Thursday, March 13, 2008
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=158
Funny how the MOST ADVANCED blu ray player EVER PRODUCED is still 400 bux. Yes Toshiba has a big scar after the hidef mess.... but Sony's Blu Ray partners ARE GETTING TORTURED in LACKLUSTER SALES, while the PS3 rakes up the profits....
Irony 1: All these standalone blu ray players ARE FAR TOO EXPENSIVE, compared to what the PS3 offers in features, daily updates, upconversion, HD, gaming.... AND CELL PROCESSOR. So they stay put on retail shelves.
Irony 2: Everytime each of these high-priced standalones finally moves out of the shelf... Sony gets a piece of their profit. OUCH!
No wonder they can't lower the price. Oh, that and MONOPOLY.
Question is: These partners.... ARE THEY STILL SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS, OR PROGRESSED TO SHOOTING THEIR FEET?
If this keeps up, the Recession Generation may just do the UNTHINKABLE... like purchase a Super Upconverter for HALF the price! Who knows, maybe by that time, the PS3 will sell for $200.
Blu-Ray Partners: "Well what about us?"
Sony: "You're on your own bud. That's not my box."
[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 13, 2008]
Funny how the MOST ADVANCED blu ray player EVER PRODUCED is still 400 bux. Yes Toshiba has a big scar after the hidef mess.... but Sony's Blu Ray partners ARE GETTING TORTURED in LACKLUSTER SALES, while the PS3 rakes up the profits....
Irony 1: All these standalone blu ray players ARE FAR TOO EXPENSIVE, compared to what the PS3 offers in features, daily updates, upconversion, HD, gaming.... AND CELL PROCESSOR. So they stay put on retail shelves.
Irony 2: Everytime each of these high-priced standalones finally moves out of the shelf... Sony gets a piece of their profit. OUCH!
No wonder they can't lower the price. Oh, that and MONOPOLY.
Question is: These partners.... ARE THEY STILL SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS, OR PROGRESSED TO SHOOTING THEIR FEET?
If this keeps up, the Recession Generation may just do the UNTHINKABLE... like purchase a Super Upconverter for HALF the price! Who knows, maybe by that time, the PS3 will sell for $200.
Blu-Ray Partners: "Well what about us?"
Sony: "You're on your own bud. That's not my box."
[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 13, 2008]
Thursday, March 13, 2008
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Doesn't Panasonic have more money than Sony? I understand that Sony seems like a bigger company because they do stupid things to control the world like buying movie studios,record labels and such. Sony probably loses more money than any company ever. I just hope that maybe Panasonic or another company from the BDA can take over, I want HDM to go mainstream, but with Sony leading it means fail.
Thursday, March 13, 2008
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1. Panasonic already makes Blu-ray players. Proof: http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/blu-ray/default.asp
2. Sony does not own the BDA, and is just another member of the board. Proof:
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/top/About_us/Index.html
2. Sony does not own the BDA, and is just another member of the board. Proof:
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/top/About_us/Index.html
Thursday, March 13, 2008
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Quote:
Funny how the MOST ADVANCED blu ray player EVER PRODUCED is still 400 bux
how is that funny, that is very affordable for the most advanced br player. If i recall the most advanced hddvd player was like over 1000$. i'm still scratching my head over that one.
are you at a bar while you are typing this>?
@rangooth
sony=fail? recent history shows sony=win!
whats with the blatant contradictions? can't you guys just say "well played sony, but we will be careful with our money still until you can prove trustworthy". Instead its "A Sony guy at best buy stepped on my shoe last year and didn't even realize it! That is the perfect metaphor for the company in itself. They are scum and would rather make money than give me a player at 200$ because they are monopolists! They aren't smart like me, companies should hire me to go one on one marketing chess against sony. i r so much smarter!"
Thursday, March 13, 2008
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I have my own reasons for not liking Sony and most have to do with business practices of large corporations such as Sony and less to do with Sony's actual products. It is of my opinion that the way Sony killed HD DVD right out of the gate in the manner that they did is VERY bad for the HDM industry.
The DVD market is a multi-billion dollar industry in the United States alone. There is plenty of room for two HD formats, probably even three. Throw the rest of the world in there and easily three formats could compete. But Sony chose to be greedy and use some very underhanded tactics against a smaller corporation that could not throw money around like Sony could. Sony convinced the studios that there would be this mass confusion over two competing formats. There was no confusion. The early adopters are usually the more technically minded people. Who here on this forum was confused as to which they should buy and who knew from the get-go which was their preferred format? By the time either format would have hit the mainstream knowledge of both would have been plenty. Were you ever confused as to whether you should drink Coke or Pepsi? They are basically the same with only moderate differances that mean little to those who aren't die-hard fans of either brand. Just like HD DVD and Blu-Ray.
