Toshiba dropping HD DVD?

I dont think this wil happen , its far too soon.

It does seem too soon but... you never know.

I love Toshibas players and don't think they did enough to keep the format going. However, I cannot blame them for throwing in the towel when they are losing money on every player and it doesn't seem any change is in sight. I will continue to enjoy my xbox add on and HD-A30 with the discs I have and the ones that will be online cheap soon. It would have been nice if the movie studios had chosen the underdog who had its sh** together from the start but what can you do. Sudios are greedy.

this has to be the most low class report i have seen yet. I don't care how reliable the source is. If toshiba is dropping hd, i want to hear it from toshiba! I don't want to read a report they dropping hd and then read further that toshiba denies it. it's crap.

I truly hope you are right Indian. I will keep supporting them until they throw the towel in. Cannot wait to get Beowulf and will buy Bee movie as well.

It's possible Toshiba will start selling blu-ray players soon:

http://www.1080living.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=30

If this is true, then again, my petition about Toshiba producing a dual player now makes sense. I would love for them to do this, and this would show that they respect all the HD DVD supporters.
Hey DJ, where you at dude, I think you were the one who said you had a buddy in California who said that they are developing a dual player?

I don't believe it until it comes from Toshiba. Didn't we just have an article a few days ago that Universal was going dual? What happened with that? Nothing.

It sounds like another spin from the Blu camp to discourage people from buying into the format and nothing more. Toshiba has no doubt heard about CH DVD, and if it really is compatible that's millions of new customers.

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It sounds like another spin from the Blu camp to discourage people from buying into the format and nothing more. Toshiba has no doubt heard about CH DVD, and if it really is compatible that's China

Fixed that for you.

[Post edited by Mike37 on Feb 15, 2008]

Hood I am only going by what the 2 articles said. They sound really reliable to me. In the article the VP of Toshiba said that something is brewing but not for another 2 weeks. So, I am just trying to keep upbeat if it happens. Let's just hope that if it does, Toshiba makes a dual player and not just a Blu stand alone player.

Yeah, you'd think that the CH DVD alone would keep them alive because the Chinese would buy HD DVDs to play on them. Probably pirate too much to make our movie industry any money lol.

Let's be realistic now. Does HD-DVD really have a chance to come back with the same momentum as when Pramount switched sides? No way. There are no more studios left for Toshiba to woo. Warner was the last big ship that Toshiba relied on. At least if Warner had stayed neutral, it was 50-50 chance for either format. But now, its too late. I think Toshiba should let this format go, and join Blu_ray, so consumers are not confused. And studios will release more movies in HD format if there is only one format, rather than the wait and watch attitude. I was an HDDVD fan, I still own the XA2, and love it. I really wanted HDDVD to be the final winner. But, now that I own both formats, I can say apart from prices, both formats are identical in PQ. May be BluRay has an edge with audio, because of the capacity.

I think Sony and Toshiba should do a swap side. Lets see how it will work out.
Sony dropping Bluray for HD DVD, this will be quite a big news. haha

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9873029-7.html

another kick in the balls

Although its not an official announcement could be a disgruntled employee shouting crap

[Post edited by Dave27 on Feb 15, 2008]

All I know is that it sounds FAR more likely that Toshiba will put out a dual player rather than dropping HD DVD completely.

Combo players already exist, and we've seen this trend before. When DVD players first came out, they could only play back DVDs and music CDs -- that's it. Now they can play MP3 CDs, DiVX, etc. It isn't very hard to just tack on HD DVD on that list.

I'm not saying that CH DVD is the Trojan Horse for HD DVD or anything, but I think it's still too early to tell what kind of impact that will have on the format being compatible with HD. With 1/5 of the world's population, that has the potential to be huge.

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Are people stupid? Are they also going to stop carrying upconverting DVD players? Because that's all the Toshiba players are and then some. Ridiculous.

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Didn't I mention this about a month ago? Didn't I tell people I talked to the electronics manager at Wal*mart and he told me they would be discontinuing HD DVD?

Of course, all you fanboys attacked me with "it's hearsay. You have no proof" or the ever popular, "I work at Wal*mart Tim, and you're wrong!"

Well, hate to say I told you so . . . but . . . I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Well, it is a blog run by Wal-Mart, so I would give it some credibility.

Tim, it IS still hearsay. This isnt an official announcement, truly.


