Re: Toshiba, MS, and Panasonic started a working commitee on DVD2 format, recreating HD-DVD experience on DVD

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So with DVD 2.0 comming out

The original post on this was about an opinion article/blog that is suggesting stuff based on false information that the WG-12 is new (February) and therefor was created in response to countering Blu-ray in the format war. The WG-12 was formed last year. It's OLD news, and has nothing to do with this silly war that HD DVD lost (sorry to remind people, but some of you need it).

Think about it. It would be beyond stupidity to invest big money into standard DVD at this point. Do you really think allowing people to hook up their DVD players to the internet to download ring tones will reinvigorate the format or crush the adoption of high definition? Good grief. I want what some of you guys are drinking! Err... on second thought....

In a related news, Microsoft officially denied Blu-Ray playback on Xbox 360.

Microsoft is not talking with Sony about adding Blu-Ray playback to Xbox, nor Microsoft have any plan to do so in the future.

http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSN1224707720080313?sp=true

Microsoft's official rejection of Blu-Ray means Xbox 360 will be the first DVD2 player, and 3rd generation Xbox will get an extended red-laser based DVD drive whose capacity is in the range of 20~24 GB.

Too bad we've been wasting our money with HD DVDs and blu-ray crap...still, nothing beats going to the movies, sitting in those comfortable seats, eating that greasy popcorn that we all love, and those people who can't shut up or turn off their cell phones...

Nah, but still, DVD doesn't have any competition yet, since it's the only reliable format yet. Unlike with CDs and mp3s, we don't use iPods to watch our movies...

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The studios killed HDDVD because they only wanted one format.

Currently in terms of studio support there are two (SD & BD). If this comes to market this year and the studios support it then there is no change - there would still be two.

What we would then have to see is what happens to BD sales. If SD sales fall and BD increase then we'll eventually end up with one format - BD.

However if the sales ratio of SD against BD continues for a year or two to be anywhere like it is just now - then DVD2 (thanks to being included on SD discs) will be the format left standing.

If this happens however the PS3 owners will be left in a better position than HD DVD owners like myself - they will still be able to buy new games titles so its not all bad.

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[Post edited by Scotsman on Mar 13, 2008]

Hendrix, I have already touched upon HD-VMD's lack of support. I honestly believe that one ot the main problems of the format is lack of support. If it had full support, it could EASILY replace SDVDs. With it's low price, I don' see why HD-VMD couldn't easily replace DVDs.

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However if the sales ratio of SD against BD continues for a year or two to be anywhere like it is just now - then DVD2 (thanks to being included on SD discs) will be the format left standing.

Here is Blu-Ray's problem it costs far more to author a Blu-Ray title, especially BD-Live versions, than a DVD or even a DVD2 disc. Yet average Blu-Ray title sells less than 100K copies, not enough to recoup investment. Had it not been the Sony payoffs to studios, then studios would have dropped Blu-Ray long time ago.

Now that Sony subsidy is going away, survival of Blu-Ray itself is in question.

I think the doubters of this new potential format forget to see is that there is not a lot of additional work that needs to be done to create this new disk. For the studio to gain support, it mere programming when structuring the disk format, that is all. For Paramount, Universal and WB the switch would be easy. For the other studios however, software would have to be implemented. Wow, I thinks that's pretty easy.

But you forgot one special thing ReaggieP and that is the content is not accessable on regular upconverting DVD players that alot of consumers have. For example if I have a $200 upconverter why would I purchase another $200 (guessing) just for bonus features and 960p resolution. I does'nt make sense, the only thing this will do is make alot of people angry and buy nothing at all. That's not making DVD better that's destroying the home video market and the studios will never go for making a bad situation worse.

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[Post edited by tony1569 on Mar 13, 2008]