Re: ZDNET: Blu Ray prices SPIKE!

yes spoonard xplaytendo is also wrong as he normally is on a great number of posts.

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Funny how the MOST ADVANCED blu ray player EVER PRODUCED is still 400 bux

-xplaytendo
the price is fine for the most advanced format product. Hell most advanced ipod is more than that.
Most advanced HDTV is well over 25k, most advanced umbrella is 80$, the most advanced swimsuit is 400$. what do you want exactly?

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but Sony's Blu Ray partners ARE GETTING TORTURED in LACKLUSTER SALES

they each get a cut of profit for every player sold.

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All these standalone blu ray players ARE FAR TOO EXPENSIVE, compared to what the PS3 offers in features, daily updates, upconversion, HD, gaming.... AND CELL PROCESSOR. So they stay put on retail shelves.

-xplaytendo
there have been several posts on good standalone players for similar price that have been selling really well. don't ask me for the models though, but i know skyhawk tony and lh have posted it.

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Everytime each of these high-priced standalones finally moves out of the shelf... Sony gets a piece of their profit. OUCH!

-xplaytendo
the BDA gets a cut of the profit, by which sony is a member, not the leader.

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No wonder they can't lower the price. Oh, that and MONOPOLY

-xplaytendo
Why should they lower the price, several big box stores sell them on discount already, and ps3 is outselling the 360 for the past 3 months. I don't see any reason to drop the price.

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Question is: These partners.... ARE THEY STILL SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS, OR PROGRESSED TO SHOOTING THEIR FEET?

-xplaytendo
Sony has put a huge amount of money into this technology. And they did lead the BDA, not as a president, but more of a member who contributes a lot. Why should the partners care when they are still making money, with the minimum amount of input?

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If this keeps up, the Recession Generation may just do the UNTHINKABLE... like purchase a Super Upconverter for HALF the price! Who knows, maybe by that time, the PS3 will sell for $200.

-xplaytendo
the recession is nothing. If i can make 1400 a month without a degree and go to college at the same time, i think i can afford a little 400$ machine.

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the price is fine for the most advanced format product. Hell most advanced ipod is more than that.

Good point. New technology is usually a bit pricey to help cover the research costs and early marketing pushes. Some of us got spoiled by Toshiba's market penetration approach to pricing, but I'm always amazed at the people who claim to have spent $2,000+ on HD-DVDs and then say that they can't afford a player that costs more than $150.

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the recession is nothing. If i can make 1400 a month without a degree and go to college at the same time, i think i can afford a little 400$ machine.

Ah a Blu-Ray fanboy. Welcome!

So you think the recession is nothing, huh? Well, your perception of what REAL & what's diluted in your brain pretty much sums up my assumptions of your replies.... ABSOLUTELY USELESS.

At this point: I think I'll take Tim Raynor's advice, after your so-many-useless comments from the past- "Ignore him. The guy is as dumb as a roof shingle." That's on PAGE 1 of this thread. The MAN OF MANY PICTURES only talks when need be.

Thanks, Tim. GOOD ADVICE.

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[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 14, 2008]

Again, don't shut yourselves with the 'one format only' theory...we have three gaming consoles, the XBOX 360, the PS3, and the mighty Wii (regardless of the original XBOX, PS2, or Game Cube, and the PSP, Gameboy and, well MS doesn't have a handheld).

The take off of blu-ray, or any other format, has to happen regardless of competition...it has to do mainly with a good marketing strategy that could involve consumer awareness, prices, etc...

Regardless of the BDA or HD DVD groups, there is always a 'leader' or a company that is stronger, or a flagship company for HD DVD it was Toshiba, for blu-ray is Sony, I don't think anyone would disagree. However, this doesn't mean that Sony or Toshiba alone get all the money from what's sold, we all get that too, right?

I, since I don't own any blu-ray players, don't check up on blu-ray media prices that often, so I can't say whether they have spiked or dropped, but we are still seeing many BOGO sales online and in stores.

However, since blu-ray has no direct competition, it makes finanacial and business sense to keep prices as they are, or get the higher, as long as consumers keep interested in the format, and the purchase of hardware won't slow down. Yes, eventually prices will go down, but not for right now, again, unless the cost of manufacturing hardware goes down.

A $200 blu-ray player with 1080i I think would be a selling point for most Average Joes out there (and why not, myself included), since most of us don't own 1080p sets. It's not that expensive, but it's not cheap either. Also, lowering media prices is a must....to play in your players.

Whatever happens, we are kinda screwed, for there is no direct competition now...and no, I (having being a HD DVD supporter) do not consider DVD2 a 'threat', DVD is...

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A $200 blu-ray player with 1080i I think would be a selling point for most Average Joes out there

There is no manufacturing cost difference between an 1080i player and an 1080p player. Toshiba did that solely for the marketing reason.

Skyhawk, I didn't go to the link because I assumed you thought I didn't know that Panasonic makes Blu-ray players. Yes I do understand that the companies compete, however I think they should compete more, its been 2 years, I think $400 or more is ridiculous.
LH, I understand that Sony has finally got to be with the winning team, however the majority of people are still with DVD.

Just to let you guys know, I'm not an HD-DVD fanboy, I'm format neutral, I just happen to hate Sony and overpricing.

Hell If everyone wanted to they could get the LG combo drive for like $200, if they have a good PC.

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LH, I understand that Sony has finally got to be with the winning team, however the majority of people are still with DVD.

Like me(still smiling, still happy)!

As for Jimi (LH),

"Jimi, your father, John McCain, while a POW in Vietnam, hid this watch up his ass. I now give the watch to you."

hey xplay maybe if you are going to let tim decide who is dumb as a roof shingle, maybe you can let him decide who he was talking about(spoonard). Then you can see that you just wrote something with the wrong assumption again. Talk about shooting for the high score. FAIL

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At this point: I think I'll take Tim Raynor's advice, after your so-many-useless comments from the past- "Ignore him. The guy is as dumb as a roof shingle." That's on PAGE 1 of this thread. The MAN OF MANY PICTURES only talks when need be.

As the prof said, you aimed for the wrong guy and missed xplay. Tim may as well have said that line about you.

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Ah a Blu-Ray fanboy. Welcome!

And you're an HD fanboy. What's your point? Oh I almost forgot, you never seem to have one.