Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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can tell the difference between a slow car and a fast one! I just don't care for the difference though. True 4X4 functionality is much more important to me.
Well I have to admit I have been very blessed in life. I drive a 2006 350Z 'Grand Touring' edition as well as a 2006 Toyota 4Runner 'Limited'....best of both worlds!
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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Toshiba will have to enter the Blu-ray market...they simply do not have a choice.
Not only are there a good number of pissed off consumer because of Toshiba abandoning the HD DVD format, there are an awful lot of really pissed off stereo and video shop owners...not the big box chains, but the smaller places where they actually know what they are selling to the public.
Prior to the demise of HD DVD by Toshiba, my two favorite little Mom and Pop stereo/video shops, both Toshiba reps for decades, were selling 5-10 HD DVD players...one of them actually has a Sony Store in his store and he was selling the same number of HD DVD players as he was Blu-ray...one for one...
Now the one, does not have a HD program source to sell to his customers...yeah, he has a couple of L/G HD DVD/Blu-ray combo players on the floor...but let us be honest here...they are crap!
The other store has the Blu-ray players to fall back on.
So Toshiba had better come up with something quick or a good number of their dealer base will abandon Toshiba and embrace someone who can offer a complete range of products, that the consumer want...not talk of another "superior" "upscaling" SD DVD player.
Unless Toshiba is coming out with a SD DVD player with a full scale Faroudja line scaller for under $150 bucks, offering 1080p/24 fps resolution, the mass populace is not going to be beating a path to Toshiba's door anytime soon...
I have been a toshiba backer for about a decade now and I won't be looking at their new offerings anytime soon...Just lost that luvin' feeling...
Not only are there a good number of pissed off consumer because of Toshiba abandoning the HD DVD format, there are an awful lot of really pissed off stereo and video shop owners...not the big box chains, but the smaller places where they actually know what they are selling to the public.
Prior to the demise of HD DVD by Toshiba, my two favorite little Mom and Pop stereo/video shops, both Toshiba reps for decades, were selling 5-10 HD DVD players...one of them actually has a Sony Store in his store and he was selling the same number of HD DVD players as he was Blu-ray...one for one...
Now the one, does not have a HD program source to sell to his customers...yeah, he has a couple of L/G HD DVD/Blu-ray combo players on the floor...but let us be honest here...they are crap!
The other store has the Blu-ray players to fall back on.
So Toshiba had better come up with something quick or a good number of their dealer base will abandon Toshiba and embrace someone who can offer a complete range of products, that the consumer want...not talk of another "superior" "upscaling" SD DVD player.
Unless Toshiba is coming out with a SD DVD player with a full scale Faroudja line scaller for under $150 bucks, offering 1080p/24 fps resolution, the mass populace is not going to be beating a path to Toshiba's door anytime soon...
I have been a toshiba backer for about a decade now and I won't be looking at their new offerings anytime soon...Just lost that luvin' feeling...
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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July 2006
Skyhawk I did a quick search on Google and there are products that seem to have no problems upsampling 48KHZ sound to 96 KHZ. Again this is not new technology.
Feed Your DAC The Highest Quality Digital Signal
An Ideal Fit for 24/96 DACs
The Upsampler provides a significant upgrade in sound when used with a standard CD player with digital outputs and a 24-bit, 96 kHz DAC. Just connect it between your CD player and DAC, and it will feed your DAC a true 96 kHz digital signal. For an even bigger improvement, the Upsampler also reduces jitter thanks to a super-accurate internal clock. And its advanced circuitry boosts the strength of the digital signal.
Improves the Performance of Older DACs, Too
If you're still using a standard 16-bit, 48 kHz outboard DAC, the Upsampler will still make a substantial difference in sound quality.
Lots of Features in a Small Box
Despite its small size, Monarchy's Upsampler packs in a lot of features. It accepts digital signals with sampling rates from 32 kHz to 96 kHz (16 bit or 24 bit) and lets you select 48 kHz or 96 kHz, 24-bit output. The 48 kHz setting will work with most conventional DACs for enhanced performance. The 96 kHz setting will work with all 24-bit, 96 kHz DACs. Super-accurate reference clocks result in higher sonic performance for any DAC you use with the Upsampler.
