Re: Toshiba, MS, and Panasonic started a working commitee on DVD2 format, recreating HD-DVD experience on DVD

toshiba could easily lighten up some production fees for sony, and lend some programmers to help with BR programs, and Sony could lighten up on royalties and such. Sony and Toshiba worked hand in hand with these kind of deals for a long time, it's nothing new deadmeat.

Xplay, though it would be difficult for Toshiba to be in the BR market, they are one of the top tech companies in Japan and certainly not lacking in the development area. They could come out with all that interactivity ya'll are always on about, or some new features. If they did, maybe Sony would even decide to pay Toshiba for the tech, who knows? But the decision is stronger. Should they keep starting losing battles, i dunno, it's for fate to decide.

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FYI: Both Blu-ray and HD DVD players offer backwards compatibility and can play standard definition DVDs.

Yes but their discs aren't - that's a huge difference when you look at the software sales ratio

[Post edited by Scotsman on Mar 12, 2008]

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If the PS3 was likened to a trojan horse by some - what would they call this?

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Remember, it is all about the almighty dollar.

Speaking of the Dollah', I'm gonna need some QUICK BUCKS given my 'gadget-whore' activities, are more Chaotic than Paris Hilton's medical exam. Anyone got a Pole? Anyone?

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Then buy the DVD2 player. Should go for around $150. DVD2 players enhance all DVDs beyond normal upconversion.

Dammit, for the love of anything with mirrored walls.... Does anyone have a pole!!!!

[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 12, 2008]

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I do 50% of my coding with Java. Take my word for it, cross-platform compatibility is not guaranteed with Java.

There are no guarantees in life, however Java is certified to be cross-platform compatible for those specific JVMs that pass Sun's certification testing. With the large number of equipment providers, it's not surprising that some inconsistencies have been uncovered between players - something that HDi never had to content with.

<understatement> Java under various JVMs definitely offers a higher degree of compatibility than HDi's JScript, CSS, etc. when used with different browser implementations.</understatement>

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dvd2 is already a flop. a small stupid threat being pushed by the other anti-BR Microsoft. DVD is done, there is almost nothing left to improve upon. Other companies have seen this and are working on holographic. Consumers have seen this and are buying BR. dvd2 is just another attempt by the MS team to try to destroy tangible media, and usher in the enormously profitable digital download. Think about this: When music went digital, the prices were still very similar to the actual disc despite not having production costs.
If and When MS institutes large scale digital downloads that erase themselves and take several hours to d/l for the same price, or even a third cheaper(while making 6 times the profit), will you see these little MS backed products as a step towards a better way for the consumer, or for the Bill Gates.

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Currently how much does SD software out sell BD software?

Currently 99:1

Last year, DVD sold $22 billion worth, while Blu-Ray sold $180 million worth with all the free give-aways(paid for by Sony but scanned as sales) and BOGOs.

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FYI: Both Blu-ray and HD DVD players offer backwards compatibility and can play standard definition DVDs.

But you cannot play a Blu-Ray disc on a DVD player. A DVD2 disc will play on a DVD player just fine.

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toshiba could easily lighten up some production fees for sony

I don't understand.

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and lend some programmers to help with BR programs,

Software isn't Toshiba's strength.

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and Sony could lighten up on royalties and such.

Blu-Ray royalty is fixed at $30 per drive and $60 per player.

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Xplay, though it would be difficult for Toshiba to be in the BR market, they are one of the top tech companies in Japan and certainly not lacking in the development area.

Nishida's objective is to concentrate and focus on profitable market segments. Since Toshiba is better off if Blu-Ray's dead, don't expect Toshiba ever in Blu-Ray market.

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Yes but their discs aren't - that's a huge difference when you look at the software sales ratio

I have this little suspicion that HD media sales will increase as more people buy the players capable of playing them.

I also suspect getting people to buy new players (which don't exist now) simply for some standard DVDs that allow downloadable ring tones or video/commercial clips (which don't exist now), is going to be a hard sell to the demographic that has home networks and broadband connections, when HD media is already real, available, and offers the interactivity mentioned.

deadmeat, toshiba produces things for sony. Hence lower the production costs.
honestly man, toshiba has no chance if they are going to go with something other than BR. None of these formats will have very much longevity.that equals negative profit on the development scale.

Money for nothing.................and your chicks for free.

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None of these formats will have very much longevity.that equals negative profit on the development scale.

How much have they already developed while producing HD DVD