Re: ZDNET: Blu Ray prices SPIKE!

@ theprof00

Sony dosn't how know to dive a format into mainstream.

Think about Betamax,UMD,and minidisc.

Some claim they made the CD, It was Phillips who created CD. Sony just used their money to back the format.

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Question is: These partners.... ARE THEY STILL SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS, OR PROGRESSED TO SHOOTING THEIR FEET?

Are you saying that Toshiba would be a better partner? Selling players for $100-$200 is smart for Toshiba for many reasons, but you can bet that the Philips, Pioneer, Denon, etc. all had a far greater chance of actually making money on Blu-player players with Sony's price points. Many people won't buy a PS3 over a standalone regardless, but who could compete with Toshiba's standalone HD-DVD player prices given that they don't own a piece of HD-DVD?

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Sony dosn't how know to dive a format into mainstream. Think about Betamax,UMD,and minidisc. Some claim they made the CD, It was Phillips who created CD. Sony just used their money to back the format.

Ummmm...are you questioning the ability to bring a format into the mainstream or the ability to invent something innovative? Regardless of who invented the CD format, it seems that Sony had a major part in the marketing and resultant massive success of the CD. I'd say that Sony did okay with the PS2, as well.

I will say, though, that Sony has been guilty many times of being overly proprietary with their technology in the past, which has ended up in market failures.

rangoonth and others... you overlook the support that Sony made sure to have lined up for the Blu-ray format among manufacturers and studios - [contrast this to their Betamax plan where it was basically Sony by itself] - and the fact that Sony ALSO owns it's own studio/music lines of content...

Sony Pictures
Sony Classics
Sony International
Sony TV
Sony Music
Columbia Pictures
Columbia Classics
Columbia/Tri-Star
Screen Gems
...etc

Sony and other BRDA members never lost the 'lead' and 'clout' they had once the PS3 was released, with the defection of Paramount being the only temporary setback in their plans for Blu-ray dominance. But BD sales were greater than HD-DVD, and it's the studio's OPINION that growing hi-def disc adoption and success won't happen if consumers have to 'choose' between one or the other (or both). So you have Warner/New Line/HBO to thank for the final nail in the coffin for any chance of HD-DVD's success... but you want to blame Sony instead of Warner? Hmmm...

Blu-ray won, game over, move on, adopt, ENJOY HI-DEF!

-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)

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Blu-ray won, game over, move on, adopt, ENJOY HI-DEF!

Blu ray won within their OWN CAMP. Consumers can't afford hi-def THEN, they won't be able to afford it NOW. Open your window, RECESSION is saying "Hello!"

The ONLY one that wins is Sony's pockets, in royalty charges from its partners.

Does anybody here know how to read? LH I didn't say anything about support with Blu-ray. I just stated that Sony leads the BDA, that is correct is it not?

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[Post edited by Skyhawk on Mar 13, 2008]

rangoonth said:

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1. Skyhawk I already Knew that Panasonic made Blu-ray players. They have 2 models out, and a profile 2.0 player from them will be out soon.
2. I never said Sony owns the BDA, they are leading them though,correct?
3. Learn to read!

I can read just fine. I'll remind you what you said in regards to this topic of Blu-ray player prices:

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I just hope that maybe Panasonic or another company from the BDA can take over, I want HDM to go mainstream, but with Sony leading it means fail.

Would you like an explanation again that Panasonic already makes Blu-ray players and can compete and price their players competitively? Would you like an explanation that no "single" company actually "leads" or "owns" the BDA? Is English your first language? It's not mine, but I seem to be better at it than you.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Mar 13, 2008]

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I just stated that Sony leads the BDA, that is correct is it not?

No that is incorrect. I pasted the link to the BDA, why didn't you read it? LAZY?

Yes Sony was instrumental along with 8 other companies in first forming the BDA, but no single company "leads it". Please read the information provided at the BDA site at the link I provided. The BDA was started in 2002 by these 9 companies (you'd know who they are if you bothered to even click on the link!), and you would also know about the voting and resolution structuring of the BDA, and also know there are now 18 member companies represented on the board of directors who have equal voting privileges.

Why should I have to type so much for people who are too darn lazy to click on a link? It's not fair.

rangoonth said -

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"Sony dosn't how know to dive a format into mainstream."

To me, the large BRDA is composed of strong MAINSTREAM support from (1) studios and other content holders, (2) manufacturers, etc that are associated with (3) many retailers, online dealers, and a (4) growing fan/user base of world-wide adopters. Understand now?

-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Mar 13, 2008]