Something I will be saying a lot as this war winds down.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one


I guess WB was HD-DVD fans' Serenity Valley

I HATE SONY! THEY EAT UP all the market!
They kill Dreamcast with Playstation,
they try to kill Gameboy with PSP,
they try to kill CD with MD,
they Kill SD card with memory stick,
They kill motorola with sony erricson,
they now kill Toshiba with Bluray.

SONY is a devil company! A lot worst than Microsoft! SONY need to go to hell!!!!!

Hey Timmy, where were you yesterday, we just got a whole new truck load of red trolls and no where to put them.

It's not about being fanboys, it's about Toshiba being blacklisted for no reason.

They have a product that:

1) Plays HD DVDs
2) Plays standard DVDs upconverted

Now, Wal-Mart and other stores sells DVD players that only have option #2 above. So why stop selling a product that does both? Does that make any sense at all?

Tony... dont unload the truck. just

Think of it this way. Let's say Fox and WB went HD DVD and Blu-Ray lost the war. Would stores stop selling the PlayStation 3? Of course not.

This is what is bugging me more than anything. I can understand that HD DVD lost the format war, but for stores to stop selling their players is baffling. It's like they think they only play HD DVDs and nothing more, which is a completely false perception.

Just supplementing the previous posts:

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Blu-ray news


Wal-Mart To Exclusively Support Blu-ray

Posted February 15, 2008 by Josh

Blu-ray Disc Wal-Mart has confirmed with Blu-ray.com that beginning in June the world's largest retailer will only stock Blu-ray players and movies. Over the next few months, they will phase out all HD DVD products and reorganize their stores to focus on Blu-ray. This move comes days after similar statements of support for Blu-ray by Internet movie rental site Netflix and retailer Best Buy.

Gary Severson, senior vice president, Home Entertainment, Wal-Mart, U.S. commented, "We've listened to our customers, who are showing a clear preference toward Blu-ray products and movies with their purchases. With the customers best interest in all we do, we wanted to share our decision and timeline with them as soon as possible, knowing it will help simplify their purchase decision, increase selection, and increase adoption long term. We anticipate enhancing our selection with continued great values in hi-definition Blu-ray products, so our customers can further enhance their entertainment experience at home."

I know that some of you are not fans of bluray.com but I frequent the site almost as often as I've been here. So don't flame the messenger.

BTW: I hate walmart

Uni

[Post edited by unieye on Feb 15, 2008]

It makes complete sense... Toshiba had a chance to run slick ads.. They didn't. They had a chance to play word games about how much better "their" HD was... They didn't. They had chance after chance to cut checks to the hollywood studios. They didn't.

You can't stand in the corner claiming yours is better, and hope anyone hears you. You gotta push your product in the faces of the masses.

Well, I guess Toshiba has to just sell regular upconverting players and make them HD DVD compatible (but shhh... don't tell anyone).

WHAT choice do consumers really have when most of the movies or rentals they want only come in blu ? THAT`s not a consumers choice market, its forcing a format....

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It makes complete sense... Toshiba had a chance to run slick ads.. They didn't. They had a chance to play word games about how much better "their" HD was... They didn't. They had chance after chance to cut checks to the hollywood studios. They didn't.

I agree, but that's not what I'm saying. Stores are dropping HD DVD players because they *think* that's all they play. If that's not true, then they would still sell them just like they still sell upconverting DVD players.

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SONY is a devil company! A lot worst than Microsoft! SONY need to go to hell!!!!!

Yeah, as if SONY is the only company in the world to ever make profit by using "evil" tactics! As I've said, if I were to boycott a business based on the fact that I thought they were "evil", I'd never put gas in my car again.

IMO, ALL businesses pull dirty tactics to stay afloat and that's just the way BUSINESS WORKS! For the love of pete, you want to be pissed and shout at a company, then do it where it makes more sense and is more useful. Bitching about SONY is a waste of breath when companies like Exxon, Shell, Mobil Oil, Chevron and Texaco are getting away with real crimes.

To late Kucoloco, more are at the dock.

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Tim, it IS still hearsay.

No . . . actually, IT’S INEVITABLE!!!!

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Exxon, Shell, Mobil Oil, Chevron and Texaco are getting away with real crimes.

Yeah Tim I find it a lot more offensive that oil companies "buy" people's alternate fuel research just so it can never see the light of day. Then go on commercials saying "well no one buys more alternate fuel research then us."

Seriously I wish people got this upset about Politics, the war in Darfur, or something else that really matters instead of little shiny discs.