Anyway, the end result was HD DVD being killed off way too early and now there is no second format to compete with. Prices will (and currently are) go up, choices will become limited, and in general the market will begin to stagnate and it will not become "the new chosen format" that everyone seems to think it will become.
The DVD market is a multi-billion dollar industry in the United States alone. There is plenty of room for two HD formats, probably even three. Throw the rest of the world in there and easily three formats could compete. But Sony chose to be greedy and use some very underhanded tactics against a smaller corporation that could not throw money around like Sony could. Sony convinced the studios that there would be this mass confusion over two competing formats. There was no confusion. The early adopters are usually the more technically minded people. Who here on this forum was confused as to which they should buy and who knew from the get-go which was their preferred format? By the time either format would have hit the mainstream knowledge of both would have been plenty. Were you ever confused as to whether you should drink Coke or Pepsi? They are basically the same with only moderate differances that mean little to those who aren't die-hard fans of either brand. Just like HD DVD and Blu-Ray.
Anyway, the end result was HD DVD being killed off way too early and now there is no second format to compete with. Prices will (and currently are) go up, choices will become limited, and in general the market will begin to stagnate and it will not become "the new chosen format" that everyone seems to think it will become.
Thursday, March 13, 2008
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spoonard you are completely 100% backwards sir please cease and desist.
I've been watching amazon and prices are the same for movies that they have been 2 months ago. there is no spike. The best player is 400$. It is very cheap to buy for HD compared to an HDTV.
Two formats does NOT WORK. please get that through your head. DVD was one format. videotapes got big despite two formats because of the fundamental revolution of the product. Two companies selling the same things but incompatible with each other leads nowhere, especially when a larger dominant format still exists. how many years would it have taken DVD to take off if there were three companies all selling the same movies but with different formats? No company would make enough headway to kill vhs, because stores would have to spend three times as much money putting out the same selection of movies that vhs would take up. thereby losing 3 times the profit. Stores would be like, f*ck that we just carrying vhs from now on.
Do these ideas not register spoon? please take a business class or something.
EDIT: just reread your post
COKE AND PEPSI AR NOT INCOMPATIBLE FORMATS THEY ARE DRINKS. I PUT THEM IN MY BELLY!
Blu ray and Hddvd have more than "MODERATE DIFFERENCES" they are incompatible. you sir are a jackass no offense intended, but really stop talking nonsense.
where the hell do you get this stuff, do you just reach in a bag of business jargon you don't understand and put them together? None of those things are happening, or do happen in business.did choices go down when dvd won, no, did prices go up? no, did the market stagnate? no, did it become the chosen format? yes See everything you just said was wrong.
[Post edited by theprof00 on Mar 13, 2008]
I've been watching amazon and prices are the same for movies that they have been 2 months ago. there is no spike. The best player is 400$. It is very cheap to buy for HD compared to an HDTV.
Two formats does NOT WORK. please get that through your head. DVD was one format. videotapes got big despite two formats because of the fundamental revolution of the product. Two companies selling the same things but incompatible with each other leads nowhere, especially when a larger dominant format still exists. how many years would it have taken DVD to take off if there were three companies all selling the same movies but with different formats? No company would make enough headway to kill vhs, because stores would have to spend three times as much money putting out the same selection of movies that vhs would take up. thereby losing 3 times the profit. Stores would be like, f*ck that we just carrying vhs from now on.
Do these ideas not register spoon? please take a business class or something.
EDIT: just reread your post
COKE AND PEPSI AR NOT INCOMPATIBLE FORMATS THEY ARE DRINKS. I PUT THEM IN MY BELLY!
Blu ray and Hddvd have more than "MODERATE DIFFERENCES" they are incompatible. you sir are a jackass no offense intended, but really stop talking nonsense.
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Anyway, the end result was HD DVD being killed off way too early and now there is no second format to compete with. Prices will (and currently are) go up, choices will become limited, and in general the market will begin to stagnate and it will not become "the new chosen format" that everyone seems to think it will become.
where the hell do you get this stuff, do you just reach in a bag of business jargon you don't understand and put them together? None of those things are happening, or do happen in business.did choices go down when dvd won, no, did prices go up? no, did the market stagnate? no, did it become the chosen format? yes See everything you just said was wrong.
[Post edited by theprof00 on Mar 13, 2008]
Thursday, March 13, 2008
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you should be banned sir
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Ignore him. The guy is as dumb as a roof shingle. 
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I suppose xplaytendo's post is all backwards too? No sir, it is you who are ignoring the basics of economics here.
[Post edited by spoonard on Mar 13, 2008]
[Post edited by spoonard on Mar 13, 2008]
Thursday, March 13, 2008
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February 2008
1. Skyhawk I already Knew that Panasonic made Blu-ray players. They have 2 models out, and a profile 2.0 player from them will be out soon.
2. I never said Sony owns the BDA, they are leading them though,correct?
3. Learn to read!
2. I never said Sony owns the BDA, they are leading them though,correct?
3. Learn to read!
