Now that the hot war is over, has a cold war begun?

I've read a lot of heated posts over the last few days here from both sides of the HD fence.

Blu-ray fans are shoving HD DVD supporters faces in the dirt.

HD DVD fans are sticking with their format no matter what, vowing never to buy Blu-ray or Sony.

Will this Cold War continue indefinitely, or will we see it fade, perhaps around Christmas time when we will hopefully see more reasonably priced standalone Blu-ray players and a significant number of new releases? Or will summer shine some rays of hope upon us all?

I, for example, would adopt blu-ray as long as they had a 'fully operational' $150 blu-ray player (remember, I bought my 'fully operational' HD-A2 at $98) on the market, that could be upgraded to their future profiles.

One thing that the blu-ray fanboys don't realize, is that Sony now that it doesn't have competition, will slack on their development of blu-ray. Like somebody else said in another post, in the PS3 we get the burden of the blu-ray player. I'm afraid that prices won't go down, and that they might stay the same.

All am looking for is said in this posthttp://www.dvdtown.com/messageboard/topic/6389/6/0.

Again, blu-ray won the HD on disc format war, not the whole HD war, but in my POV, downloads will not take off for another couple of years (even though I have the Microsoft theory in which M$ wanted both formats to lose).

Cold War Indeed

Looks like this one is good for the long haul.

Go read some of the comments over on Amazon, the Blu fanboys are screaming mad that they dare to continue to release HD DVD titles, angry requests that all studios immediately scrap their entire HD DVD inventories, and recall existing shelf stock from all retailers.

Has HD DVD been outlawed??

Somehow announcements of any new HD DVD releases are now considered Blasphemy???

Heck, why not go door to door with a SWAT team and confiscate HD DVD players.

Even if the planning had started last year, you likely won't see any decent Blu releases from Universal or Paramount before the summer, and meanwhile HD DVD's continue to sell at a brisk pace.

Why don't people realize that Universal and Paramount aren't about to walk away from the money they continue to earn from HD DVD sales.

They only went FORMAT NEUTRAL this week, Blu Ray releases will take some time to produce.

Just Relax, everybody will get their Blu Ray copy of Transformers as soon as they actually get a chance to manufacture them.

There will be minor skirmishes in forums now if you are determine to hold on to any anger that your format is no longer around than I feel sorry for you.

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[Post edited by tony1569 on Feb 21, 2008]

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There will be minor skirmishes in forums now if you are determine to hold on to any anger that your format is no longer around than I feel sorry for you.

Dude, What Format is" No Longer Around"???

Do you mean HD DVD??

Toshiba exited the player business, Go yell at LG and Samsung, they are the ones continuing to develop and sell HD DVD players.

Be happy that HD DVD is still around, even if it is only lurking in the shadows, it is the only reason that there are still Blu Ray discount sales.

IF you are a Blu fan, you will soon get every movie title that you want on Blu Ray.

What confuses me is that if you wanted all the studios to support Blu Ray, you got your wish, now why all of the continued bitterness against HD DVD??

Why the continued anger, the hate, the disgust??

If it's because I can buy an HD DVD player for $99, and you have to pay $399 for a Blu Ray one, that is an issue to take up with the BDA and Sony.

The $99 HD DVD players will sell out soon and no longer be available.

Is the idea of a Blu Ray player continuing to cost $399 an issue??

Again, something you need to take up with the BDA and Sony.

I don't understand your anger, but OK, I feel sorry for you as well...

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What confuses me is that if you wanted all the studios to support Blu Ray, you got your wish, now why all of the continued bitterness against HD DVD??

No offense Vcipher but you of all people should not be asking that question. Bitterness is exactly what you've been exhibiting since the February 19th news.

Check this out VC, you're the one with anger issues, ranting in all of your posts. Maybe because you've had two faulty PS3s , I don't know and frankly I really don't care. If you love HDDVD that's your business.

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If it's because I can buy an HD DVD player for $99, and you have to pay $399 for a Blu Ray one, that is an issue to take up with the BDA and Sony.

Why would I care about what you paid for an HDDVD player? If you would've said If it's because I can buy a PS3 for $99, and you have to pay $399 for one, than at least your statement would have made sense.

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[Post edited by tony1569 on Feb 21, 2008]

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Bitterness is exactly what you've been exhibiting since the February 19th news.

Nah, I've been bitter for years...

Of course HD DVD owners are going to feel bitter (for a little while, at least ) at what went down. That's understandable. What is not, however, is some Blu-ray fan's obsession with HD DVD showing any sign of life, rather than shifting their attention towards the joyous moving on with the chosen winner. What HD DVD does now is completely independent of Blu-ray ultimate goal of mainstream adoption by overtaking DVD, but I swear some BDs fans care far more about HD DVD's death than Blu-ray's future. To those haters who have a problem with studios not immediately pulling the plug, stop circling like vultures and let HD DVD be and get on with your own format. Just because Blu-ray won, does not mean HD DVD has to be brain dead. If you're holding your breath for that, you'll probably be disappointed.

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[Post edited by BruceAmes on Feb 21, 2008]

Bruce, I just went tru 57 pages of Blu ray movies on AMAZON, and found nothing that I wanted, I only own 12 discs. After saying that do you actually think I would cry if Blu ray went under, NO. Yes, the mere fact that I own only Blu ray says that I do support the format, but that does'nt mean that I would rub it in an HDDVD supporters face that Toshiba dropped the format. I DON'T DO THAT. Time after time have I mentioned that fact that I wanted an HD-XA2. I was looking at prices for the HD-A35 on AMAZON, I don't need someone who thinks they know me to say that I'm angry about about a format that I own very little of and the other that I never invested in. If he would have read any of my previous post he would've never questioned my post.