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Bitching about SONY is a waste of breath when companies like Exxon, Shell, Mobil Oil, Chevron and Texaco are getting away with real crimes.

Quite true and very sad in fact. What's really sad is that we're all sitting around bitching and moaning bout Film Formats while those companies are sleeping with satan.

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Bitching about SONY is a waste of breath when companies like Exxon, Shell, Mobil Oil, Chevron and Texaco are getting away with real crimes.

Tim, I have to ask you to refrain from putting things into perspective on this board. You just ruin it for everyone!

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I agree, but that's not what I'm saying. Stores are dropping HD DVD players because they *think* that's all they play. If that's not true, then they would still sell them just like they still sell upconverting DVD players.

I don't think that that's the reason. I believe the entire electronics/film industry is realizing that HD DVD and Blu Ray's battle is not allowing the consumer (your average consumer) to adopt the technology. It's a less is more approach. By only having a single format, player, movie, more people will choose the technology. HOPEFULLY it will result in lower prices and more movie choices for everyone.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but this is starting to look like one large ass snowball effect. Each one of these is going to make Toshiba look worse and worse. They should pull the plug before it starts effecting their general business (which it may or may not have already).

The studios are going to be next (and I'm going to guess very soon at that .. days not weeks..guessing) if Toshiba dosen't pull the plug. Without the major retailers to sell their movies they are also going to be forced to port over to Blu.

Sorry to sound so blu (pun intended).

Uni

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Tim, I have to ask you to refrain from putting things into perspective on this board. You just ruin it for everyone!

LMAO!!!!

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I HATE SONY! THEY EAT UP all the market!
They kill Dreamcast with Playstation,
they try to kill Gameboy with PSP,
they try to kill CD with MD,
they Kill SD card with memory stick,
They kill motorola with sony erricson,
they now kill Toshiba with Bluray.

SONY is a devil company! A lot worst than Microsoft! SONY need to go to hell!!!!!

Are you feeling alright there bud? You really need to find an outlet for all that pent-up aggression.

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By only having a single format, player, movie, more people will choose the technology. HOPEFULLY it will result in lower prices and more movie choices for everyone.

I hope so, but having no competition doesn't give them any incentive to lower prices. If anything, I'd expect the prices to rise and you can kiss all the BOGO sales goodbye.

It's sad that the industry is dead set on having a single format. I mean we have Pepsi and Coke, yet they are still both colas with little difference. And what difference does it make having an additional disc out there for consumers? They already have 1-disc editions, 2-disc editions, 3-disc editions in standard DVD alone. It's not like it would hurt anyone, but oh well.

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I hope so, but having no competition doesn't give them any incentive to lower prices.

The competition will be other manufatuer's making players -- pretty much what we already have with DVD.

Toshiba should give it a few more months and see how Beta ray cope in the courts. It's only a mater of time before news gets round about the fact you will have to buy a new Beta ray player every year. I mean, $ony are talking about profile 3.0 now.

moonblade... you should read some of the DVDTOWN Blu-ray reviews by editor James Plath - who uses the original Samsung Blu-ray player (designed almost 2 years ago), for his Blu-ray movie discs. He's kept up with the firmware updates and can still watch the movies... so NO NEED TO BUY A NEW PLAYER EVERY YEAR (so uninformed!).

-LH (The Loverboy)

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It's sad that the industry is dead set on having a single format. I mean we have Pepsi and Coke, yet they are still both colas with little difference. And what difference does it make having an additional disc out there for consumers? They already have 1-disc editions, 2-disc editions, 3-disc editions in standard DVD alone. It's not like it would hurt anyone, but oh well.

You know, this is an area that really interests me. If you take a look at the gaming console arena. There are multiple formats, and although one system may sell better then another, it would appear that all the players in the market thrive (perhaps I'm wrong stating this). Why can this not hold true in the film market? Certainly some consoles have their exclusives but you are seeing more and more multi-platform games coming to market. Or better yet, why doesn't the console market demand a single platform? I would imagine development costs for software developers would decrease and probably 100s of other reasons to move to a single platform.

Sorry, boring day at work for me today.

Uni

I would not believe a word of what a "reliable spinsider" has to say, if there is any truth to this at all.

Why didn't Paramount and Universal go Blu exclusive before the end of CES 2008 as was reported that they would do??

Sources close to the negotiations all said that was what would happen, how were they wrong???