Hopefully you've learned your lesson
EDIT: Oh ya the link...
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=MYDIPUP
[Post edited by Falcon01 on Mar 5, 2008]
Feed Your DAC The Highest Quality Digital Signal
An Ideal Fit for 24/96 DACs
The Upsampler provides a significant upgrade in sound when used with a standard CD player with digital outputs and a 24-bit, 96 kHz DAC. Just connect it between your CD player and DAC, and it will feed your DAC a true 96 kHz digital signal. For an even bigger improvement, the Upsampler also reduces jitter thanks to a super-accurate internal clock. And its advanced circuitry boosts the strength of the digital signal.
Improves the Performance of Older DACs, Too
If you're still using a standard 16-bit, 48 kHz outboard DAC, the Upsampler will still make a substantial difference in sound quality.
Lots of Features in a Small Box
Despite its small size, Monarchy's Upsampler packs in a lot of features. It accepts digital signals with sampling rates from 32 kHz to 96 kHz (16 bit or 24 bit) and lets you select 48 kHz or 96 kHz, 24-bit output. The 48 kHz setting will work with most conventional DACs for enhanced performance. The 96 kHz setting will work with all 24-bit, 96 kHz DACs. Super-accurate reference clocks result in higher sonic performance for any DAC you use with the Upsampler.
Hopefully you've learned your lesson
EDIT: Oh ya the link...
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=MYDIPUP
[Post edited by Falcon01 on Mar 5, 2008]
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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REPORT: BLU-RAY STILL SUCKS, OKAY?
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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I can tell the difference between a slow car and a fast one! I just don't care for the difference though.
Wish I could say the same about women!
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By the way Skyhawk, I also found this for you. Notice the date the patent was issued is in 2004.
FIG. 4 is a block diagram showing a conventional DVD audio recording apparatus. For the sake of simplicity, 3 channels are illustrated, although 6 channels are actually used. In FIG. 4, reference numerals 51a and 51b denote upsampling means which receive signals of the channels 2 and 3 at sampling frequencies of 48 KHz, and adapt their respective sampling frequencies to 96 KHz for the channel 1. Reference numeral 50 denotes a timing delay unit for delaying the signal of the channel 1 while the signals of the channel 2 and 3 are upsampled, and 52 denotes a filter circuit for filtering the upsampled signals of the channels 2 and 3 and performing interpolation for them so that they are smoothed. Reference numeral 54 denotes Lossless compression means for performing reversible compression of the signals of the channels 2 and 3 which passed through the filter circuit 52 and the signal of the channel 1 delayed by the delay unit 50. Reference numeral 53 denotes format transformation means for transforming a Lossless-compressed signal into data having a predetermined format which can be written to a recording medium 56, and 55 denotes recording means for recording the compressed data into the recording medium 56.
To upsample the sampling frequencies of the signals of the channels 2 and 3 from 48 KHz to 96 KHz, respectively, with the above-mentioned construction, the upsampling means 51a and 51b insert a predetermined number of "zeros" into data so that the sampling frequencies are twice higher (48×2=96), and then a filter circuit 52 having a given factor in a subsequent stage replaces the inserted "zero" samples with :samples used for smooth interpolation. To be specific, the upsampling process for inserting the samples having "zero" values into the data of the signals of the channels 2 and 3 is performed so that the sample having the "zero" value is placed in every other sample of the data. While the signals of the channels 2 and 3 are upsampled, the signal of the channel 1 is delayed by the delay unit 50. Instead of the above "0" insertion, processing performed by the upsampling means 51a and 51b may be a sample holding process which holds a predetermined number of previous sample data or an interpolation process using straight lines rather than "zeros". Here, in the sample holding process, the data of the signals of channels 2 and 3 are interpolated so that after each of the samples constituting that data, a sample having the same value as that sample is placed. For the filter circuit 52, a low pass filter can be realized by a filter such as an FIR (Filter Impulse Response) or an IIR (Infinite Impulse Response). The filter circuit 52 filters the signals output from the upsampling means 51a and 51b by using the above filter.
