Monday, February 18, 2008
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....Although Toshiba is currently assessing its business strategies, no decision has been made at this moment
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=33204
Monday, February 18, 2008
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Toshiba will have to pull off a miracle. 
Yeah 
Not going to happen. 
Yeah Not going to happen.
Monday, February 18, 2008
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And it sure got quiet around here now that Toshiba has issued denials to all the news rumors being taken as the word of God over the past weekend.
They are still assessing the marketplace, same as last week, same as last month.
They are making it quite clear that they have made no definite decisions as of yet.
I guess that $ony and the BDA had to cancel this mornings victory speeches like HD DVD canceled their CES press conference...
They are still assessing the marketplace, same as last week, same as last month.
They are making it quite clear that they have made no definite decisions as of yet.
I guess that $ony and the BDA had to cancel this mornings victory speeches like HD DVD canceled their CES press conference...
Monday, February 18, 2008
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Dude unless Toshiba and Microsoft buy a bunch of movie studios, HD DVD is dead.
Monday, February 18, 2008
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Dude unless Toshiba and Microsoft buy a bunch of movie studios, HD DVD is dead.
Exactly. They have virtually no studio and retail support. I was one of the final HD-DVD supports to remain hopeful, but I don't see what could be done to save the format now.
I think I'm just going to stick with standard DVDs for now as I have zero interest in going Blu. I'm probably going to buy that HD VMD player from PCRush. Not so much to support HD VMD, but because it's an upconverting DVD player that I could potentially buy reasonably priced HD movies for, if I so choose.
Monday, February 18, 2008
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Just as it takes time to implement a new technology it also takes time to discontinue a technology already invested in specially if several partners are involved in the project. It was easy for Nintendo and Sega to drop their Virtua Boy and Dreamcast (respectively) because they were the main and only company involved in all the logistics of production, marketing, sales, and distribution of their product. With HD-DVD we have not only Toshiba, Universal, and Paramount/Dreamcast but also HP, Acer, Venturer, Microsoft, Intel, the DVD Forum, and any other company involved in Europe too (Studio Canal, etc.).
So there are a lot of companies which will be affected by the demise of HD-DVD, so all of them are getting together (I'm sure they started when WB announced its desicion back in January) to talk the strategy that will be most benefitial not only to them as companies, but also for the consumer because there'll a lot of disgrunted consumers who might try to take out their fustration on toshiba and its partners. So a lot of bad publicity might come their way.
So I don't think will hear from Toshiba on HD-DVD's final breath any time soon at least not for a couple of weeks.
So there are a lot of companies which will be affected by the demise of HD-DVD, so all of them are getting together (I'm sure they started when WB announced its desicion back in January) to talk the strategy that will be most benefitial not only to them as companies, but also for the consumer because there'll a lot of disgrunted consumers who might try to take out their fustration on toshiba and its partners. So a lot of bad publicity might come their way.
So I don't think will hear from Toshiba on HD-DVD's final breath any time soon at least not for a couple of weeks.
Monday, February 18, 2008
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I still don't buy into their rumors of recalling every unsold HD DVD player and destroying all of the existing unsold discs by March 1st.
The existing disc inventory will be sold, the existing player inventory will be sold.
No HD DVD exclusive studio has any reason to destroy all existing HD DVD media, no retailers have any reason to recall and destroy any existing HD DVD player stock.
No studio has any reason to terminate manufacture of any of the already released HD DVD discs.
Worst case HD DVD will live on in the HD DVD-ROM market for PC data usage.
The rumors of the armed death squads of SWAT teams going door to door to confiscate and destroy anything related to HD DVD is completely absurd....
Toshiba might exit the current market, but to destroy existing hardware and software is insane, even by a Paid Blu Shill statement.
Toshiba should dump any existing HD DVD player stock onto the existing HDM market, and studios should continue to support their existing HD DVD titles until their current stock is depleted.
Then everyone needs to step back and re-access the HDM consumer marketplace.
These stories of people attempting to liquidate their existing HD DVD hardware and software on EBAY at the last minute is pure lunacy.
25 years from now, I will still be able to power up my HD DVD player, and still be able to watch any of the currently released HD DVD media without any problems.
I believe there are already more than 400 released HD DVD titles, and I see no reason to re-purchase them on Blu Ray as long as functioning HD DVD players still exist.
What do the Blu Fear Mongers have to say to that???
Sorry, but my current HD DVD library will live on far beyond the lifespan of anything $ony releases on Blu-Rape..
I am one of those "Format Neutral" consumers, and I still can't get certain Blu titles to play on my refurbished PS3 that I received today.
Evidently $ony has not figured out how to repair their own Blu Format Game Consoles, I am upgraded to v 2.01 on my second PS3 since Christmas, and it still does not work properly....
Oh yea, Bill Hunt over at da' Digital Bits is a $ony paid tool.
Sorry, I had to add that last point...
The existing disc inventory will be sold, the existing player inventory will be sold.
No HD DVD exclusive studio has any reason to destroy all existing HD DVD media, no retailers have any reason to recall and destroy any existing HD DVD player stock.
No studio has any reason to terminate manufacture of any of the already released HD DVD discs.
Worst case HD DVD will live on in the HD DVD-ROM market for PC data usage.