All these opt out clauses, and supposed warehouses of Paraversal Blu Ray releases already manufactured that would be on the shelves by January 8th???

Some Sony crap about the PS3 having a 100% RELIABILITY RECORD, and 9 OUT OF 10 XBOX360's DEAD OUT OF THE BOX??

All from these "INDUSTRY INSIDER", "EXTREMELY RELIABLE", "FIRST PARTY CLOSE TO THE NEGOTIATIONS", "SSHHH, I AM KEN GRAFFEO, AND UNDER A NON-DISCLOSURE, BUT HERE IS A SPOILER, JUST DON'T TELL ANYONE WHO TOLD YOU" Bull$#!t has been running around not just HDM but every other industry in the world for YEARS.

NASA faked the Moon landings, and they are keeping Hitler's Brain Alive In A Jar.

Sure I heard that HD DVD is dead and Toshiba is pulling the plug too, but at least I heard it from Martha Stewart, who got the tip from her "INSIDER STOCKBROKER PAL" telling her to dump her Toshiba Stock today, so you know it has to be true.

Press conference at Toshiba HQ 5 PM today!!! TRUST ME!!!

OH wait, TOSHIBA is in JAPAN, it's 2AM SATURDAY MORNING THERE ALREADY, HOW CAN THIS BE???

But Martha was sounding so sure...

The press conference already happened, they must have it on tape delay to give Toshiba execs time to commit suicide before it airs.


If true, plan to see Sony cancel ALL of their co-licensing agreements, and emerge as the only Blu Ray player manufacturer.

Why do they need competition if they are the one??

The entry level PS3 system will move up to $999, standalone players $1499, and the Blu discs will retail at $59.99 each.

Cancel BD-J interactivity and BD revision 1.1 or 2.0, there will be no competitive demand to force them to implement it.

You won't see another BOGO again either, sorry.

Actually, Sony is going to buy the HD DVD name from Toshiba and change the Blu Ray name to HD DVD, because they didn't like that Blu Ray name from the start, and Toshiba already had copyrighted HD DVD.




Sad story for all, as this is how Sony always operates, and we can only expect more of the same from them in the future.

Hold on to your SD DVD's, as they are going to be around for a reeeeally long time.

Oh, and cancel my Netflix subscription too, they just announced that they are dropping DVD for VHS because the US Postal Service machines don't shred the mailers as much.


Never did like VHS much, the clock always had me confused, I thought it was dinner time but it always said it was 12:00, 12:00, 12:00, 12:00....


It all doesn't matter anyway, we all know that Nostradamus has predicted that the world will end in 2012, and his predictions curiously always come true..

[Post edited by VideoCipher on Feb 15, 2008]

Unfortunately, it looks like the end is coming. Wal-Mart is dropping HD DVD support!!

VideoCipher said -

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"If true, plan to see Sony cancel ALL of their co-licensing agreements, and emerge as the only Blu Ray player manufacturer.

Why do they need competition if they are the one??

The entry level PS3 system will move up to $999, standalone players $1499, and the Blu discs will retail at $59.99 each.

Cancel BD-J interactivity and BD revision 1.1 or 2.0, there will be no competitive demand to force them to implement it."

Gosh, do you have to insult your own intelligence, with the above FUD? If what you say above were to happen, Blu-ray would disappear from consumer adoption overnight! Of course, Sony has more 'smarts' than you.

-LH (The Loverboy)

Hendrix, I think VideoCipher is just upset and grieving. So it's best to let the guy vent regardless of the content of his posts IMO. But if he has an XA2 plus movies to sell on the cheap, I might be very interested.

guffaw guffaw lol lol lol

this is the best ever
hurry up and go away smelly HD-DUD

and remember people,NEVER NEVER EVER BUY ANY OF TOSHITBAS BLU-RAY PLAYERS(when they make em)

infact it would be best for all if SONY and the rest of the BDA simply didnt allow TOSHITBA to use the technology at all----EVER

mr_p-ness... you might want to read what I posted ^just above^...

Gosh, do you have to insult your own intelligence, with the above FUD? (this applies to you too)

-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)
-my new nickname-

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Feb 15, 2008]

Hendrix, come on man. A 5 year old can tell that entire post was tongue in cheek. I expected better out of you.

