Re: Toshiba, MS, and Panasonic started a working commitee on DVD2 format, recreating HD-DVD experience on DVD

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deadmeat, toshiba produces things for sony. Hence lower the production costs.

Explain why Sony would compromise for Toshiba, when Samsung can't even get cheaper blu ray boxes on the shelves... and they produced LCD panels for Sony.

When Toshiba announced they were discontinuing HD DVD they said

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Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.

I wonder if they meant DVD2 I also wonder whether the studios in that quote are already onboard?

Deadmeat, i was just wondering,....
where did you get the specs? for the HD 960p quote?
Also, i'm wondering, would dvd2 be compatible with BR players?

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Also, i'm wondering, would dvd2 be compatible with BR players?

Probably but without the HDi content and the 960p

[Post edited by Scotsman on Mar 12, 2008]

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Blu-Ray royalty is fixed at $30 per drive and $60 per player.

Interesting... reference (link)?

I do know that just a couple years ago, standard DVD manufacturers were paying about $20 in royalty fees on a $100 player. Many of the sub-fees are charged on a percentage basis of the player's cost, so this royalty fee does up or down to some extent with the cost of the player.

i wonder if ms and tosh and pan aren't trying to recreate dvd into something br can't play. In order to keep dvd owners from switching. That would be a dirty little tactic aimed at hampering progress. If such a thing was true i wouldn't mind boycotting them, as i boycotted intel for a good 12 years after their "well make a faster processor when someone forces us to make a faster processor" thing happened.

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i wonder if ms and tosh and pan aren't trying to recreate dvd into something br can't play. In order to keep dvd owners from switching.

They're using a different lens, no conspiracy there. As for the prevention of 'switching' well... the QUALITY of that box's OUTPUT is still up for judgement.

Consumers may switch. Consumers may buy both.... or they may just consider NEITHER FORMAT & save the money for gas.

[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 12, 2008]

gas is expensive!

I think THAT is what everyone can agree on.... damn them Oil Cartel!

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honestly man, toshiba has no chance if they are going to go with something other than BR. None of these formats will have very much longevity.that equals negative profit on the development scale.

Most of R&D for DVD2 is already paid for, from HD-DVD.

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How much have they already developed while producing HD DVD

Pretty much all of it.

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I wonder if they meant DVD2

Surely looks like it.

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I also wonder whether the studios in that quote are already onboard?

Well, some studios are more inclined than the others.

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Deadmeat, i was just wondering,....
where did you get the specs? for the HD 960p quote?

Toshiba is putting in Super Upconversion into its future DVD players and encourage the Chinese to do the same. Super Upconversion had been debated to death at here and other AV forums. The native output of Super Upconverted DVD is 960p.

Basically, DVD2 is an initiative to recreate HD-DVD experience on DVD. Interactivity is provided by same HDi, while HD visual is provided by Super Upconversion.

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Also, i'm wondering, would dvd2 be compatible with BR players?

Yes and No. Blu-Ray players will play DVD2 discs as DVDs, but no Super Upconversion and HDi interactivity.

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Interesting... reference (link)?

Well, the original news article expired, but try here. http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=568614

Blu-Ray drive royalty is confirmed at $30, the player royalty is roughly double that because of all the video codec, BD+, and Java royalties. So don't expect sub $200 Blu-Ray players without a royalty break, which won't happen for another 5 years.

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i wonder if ms and tosh and pan aren't trying to recreate dvd into something br can't play.

DVD2s can be played on all DVD compatible players.