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Bruce, I just went tru 57 pages of Blu ray movies on AMAZON, and found nothing that I wanted, I only own 12 discs. After saying that do you actually think I would cry if Blu ray went under, NO. Yes, the mere fact that I own only Blu ray says that I do support the format, but that does'nt mean that I would rub it in an HDDVD supporters face that Toshiba dropped the format. I DON'T DO THAT. Time after time have I mentioned that fact that I wanted an HD-XA2. I was looking at prices for the HD-A35 on AMAZON, I don't need someone who thinks they know me to say that I'm angry about about a format that I own very little of and the other that I never invested in. If he would have read any of my previous post he would've never questioned my post.

No Tony, you're cool. So is Skyhawk and others here. I was referring to the small percentage (maybe 5%) of Blu-ray fans complaining that HD DVD is still getting releases. Who knows, Paramount and Universal may cancel the works tomorrow, but I hope not. I still like the format, so I'll buy what few titles I like that they are good enough to release. I know they don't 'have' to do it, so I'll take it as a gesture of goodwill, and I'll keep it in mind when I buy their movies on Blu-ray. So in that light, the remaining HD DVD studios are actually doing Blu-ray (and themselves) a favor in showing goodwill to HD DVD owners.

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[Post edited by BruceAmes on Feb 21, 2008]

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No Tony, you're cool. So is Skyhawk and others here.

Thanks Bruce, but I don't know about Skyhawk, he has a little bit of TIM the firestarter in him. ONLY JOKING HAWK.

I bought an A35 today!!! $219 in store! I was happy that I actually found one.

ReaggieP, how many players do you own now. You have players like Scott Baio has ID's on his site. I know between you and DJFunkmaster it's gotta be like 10 players.

No, only a few. I have a XA2, a A35, An A3, an XBox drive which is in my computer, and I bought a few A3's for friends and family. So I have 4 total, not as many as DJ. The XA2 is in the theatre, the A3 is in the living room. The A35 is in storage if the XA2 packs it in, and I rip movies with the Xbox drive...

While we're on the subject of hoarding, I have 2 A1s, 2 XA2s, 2 add-ons, an A2 and an A35. My brother in Iowa, whom I gave an A3 for Xmas, paid me a sympathy call offering to give me back the A3. Since he wasn't planning on using it, I accepted.

I'm jealous Bruce ^^ oh well...

Bruce Ames said -

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"I still like the format, so I'll buy what few titles I like that they are good enough to release. I know they don't 'have' to do it, so I'll take it as a gesture of goodwill, and I'll keep it in mind when I buy their movies on Blu-ray. So in that light, the remaining HD DVD studios are actually doing Blu-ray (and themselves) a favor in showing goodwill to HD DVD owners."

Well said. I'm also going to buy a few of the 'last' HD-DVD releases (collector's items) over the next few months (along with some Blu-ray titles too of course, like Predator). And I'm hoping the rest of those announced Image Entertainment titles get released as well [they are supporting both hi-def disc formats by the way]. And... that Blockbuster keeps renting the discs, since Netflix is now phasing out HD-DVD over the coming months/summer.

-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)

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I'm also going to buy a few of the 'last' HD-DVD releases (collector's items) over the next few months...

As I will too. I'm also going to buy some of the imports on XPloited Cinema before they disappear. Those truely will be collector's items in North America.

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[Post edited by StevePro on Feb 22, 2008]

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As I will too. I'm also going to buy some of the imports on XPloited Cinema before they disappear. Those truely will be collector's items in North America.

Could very well be, I hope so. Band of Brothers stands of good chance already of being collectable. You can still get it from HMV, and I'd like to order an extra set, but at $160, I can only take advantage of so many deals.

Another is Star Trek: TOS. Toshiba was paying for the remastering, so who knows when it'll come out on Blu-ray. Even if it does, the HD DVD will probably have unique special features and it definitely won't be a combo. I think it's a good bet for collector's status. Also, a thought to those who bought backup players lately, the phaser remote offer is good for purchases thru Feb. 29th, so even if you have one, they'll be collectible too, and they're only $8 with the purchase of a player and ST: TOS set (normally $70 value, but you can't buy them, and I see one on ebay for $150). Amazon has ST:TOS now for only $97.50.

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[Post edited by BruceAmes on Feb 22, 2008]

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Well said. I'm also going to buy a few of the 'last' HD-DVD releases (collector's items) over the next few months (along with some Blu-ray titles too of course, like Predator). And I'm hoping the rest of those announced Image Entertainment titles get released as well [they are supporting both hi-def disc formats by the way]. And... that Blockbuster keeps renting the discs, since Netflix is now phasing out HD-DVD over the coming months/summer.

I sure hope so. It's possible there will be enough people wanting to collect this HD DVD 'junk', that they will become collectible, especially titles common to both formats but have something extra on HD VD (like a better transfer or special features), and titles not yet out on Blu-ray. Also the XA2 may become a collector's item, and like steve said, many imports which have few copies sold.

I am a HD DVD supporter and I also love my A2. But I would certainly look towards a Blu Ray player if the price was right. I am not going to bust the bank (400.00) for a Blu Ray player. I truely want a dual player that is quality so I can enjoy both formats. Eventually, the HD DVD movies will go away and we will be stuck saying now what. There will be a time that you have to decided wether or not you will adopt to the Blu side. No I am not interested in any form of downloading movies to watch. I really enjoy collecting the movies to have for myself. It is like the saying goes, "The man who dies with the most toys wins." Let's just hope that Blu Ray players drop in price, and the Blu machines fix what needs to be fixed so it can become the machine that HD DVD is.

Thoughts on how long the "cold war" will last and in what intensity?