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guffaw guffaw lol lol lol

this is the best ever
hurry up and go away smelly HD-DUD

and remember people,NEVER NEVER EVER BUY ANY OF TOSHITBAS BLU-RAY PLAYERS(when they make em)

infact it would be best for all if SONY and the rest of the BDA simply didnt allow TOSHITBA to use the technology at all----EVER

I've done plenty of research, and I think the only Blu-Ray player I would buy is if Toshiba put one out since all the ones currently available either aren't 1.1 compliant or have terrible upconversion (according to reviews).

Not interested in a PlayStation either, so that's not an option for me.

[Post edited by hoodaguy on Feb 15, 2008]

WELL I GUESS YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO GO WITHOUT--WHICH INCIDENTLY, DONT BOTHER ME
Blu-ray news

BDA Praises Wal-Mart On Blu-ray Exclusivity
Posted February 15, 2008 by Josh

The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) US Promotions Committee chairman Andy Parsons has released a statement regarding Wal-Mart's announcement that beginning this June they will be exclusively supporting Blu-ray: "Retailers have a tremendous impact on consumer preferences, and as the world's largest retailer, Wal-Mart's reach and leadership are unparalleled. Their decision to support only Blu-ray, particularly in light of the string of similar announcements from the content and retail communities over the last six weeks, seems to us to be a very clear statement that Blu-ray Disc has emerged as the format of choice for high definition home entertainment."

The following is a time line released by the BDA to show the impact of Warner Brothers' decision to exclusively support Blu-ray. While it highlights the major moves in the home video industry, it should not be considered complete. Many smaller, but no less important, moves were made during the past six weeks, which readers of this site very familiar with.

1/5: Warner Bros. announces exclusive Blu-ray support

1/28: Gartner announces “HD DVD's price cuts only prolong agony”

1/29: Woolworths, a leading U.K. retailer, announced it would offer exclusive in-store support for Blu-ray beginning in March

1/30: Sonic announced that it will focus its R&D resources on Blu-ray and will conclude sales of its HD DVD authoring product line

1/30: National Geographic announced it will no longer release titles in the HD DVD format

2/11: Netflix announces that, citing a clear signal from the industry, it will only carry Blu-ray Discs and will phase out HD-DVD

2/11: Best Buy announces it will recommend Blu-Ray as the Customer's Digital Format Choice

2/15: Wal-Mart announces that y June 2008, Wal-Mart and Sam's Clubs stores will carry Blu-ray only


OH,AND ALL THE REST TOO

[Post edited by mr_p-ness on Feb 15, 2008]

GKing said -

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"A 5 year old can tell that the entire post was tongue in cheek. I expected better out of you."

Well, you're a 'newbie' here so I understand your opinion. But have you read this guy's other posts here recently? - there ya go! He earned my criticism.

-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)
-my new nickname-

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and remember people,NEVER NEVER EVER BUY ANY OF TOSHITBAS BLU-RAY PLAYERS(when they make em)

infact it would be best for all if SONY and the rest of the BDA simply didnt allow TOSHITBA to use the technology at all----EVER

1. Toshiba would be the one to get for sure...

2. If this was the case in any previous format war Sony never would have sold any VHS or DVD player.

Easy guys, I'm not getting rid of my 2 HD DVD players or any of my HD DVD movie collection.

I am still waiting for Toshiba to send out the Magic Bullet that turns all existing HD DVD players into bricks to make existing HD DVD's all unplayable, oh wait that was the firmware release they just made available, if you installed it already, the 15-day clock has already started ticking.

Another concession to Sony to force everyone to scrap their HD DVD collection and re-purchase it on Blu Ray, they are offering a 99 cent trade in discount for each HD DVD to put towards the purchase of new Blu Ray discs

Fortunately, $ony seems to have found my defective PS3 and I should see it returned sometime next week, so I can look forward to another month of use out of it before it breaks again.

Glad I was able to pick a PS3 up for only $499 before Christmas, because when Toshiba throws in the towel I can't afford that $1000 price tag that $ony is going to be putting on them.

I should be getting a few of those BOGO Blu Ray discs I ordered from Amazon soon as well, I'll never see BD prices like that again.

Monopolies are a wonderful thing you know....

Big hats off to Sony, they have done a wonderful thing to support HD Video on Demand and HD Movie Downloads.

Why buy $60 Blu discs when you can download the same content from your favorite Torrent site for free, right ???