The rumors of the armed death squads of SWAT teams going door to door to confiscate and destroy anything related to HD DVD is completely absurd....
Toshiba might exit the current market, but to destroy existing hardware and software is insane, even by a Paid Blu Shill statement.
Toshiba should dump any existing HD DVD player stock onto the existing HDM market, and studios should continue to support their existing HD DVD titles until their current stock is depleted.
Then everyone needs to step back and re-access the HDM consumer marketplace.
These stories of people attempting to liquidate their existing HD DVD hardware and software on EBAY at the last minute is pure lunacy.
25 years from now, I will still be able to power up my HD DVD player, and still be able to watch any of the currently released HD DVD media without any problems.
I believe there are already more than 400 released HD DVD titles, and I see no reason to re-purchase them on Blu Ray as long as functioning HD DVD players still exist.
What do the Blu Fear Mongers have to say to that???
Sorry, but my current HD DVD library will live on far beyond the lifespan of anything $ony releases on Blu-Rape..
I am one of those "Format Neutral" consumers, and I still can't get certain Blu titles to play on my refurbished PS3 that I received today.
Evidently $ony has not figured out how to repair their own Blu Format Game Consoles, I am upgraded to v 2.01 on my second PS3 since Christmas, and it still does not work properly....
Oh yea, Bill Hunt over at da' Digital Bits is a $ony paid tool.
Sorry, I had to add that last point...
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
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Like Sony or not please stfu with your idiot fanboyism. Your idiot posts are a half a page long in every thread going off about Sony and blowing HD DVD. I have more HD DVD's then BD before you go off about that tool.
[Post edited by treats on Feb 19, 2008]
[Post edited by treats on Feb 19, 2008]
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
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VideoCipher said -
Don't be so sure about that. It could easily NOT happen. Similar situation here...
I remember when the LaserDisc format 'died' for lack of studio support (new releases) back in late 1998 thru the summer of 1999 (and into 2000 for Japan). Much of the existing inventory of LaserDisc movies was in the control of Image Entertainment (a well-known distributor of LaserDiscs for the studios), who has many DVDs available, and recently announced content for both HD-DVD and Blu-ray - SAMPLE NEW RELEASE here.
Image had always been selling LDs on their online store, kencranes.com (no longer active), and for about 18 months the company was still selling new/sealed LDs, at bargain prices between $4.99 to $19.99 (most were $9.99), during this late 1990s time. Well, all of a sudden, the company announced an immediate suspension of LD sales, despite the fact they still had multiple copies still in stock of several hundred titles.
So, what did they do? It was reported by California sources (where the company was located) that Image actually hired a crew to physically destroy the discs, so they could write-them-off as a business deduction expense (etc). The point being that one day the company stopped distribution - THE END. They were one of the last sources for new/sealed content, although a few other dealers kept stock too, as I was regularly buying discounted titles.
In my area, a local store here in Houston (Audio Video Plus, on Waugh Dr in the River Oaks area), has kept selling the Laserdiscs they've had in stock ever since the format ended anyway (although I haven't visited the store since 2006).
Back to HD-DVD... Toshiba and the studios can easily issue a recall (or stock return) of existing new/sealed titles at retail, and then the only ones you may be able to find are by 3rd party sellers/individuals on ebay.com, half.ebay.com, amazon.com, etc.
-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)
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"The existing disc inventory will be sold, the existing player inventory will be sold."
Don't be so sure about that. It could easily NOT happen. Similar situation here...
I remember when the LaserDisc format 'died' for lack of studio support (new releases) back in late 1998 thru the summer of 1999 (and into 2000 for Japan). Much of the existing inventory of LaserDisc movies was in the control of Image Entertainment (a well-known distributor of LaserDiscs for the studios), who has many DVDs available, and recently announced content for both HD-DVD and Blu-ray - SAMPLE NEW RELEASE here.
Image had always been selling LDs on their online store, kencranes.com (no longer active), and for about 18 months the company was still selling new/sealed LDs, at bargain prices between $4.99 to $19.99 (most were $9.99), during this late 1990s time. Well, all of a sudden, the company announced an immediate suspension of LD sales, despite the fact they still had multiple copies still in stock of several hundred titles.
So, what did they do? It was reported by California sources (where the company was located) that Image actually hired a crew to physically destroy the discs, so they could write-them-off as a business deduction expense (etc). The point being that one day the company stopped distribution - THE END. They were one of the last sources for new/sealed content, although a few other dealers kept stock too, as I was regularly buying discounted titles.
In my area, a local store here in Houston (Audio Video Plus, on Waugh Dr in the River Oaks area), has kept selling the Laserdiscs they've had in stock ever since the format ended anyway (although I haven't visited the store since 2006).
Back to HD-DVD... Toshiba and the studios can easily issue a recall (or stock return) of existing new/sealed titles at retail, and then the only ones you may be able to find are by 3rd party sellers/individuals on ebay.com, half.ebay.com, amazon.com, etc.
-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
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Like I said before, even though the war is just about over, you will still be able to get HD DVD until the end of 2008 at least.
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
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IB... what you say may not be true, as there's no guarantee that HD-DVD new releases will continue until the end of this year. As of right now, the only announced titles are scheduled thru May only. Well, there's always imports to consider, too.
-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Feb 19, 2008]
-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Feb 19, 2008]
