Re: ZDNET: Blu Ray prices SPIKE!

Woooff! Look at all the IDIOTS coming out of the woodwork! Very nice. I got gvortex who thinks they 'disservice' themselves by 'owning' an upconverter, and theprof00 who thinks the collaboration of the super upconverter, will somehow crimp the blu ray flow....A MINDLESS COLLABORATION of DODO BIRDS truely afraid of competition. The punchline: The Super Upconverter is STILL NOT OUT YET, & these boobs are already threatened.

Keep the FLAME ON folks, while I savor OLDBOY in my PS3, you go gather amongst yourselves & compare BLANK NOTES...I love having GROUPIES!

[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 14, 2008]

Actually, HD DVD and your beloved DODO bird (very original if I may add) have a lot in common. They're both extinct. Just like your sense of humor xplay.

OK OK OK enough
Prof and gvort, HD DVD owners did spend a lot of money on a format that eventually lost out to blu ray, so plunking down another 500 bucks for a player that is (at best) uncertain as to how good it will operate when 2.0 comes out is going to take awhile. I also make 1400 a paycheck and 500 dollars still seems like a lot to me. That is just me and my own opinion.
By the way, I own a 60 gb PS3 that I purchased in the summer of 2007, and after the smoke cleared, it was close to 1000 bucks too. The wife is not letting me forget that bill.
I own Pirates trilogy, blazing saddles, 300, terminator 2, total recall and cars.
I also own A30 and A35 with 30 movie titles because at 10 bucks a piece, can't beat that.

Silverado, I never had an issue with HD DVD in the first place, as a matter of fact I almost bought an HD-A2 in December of 2006, months before I bought my first Blu-ray player. And if HD DVD would have prevailed, I would have gladly bought a unit or two and continued enjoying high definition media on it for years to come.
What I do have a problem with is people like xplay (resentful HD fanboy) who cannot carry on a normal discussion without disrespecting someone (by name calling) with a differing opinion. He's a total hypocrite (like the rest of his kin) by believing that since HD DVD didn't become the HDM format of choice, that DVD, DVD 2.0, HD VMD or even downloadable HD content will definitely hamper the adoption of Blu-ray, not to mention its supposed high price. It's all BS. Oh and let's throw the impending possibility of recession into the mix as well. As if that wouldn't have occurred if Toshiba's format would have prevailed. There are just way too many double standards coming from that side of the isle.

If people really believe $400 (in today's value) is over-priced for a quality Blu-ray player (or PS3), then you should just stick with DVD prices, -or- IF adopting into Blu-ray at some point, just RENT the discs since buying them is apparently not affordable (based on the gripes posted here). Note: I've purchased my Blu-ray discs for between $10 to $20 on average, and also RENT them too.

And I also support manufacturers MAKING A PROFIT ON THE TECHNOLOGY THEY BRING US! Why should studios etc care about movies, concerts, TV shows, and their home video equivalents if not able to make a FAIR PROFIT from their investments?

And prices will come down somewhat in time, as more adoption takes place, and more companies and promotions arrive. Just noticed a few minutes ago a reduction for Warner's Blu-ray of I AM LEGEND - just $18.99 on Amazon, whereas it was $24.95 before.

-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Mar 15, 2008]

I don't wana go against you Hendrix, but I Am Legend is a lame disc release...it's not worth our money or time...specially the LAME 'new ending'...

And you are right by saying about the profits, and once again, we can say Yes or No when buying something...WE HAVE THE SOLUTION, not them...

Really? I said yes to HD DVD and that option was taken away from me. I really don't know how long DVD will be an option either. Now that we have 1 hidef format I'm pretty sure the studios want to faze out DVD to make people rebuy their movies on bluray and to stop DVD piracy (hopefully) with BD+. Sony of course would love for this to happen since they are the principal financial backer of bluray so they will reap the most rewards if/when this comes true.

For the next six months, I'm just going to be very patient about what I buy, as the Blu-ray camp is likely to do a major push from September-December with lots of promotions on both hardware and software. Even without an HD War, they (and the studios) obviously want many people to adopt Blu-ray over DVD, so there's still a big incentive to convert more buyers, which will translate to lower prices. The prices probably won't be as low as they would have been with HD-DVD still running strong, but all things considered given the point in Blu-ray's life cycle, I'll be more than happy with discs in the $15-$22 range. Regardless of what you think of I Am Legend, an $18.95 Blu-ray of a major release is a good sign: to get the same extras, the 2-disc DVD is $22.99.

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Now that we have 1 hidef format I'm pretty sure the studios want to faze out DVD...

Very true.

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...to make people rebuy their movies on bluray and to stop DVD piracy (hopefully) with BD+.

Well, that's won't work either, considering Slysoft AnyDVD software already decrypted BD+
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071108-blu-rays-drm-crown-jewel-tarnished-with-crack-of-bd.html

The decrypted hi-def movies are already flooding the net (in whatever 'transfer' form a user wishes), while the term blu ray, is hardly a household name. THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM. The only slowdown to BD piracy, is the expensive price of a blu ray burner & blank platter... for now. Given time & manufacturer competition (with cheaper parts & production), both will go down in price, just like the DVD burners & blank platters of today.

So pushing blu ray to consumers, as a better way to stave off piracy... is VERY VERY temporary.
It will always be a game of tag between the Backers & the Hackers in this medium, everytime Group A patches platter... only to be HACKED the next week, by Group B.
The Studios will need to think of something else.

[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 16, 2008]

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Well, that's won't work either, considering Slysoft AnyDVD software already decrypted BD+

And months and months after that announcement, AnyDVD HD edition still doesn't decrypt BD+, only AACS.
http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html

But it's a moot point IMO, since few of the pirated DVD movies I've seen seem to be copies of the consumer DVD anyway. It's a bit obvious that studios, or the companies employed by the studios have a little insider problem.