Just because I'm new to posting doesn't mean I haven't been reading what's been posted for the past 6-8 months.

well Love Hendrix! ,alas i am not,in anyway concerned or bothered about your reactions to my posts,if you like or dislike that's upto you

i find your posts to be very,,,,,errrrrrm-"im love hendrix and im omnipotent and all knowing,I AM NEVER WRONG",,,,,yeah,,,,,thats how i see your posts,BUT i dont complain

anyway HENDRIX, great guitarist,,ATROCIOUS vocalist

p-ness, then please show me a non-console 1.1 compliant Blu-Ray player that has upconversion comparable to Toshiba's HD players.

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HENDRIX, great guitarist,,ATROCIOUS vocalist

You mean he was trying to sing?????
OMG, all this time I thought that was somebody trying to skin a cat alive!

i dont bother with upconversion.
seems to defeat the point of HD media.why bother with a hd-dvd or blu-ray at all

so then...you're just a jackass?

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i dont bother with upconversion.
seems to defeat the point of HD media.why bother with a hd-dvd or blu-ray at all

Ah, then that's your problem. There's only a small amount of titles available in either format, so upconversion is very important -- especially for those of us who already have extensive DVD libraries.

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p-ness, then please show me a non-console 1.1 compliant Blu-Ray player that has upconversion comparable to Toshiba's HD players.

FYI, my first generation Philips BDP9000 does a phenomenal job at upconverting DVD's and it's far from being profile 1.1. But that's beside the point. Why are Toshiba fanboys always hung up on trivial features that are actually petty meaningless in the greater scheme of things. Honestly, who cares about DVD upconversion when we're dealing with true high-def formats. Kind of defeats the purpose don't you think?

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so then...you're just a jackass?

Looks like you have a lot to contribute to this thread.

whats a jackass? im not from the USofGREED&CORRUPTION so i dont find it offensive,only mildly funny.






so anyway.like i said why bother with the new HD media? lets just watch SD-DVD upconverted.which in turn renders the whole format war,a carbon copy of the war on terror,,,a waste of money and a farce.
tell you what though,,,,you show me any HD-DVD player that will be able to play HD media this time next year
but dont worry,you can just buy SD-DVDs and UPconvert em

"I'm never gonna' dance again. A wasted chance that I'd been given . . "

my god wham
this picture bothers me,there is something wrong,,,with it

good to know that only american c*%k is good enough for old george

Tim that is just wrong!!! I almost ruined a perfectly good coke and keyboard. Not to mention that I'm never gonna dance again. LOL

[Post edited by GKing74 on Feb 15, 2008]

I think it's funny how I asked a simple question, and none of you provided an adequate answer. Is it wrong for me to want to buy a player that not only plays high-definition movies, but will also upconvert my standard DVDs well?

Instead, all you've done is resorted to the fanboy name-calling. Just goes to show who the *real* fanboys are...

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I think it's funny how I asked a simple question, and none of you provided an adequate answer. Is it wrong for me to want to buy a player that not only plays high-definition movies, but will also upconvert my standard DVDs well?

Instead, all you've done is resorted to the fanboy name-calling. Just goes to show who the *real* fanboys are...

Apparently you missed what I said about 6 posts ago. Anyway, I'm not repeating myself.

ohh GROW UP
your'e not important

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Apparently you missed what I said about 6 posts ago. Anyway, I'm not repeating myself.

I saw your post. I'm just saying that if I'm going to be spending $400-$500 on a player, I expect value for my money. I want good-quality upconversion for my standard DVDs, and 1.1 compliancy since I am going to be paying for the special features when I buy a Blu-Ray disc.

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ohh GROW UP
your'e not important

Sounds like somebody needs to take their own advice... I am asking serious questions, and all you're doing is dodging them with uninformative comments.

Oh, and my username isn't "p-ness" either...

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I saw your post. I'm just saying that if I'm going to be spending $400-$500 on a player, I expect value for my money. I want good-quality upconversion for my standard DVDs, and 1.1 compliancy since I am going to be paying for the special features when I buy a Blu-Ray disc.

I actually bought my BDP9000 for $220 brand new on Ebay, and I've been using it for about 9 months now. I am very happy with it since I've already watched about 180-190 movies in that span. I got all the mileage I needed out of it, and I'll be giving it to my parents soon. I'm just about ready to upgrade to a new player, and I have my eyes set on either the Panasonic DMP-BD50 or the Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD. They're both impressive spec wise.

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Think of it this way. Let's say Fox and WB went HD DVD and Blu-Ray lost the war. Would stores stop selling the PlayStation 3? Of course not.

