to step up to the 875/905 to get improvements in video.
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
September 2006
Ok if you don't actually want to buy a new receiver and are looking for a temporary solution. Buy a component video switch box (preferably powered) this will give you six analog inputs. The three components and three regular RCA. Much better then a Y adaptaer and it keeps one audio source at at time going to the receiver.

Don't worry about the color coding RCA will simply send along whatever signal is passed through it whether it's video or audio.

[Post edited by Movielover316 on Feb 13, 2008]
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Member since:
January 2008
I have had my 605 for 6 months now and no popping or any other problem.

[Post edited by dpdurst on Feb 13, 2008]
Thursday, February 14, 2008
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February 2008
I am not dogging the 605 at all, I just could not pass up the 705 with Polk RM705's for $780 shipped, ordered them 2 Saturday's ago and got them the day after Mardi Gras! Been in heaven ever since. I also have an old pair of Polk R30's as my fronts for 7.1 sound and man Pan's Labarynth (sp) sounds AMAZING, that has to be THE best soundtrack I have heard yet on Blu Ray!
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Member since:
March 2002
Well, to get back to Griz's original question: what to do about the analogue cables if he's going to use his old receiver with two high-def players. The answer is a switchbox. I believe Radio Shack has such devices. Or just Google, and you'll find some inexpensive boxes.

And, Steve, I think he's going to need something with twelve input connections (six from each high-def player) and six outputs to the receiver. I believe 5.1 channels equal six connections, not five.

John
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Member since:
January 2008
Holy mathematical messup, Batman! Yeah! I will need 12 going into 6! DUH!!! LOL!!!
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Member since:
June 2006
John and Griz,

You're right, it's 6 not 5. Math was never my strong point!
There are several switchers listed on Amazon.

[Post edited by StevePro on Feb 14, 2008]
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Member since:
January 2008
Quote:
Movielover316 said,

Ok if you don't actually want to buy a new receiver and are looking for a temporary solution. Buy a component video switch box (preferably powered) this will give you six analog inputs. The three components and three regular RCA. Much better then a Y adaptaer and it keeps one audio source at at time going to the receiver.

Don't worry about the color coding RCA will simply send along whatever signal is passed through it whether it's video or audio.

[Post edited by Movielover316 on Feb 13, 2008]


Sorry Movielover, you want non-powered... Audio and Video operate at defferent frequesncies and bandwidth... The Video outlets could leave noise or hiss in the mix. I bought the cheapy one from Radio Shack($14.99)
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Member since:
January 2008
ReaggieP,

What model do you have?

Thanks,
Griz
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Member since:
November 2007
Well Griz...12 decent RCA cables (decent, not stupid expensive Monster cables) are still going to cost a small fortune. You might be better off to sell your present receiver and get the cheap Onkyo.

Good luck selling that to the wife though

[Post edited by Bosshog7 on Feb 14, 2008]
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Member since:
January 2008
Good point, Bosshog7. Fortunately, I have six quality 12 footers in storage which I can cut down and solder new ends onto. Plenty of cable that's already paid for. Whew.

One issue I would run into with getting a new HDMI ready receiver... the fact I do NOT want to use it for video switching. I will be getting a Lumagen HDP and deeper calibration later this year, so that complicates matters considering I want the video signals to run from output device, then to the Lumagen, and finally the display. By using the video proc, I think I am forced to separate my audio from the HDMI video. I'll have to dig further into that. I would rather keep the video away from the receiver though, especially since I am dumping money into vid processing.

Griz
Thursday, February 14, 2008
Member since:
September 2006
Quote:
Sorry Movielover, you want non-powered


Thanks RP, good to know. I plan on buying a blu-Ray standalone with 5.1 analog outputs. I'm in the same boat as Griz but luckily I have an old non-powered switch box in my closet

[Post edited by Movielover316 on Feb 14, 2008]

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