HD-DVD lost the HD battle, but the war is not over yet...

So it is 99% sure that HD-DVD has lost this HD battle but I think the real war is only about to begin. Now BD has to compete and dethrone the original, the one and only, the DVD. We should not forget that HD-DVD was adopted by the international DVD Forum as the next-generation DVD standard.

Do BD supporters mean to tell me, and expect me to believe, that the International DVD Forum is just going to give up and concede the entertainment industry to Sony and its BD? I think not. We musn't forget that DVD is the current standard going still strong. DVD has over 90,000 available with at least 5 to 7 new DVD's being release or re-release every week. DVD has the 100% market base in America and the world (high definition owners still have their movies in SD thanks to upconversion) and in the US, according to a study conducted by the NDP consumer group, 70% of people are perfectly content with their DVD and have no intention of going high def.

In the gaming arena, besides the PS3 (obviously), all the other consoles (XBOX 360, Wii, and PS2) use DVD media as well as PC gaming. Heck, even most of the PC games are still CD. Even if Microsoft were to create a BD drive for the XBOX 360, it would be for movie viewing purposes and not for gaming.

In the stablished BD home base, do the current BD owners are honestly happy to know that they have to buy a brand new player in order to have all the features that current HD-DVD owners already have? Do you BD fans realise that once the version 2.0 (or whatever you call it) come out all the studios will make BD disks supporting the version and most likely won't be fully compatible with your current BD players? After all, current owners won't be able to update their firmware to 2.0 for the current BD players won't be compatible with the 2.0 version. So be ready to shell out another $600 or more by the end of the year or whenever 2.0 and the new BD movies comes out.

Reality check! BD is facing an uphill battle versus DVD. If at least half of the current HD-DVD owners think like me, plus all the hundreds of million of happy S-DVD owners around the globe, I know most people will be sticking with S-DVD's thanks to upconverting players and won't make the jump to BD until the real fat lady (the international DVD Forum) sings and stops support and production of S-DVD's.

wii-lite, enjoy your standard DVDs then. I'm sure they're fine on a standard TV from an adequately far away seating distance. But please stop it with the dumb threads. OK?

Gosh, wil-lite... yet another FUD thread?

There is no law forcing you to buy Blu-ray, WL!

-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)

I've learned to disregard the statements in his posts and instead just comment on the fact that he did'nt edit this very long post not once. That way you're not paying attention to what he's saying because your actually admiring at the fact that he does actually Proof Reads.

EDIT: Dang, this whole chest muscle thing hurts when I laugh.lol

[Post edited by tony1569 on Feb 16, 2008]

I enjoy reading your posts wii-lite. Are you by any chance into soap operas?

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I've learned to disregard the statements in his posts

How do you know this isn't a girl?

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I've learned to disregard the statements in his posts and instead just comment one the fact that he did'nt edite this very long post not once. That way you're not paying attention to what he's saying because your actually admiring at the fact that he does actually Proof Reads.

EDIT: Dang, this whole chest muscle thing hurts when I laugh.lol

Now that's funny, idk whether to say thanks or be offended by it. lol j/k

Now listen LH, this thread is just an educated guess based on facts and what history has taught us. I'm sure you are concern that BD might end up like your "beloved Laser Disk" did 25 years ago when it beat CED but it couldn't compete with VHS, but that doesn't take away the fact that it could happen to BD too. I think that HD-DVD would've been in the same situation if it had won! Sure, the DVD Forum supports/ed it, but the reality is that the S-DVD is still good and it has a very strong commercial base worldwide, and even HD-DVD would've had a hard time competing with its older brother.

My opening statement in this thread only reflects one side of the coin and is only a hypothesis (a very strong one if I may add), I could give you a powerfull statement on how BD will have a happy ending but that'll be as bad (if not even worse) as my fear, uncertainty, and doubt comments you think I'm making. Claiming that BD will have a rose, happy trail from here on is also misleading and vague at best.

The only reason why you think I'm crying FUD is because yourself have FUD on BD. I mean, it happened to LD, who says it can happen to BD? Remember, there are only two things certain in this world: Death and taxes.

[Post edited by wii-lite on Feb 16, 2008]

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Now that's funny, idk whether to say thanks or be offended by it. lol j/k )

Now listen LH, this thread is just an educated guess based on the facts and what history has taught us. I'm sure you are concern that BD might end up like your "beloved Laser Disk" did 25 years ago when it beat CED but it cound't compete with VHS, but that doesn't take away the fact that it could happen to BD too. I think that HD-DVD would've been in the same situation if it had won! Sure, the DVD Forum supports/ed it, but the reality is that the S-DVD is still good and it has a very strong commertial base worldwide., and even HD-DVD would've had a hard time competing with its older brother.

My opening statement in this thread only reflects one side of the coin and is only a hypothesis (a very strong one if I may add), I could give you a powerfull statement on how BD will have a happy ending but that'll be as bad (if not even worse) as my fear, uncertainty, and doubt comments you think I'm making. Claiming that BD will have a rose, happy trail from here on is also misleading and vague at best.

The only reason why you think I'm crying FUD is because yourself have FUD on BD. I mean, it happened to LD, who says it can happen to BD? Remember, there are only two things certain in this world: Death and taxes. )

It's not that it COULD happen, but rather that you want that to happen to Blu-ray. Let's be clear about that part.

wil-lite said -

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"I mean, it happened to LD, who says it can happen to BD? Remember, there are only two things certain in this world: Death and taxes."

Well, "Death and taxes" ...and standard DVD.

As for my beloved LD, it 'died' as the forced result of DVD adoption (and improved digital quality), and I understand that is the 'nature' of the business (and the studios who stopped releasing LD content in 1999, and 2000 in Japan).

Blu-ray has the clear chance to become a success (regardless of opposing fanboy FUD ), and I look forward to enjoying the hi-def future on disc, and hope many others will be adopting into it as well. Those concerned about the current 'issue' with profiles/BD+/BD-Java, just wait awhile while the industry gets the situation resolved. They've already started addressing things with the new BluFocus industry standards.

-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Feb 16, 2008]

Not surprised to see, BR guys bash this thread... Sorry guys.