This is what is bugging me more than anything. I can understand that HD DVD lost the format war, but for stores to stop selling their players is baffling. It's like they think they only play HD DVDs and nothing more, which is a completely false perception.

Well, Sony paid a lot for that perception. I think Karl Rove is their advertising chief. Spread enough lies , filter in enough truth, and people believe everything you say. Someone said on some other board how this has not gotten a consumer protection issue brought about as all the story posts tend to be fabrications beforehand, lead to a downturn in sales, and bring about a reality after the fact. THAT is a dishonest sales tactic. Really, prefer the pluses of Blu Ray if you must, but they've done some pretty ass things to get on top...FAR more than HD-DVD.

upconvert this----upconvert that

just go and buy an upconverting sd-dvd player,then you wont feel so bad about the DUMD decision you made to by HD-DUD(lol)

[Post edited by mr_p-ness on Feb 15, 2008]

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Looks like you have a lot to contribute to this thread.

Gosh, you're so right, because mr. p-ness (fantastically mature name, BTW) certainly does.

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upconvert this----upconvert that

just go and buy an upconverting sd-dvd player,then you wont feel so bad about the DUMD decision you made to by HD-DUD(lol)

Kids, stay in school.

[Post edited by hoodaguy on Feb 15, 2008]

oops sorry hoodaboy
just been to the crapper,and after wiping my ass and looking at the turd(s) floating around in there it kinda reminded me of your posts

[Post edited by mr_p-ness on Feb 15, 2008]

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Gosh, you're so right, because mr. p-ness (fantastically mature name, BTW) certainly does.

Calling someone a jackass because they have a differing opinion than you is very mature indeed.

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oops sorry hoodaboy
just been to the crapper,and after wiping my ass and looking at the turd(s) floating around in there it kinda reminded me of your posts

Thanks for continuing to prove me right!

Once again: kids PLEASE stay in school.

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oops sorry hoodaboy
just been to the crapper,and after wiping my ass and looking at the turd(s) floating around in there it kinda reminded me of your posts

"I don't remember eating any corn?!"

hoodaguy, why is upconversion such an important argument when you already have an HDDVD player that does this any way?

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hoodaguy, why is upconversion such an important argument when you already have an HDDVD player that does this any way?

I believe to hoodaguy a high definition image = upconverted DVD. So he is actually right in keeping his HD DVD player for the foreseeable future, since in a few months that's all that he'll be doing with that player. Upconverting DVD's.

[Post edited by gvortex7 on Feb 15, 2008]

HD & BLU is now a dinosaur format !!! We all wasted our money...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video

http://whathifi.com/television/archive/2007/05/28/news-japanese
-broadcaster-makes-super-hd-system-more-viable.aspx

[Post edited by motogp34 on Feb 15, 2008]

Moto... that camera is Freacking SCARY! I would hate to be the Camera man who has to set it up and tear it down.

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I believe to hoodaguy a high definition image = upconverted DVD. So he is actually right in keeping his HD DVD player for the foreseeable future, since in a few months that's all that he'll be doing with that player. Upconverting DVD's.

And what do you think you will be using your ps3 for once it breaks down from being used for more tasks than it was originally designed for? At least the hd player will still play movies. And don't forget Sony's wonderful track record on playstation customer service (see also - Sony's denial of ps2 disc read error and Sony BMG CEO's mockery of consumers regarding music drm). Its o.k. though. Toshiba will still get paid since you'll have to buy a new ps3 or pay to get your old one replaced. Guess who is in charge of all of those cell processor chips that will be needed for your new ps3? Yeah. its Toshiba. Taunting other people is really silly since everything comes back around eventually.

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And what do you think you will be using your ps3 for once it breaks down from being used for more tasks than it was originally designed for? At least the hd player will still play movies. And don't forget Sony's wonderful track record on playstation customer service (see also - Sony's denial of ps2 disc read error and Sony BMG CEO's mockery of consumers regarding music drm). Its o.k. though. Toshiba will still get paid since you'll have to buy a new ps3 or pay to get your old one replaced. Guess who is in charge of all of those cell processor chips that will be needed for your new ps3? Yeah. its Toshiba. Taunting other people is really silly since everything comes back around eventually.

I'm not gonna get into it with you chemteam, because there is usually no use reasoning with HD DVD fans. You think you're right, I know I'm right, but in the end there will be no right or wrong. There will j