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6751177-description.html
FIG. 4 is a block diagram showing a conventional DVD audio recording apparatus. For the sake of simplicity, 3 channels are illustrated, although 6 channels are actually used. In FIG. 4, reference numerals 51a and 51b denote upsampling means which receive signals of the channels 2 and 3 at sampling frequencies of 48 KHz, and adapt their respective sampling frequencies to 96 KHz for the channel 1. Reference numeral 50 denotes a timing delay unit for delaying the signal of the channel 1 while the signals of the channel 2 and 3 are upsampled, and 52 denotes a filter circuit for filtering the upsampled signals of the channels 2 and 3 and performing interpolation for them so that they are smoothed. Reference numeral 54 denotes Lossless compression means for performing reversible compression of the signals of the channels 2 and 3 which passed through the filter circuit 52 and the signal of the channel 1 delayed by the delay unit 50. Reference numeral 53 denotes format transformation means for transforming a Lossless-compressed signal into data having a predetermined format which can be written to a recording medium 56, and 55 denotes recording means for recording the compressed data into the recording medium 56.
To upsample the sampling frequencies of the signals of the channels 2 and 3 from 48 KHz to 96 KHz, respectively, with the above-mentioned construction, the upsampling means 51a and 51b insert a predetermined number of "zeros" into data so that the sampling frequencies are twice higher (48×2=96), and then a filter circuit 52 having a given factor in a subsequent stage replaces the inserted "zero" samples with :samples used for smooth interpolation. To be specific, the upsampling process for inserting the samples having "zero" values into the data of the signals of the channels 2 and 3 is performed so that the sample having the "zero" value is placed in every other sample of the data. While the signals of the channels 2 and 3 are upsampled, the signal of the channel 1 is delayed by the delay unit 50. Instead of the above "0" insertion, processing performed by the upsampling means 51a and 51b may be a sample holding process which holds a predetermined number of previous sample data or an interpolation process using straight lines rather than "zeros". Here, in the sample holding process, the data of the signals of channels 2 and 3 are interpolated so that after each of the samples constituting that data, a sample having the same value as that sample is placed. For the filter circuit 52, a low pass filter can be realized by a filter such as an FIR (Filter Impulse Response) or an IIR (Infinite Impulse Response). The filter circuit 52 filters the signals output from the upsampling means 51a and 51b by using the above filter.
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6751177-description.html
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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However, MANY consumers don't CARE about the difference. In life you have all kinds of people, some of us drive BMW M3's and some of us Toyota Prius, people know the difference but choose what they can afford and what is important to them.
Great post, Bosshog! That's a perfect comparison. The difference is obvious, but lots of people want to spend their spare change somewhere else.
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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So me disagreeing that the average person can not perceive a difference between HD and non-HD sources is "anit HD DVD"? You are delusional.
No, disagreeing is not delusional as a matter of fact is good to hear different views of people in order to broaden our views, our horizons, and our knowledge. What I believe he claims as delusional is your persistence in claiming that when I say "upconvert-1080i", I'm saying "NTSC". Now that is delusional.
BTW, Tim, your pics keep on getting better and better.
Anyway, what was this topic about? lol j/k. I think there is plenty of life left in SD-DVD for Toshiba to further "improve" upconvertion to make it rival with BD. So I personally doubt they'll go Blu for a while (Watch Toshiba announce tomorrow they are going Blu lol 
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Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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Skyhawk I did a quick search on Google and there are products that seem to have no problems upsampling 48KHZ sound to 96 KHZ.
Yes, yes Falcon... there are outboard audio processors that do a better job than lower end DACs found in cheap, especially older receivers. But the consensus is that these processors are a waste of money in that modern DACs (esp. high end receivers) can do this job as good or better without introducing yet another source of jitter. There are tons of posts on AVSForum dedicated to this subject that include audio professionals as participants. I suggest you check them out.
