Re: Toshiba, MS, and Panasonic started a working commitee on DVD2 format, recreating HD-DVD experience on DVD

Understand what theprof00 is trying to tell you. He is saying TOSHIBA should start a price war with in Blu ray, he never said that there is currently one.

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How is BD-Java "broke"?

BD-J contents are not uniformly compatible across different players.

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Sky is the limit with the number of ways it could be implemented within Blu-ray.

I do 50% of my coding with Java. Take my word for it, cross-platform compatibility is not guaranteed with Java. In fact, I am fixing a weird bug that only appears on Linux JVM(Works fine under Windows and OS X) right now.

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So, in that regard it is superior to the simplicity of HDi, which by the way is just a browser extension.

For distributed content, HDi's browser based approach is better.

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it's not going to be fully compatible with the millions of DVD players already in homes throughout the US...

DVD2 is fully compatible with all existing DVD players, you just need Xbox 360 or DVD2 player to access new HDi features.

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the 360 has sold about 17 million consoles. Talk about re-inventing the numbers!

I specifically said the installed base by the time DVD2 launches.

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the one HDDVD fell victim to and that's STUDIO SUPPORT.

Well, we are talking DVD, not HD-DVD. Studio support is not an issue. Actually, Managed Copy alone should be the killer app of DVD2, since studios are implementing Managed Copy on their own, usually via Windows DRM or iTunes. With DVD2 Managed Copy, there is a standard way of implementing managed copy.

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Toshiba should make a Blu ray player that puts anything that SONY could ever dream of to shame, and end this and stop waisting investors money.

Toshiba makes money by keeping DVD alive. Blu-Ray's success is highly detrimental to financial well-beings of Toshiba and Microsoft.

xplay i really hope all those responses were jokes, i really do.
otherwise it might be time for you to hang up the keyboard and mouse.
I will give you an ample amount of trust that they were jokes, but no promises!

Really? Seriously, how can Toshiba compete by joining the Blu Ray club (not that I would mind)? But in a technical sense... how can Toshiba lower a blu ray player down to around, say.... $200 to get 'an edge' given ROYALTIES passed on to Sony? What will they TRIM DOWN in parts, to get that $200 retail box to every household?

I tend to include myself with the 'consumer' side, I don't know about you Xplay...

I specifically said the installed base by the time DVD2 launches.
You weren't the only person posting those numbers meat.
And by way of specificity, predicting sales number for a console that for the last two months has been dead last in console sales and has taken more than two years to sell 17 million, is not so specific, regardless of "predictions". Nobody predicted HDDVD would fail either

xplay, it's been stated numerous times that sony is artificially inflating prices for the BR. If so, toshiba could easily work out a deal with sony, that would bypass royalties. Tosh does own several sony manufacturing facilities you know.

What this does have on its side is its 'backward compatibility' with existing players.

If the studios are persuaded to take it on and incorporate it in their 'standard' dvd release of films then it could very well do well.

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xplay i really hope all those responses were jokes, i really do.
otherwise it might be time for you to hang up the keyboard and mouse.
I will give you an ample amount of trust that they were jokes, but no promises!

There's one thing I learned a LONG TIME ago regarding chats & forums... IS NOT TO TAKE EVERYTHING SERIOUSLY. Yes, of course, I'm partially joking. Many at times I'm sarcasstic... but I don't consider anyone enemies here. That includes you.

Life is TOO SHORT TO STRESS OVER INTERNET discussions, with people you have ABSOLUTELY ZERO (eye) CONTACT with.... especially as trivial as a none-existent product.

It's a discussion, with humor on the side. NOTHING MORE. NOTHING LESS.

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I tend to include myself with the 'consumer' side, I don't know about you Xplay...

Fine. I'll be the 'Lone Whore' in this group. DAMMIT!

[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 12, 2008]

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DVD2 is fully compatible with all existing DVD players, you just need Xbox 360 or DVD2 player to access new HDi features.

So where's the added benefit to current DVD owner's. This only caters to a select group, and that's current 360 and HDDVD hardware users. This sounds almost like the infamous profie 1.0 vs. 1.1/2.0 blu ray specs. I have a Blu ray player that can play the movie but not the features. NOW it have a DVD player that might play the movie and definitly not the bonus features.