Re: BR prices down in spite of

Deadmeat is correct. I've been watching the price of the Panasonic BDP30 since January on Amazon. It bounces all over the place from $411 in January to $499 now and MUCH HIGHER through a few rip off third vendors. We'll see what happens when the BDP-50 comes out. I'm interested in either of those or the Oppo when it materializes.

sorry tim and jimi i was pulling your leg a little here.
I'm just tired of reading the same thing i said to you guys.
such as prices are up, monopoly, sony "royalties", endless list of baseless rantings....

prices are only up right now because adoption is up, and there are less players to buy because companies did not expect such growth in the area. sales are up for hddvd because they are waging a massive blowout sale.

i'm a little sick of all the speculation on how sony sucks and how they are screwing the consumer. I have quite a few sony products now and have had none of them fail, compared to the other products i own, jvc, matsushita, hp computer(built a new one myself, sick of all the cheap parts and failures), acer, samsung, bose, apple(ipod, itunes [interference with other programs], old imac), panasonic tv, nintendo ds, original xbox, vista, windows xp, zune, lg dvdwriter, intel chip, radeon card, nikon camera, WD HDD, and so on, all have failed.
as far as my sony products go, my ps2 and ps1 still work. Ps3 plays great for games and movies. Sony Cybershot has had none of the problems my old cameras have had. A 6 year old DVD sony drive. Home theater speakers that have never blown out despite thesound level i keep it at during movie playback, and no trouble with the cabling and connections like i had with my old system, Digix. I bought a Sony Minidisc player back when they first came out. Used it for about a year, then got an ipod. Every year or so my ipod crapped out, or itunes messed up. During those off times i used the MD since it was small, held about 200 songs and had very loud, clear, output. Had a laptop with a sony battery that crapped out. they sent me a new one within a week.
I just don't get what the big fuss is, and i probably never will, when i know how much i have spent on failed products, compared to the sony products i've bought which still hold up, some of which after 5 years of use.
Now then, I have never gone out and specifically bought a sony product. It is not my intention to be loyal to one company. I simply buy something, which at the time is technologically new, or of great value. some of the things i own just happen to be sony. However, when things crap out, i instantly know it wasn't a sony product.
That's my deal, that's it.
I wish you would all stop condemning them for BR (incompleteness) or whatever is on the menu, when they have never let me down before, or if they had (the battery) made up for it right away with no hassle or extra payment.

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i'm a little sick of all the speculation on how sony sucks and how they are screwing the consumer. I have quite a few sony products now and have had none of them fail, compared to the other products i own

How can it be speculation when almost everyone has had problems with every manufacturer. Sony walkman mp3 players are notorious for stopping playback and erasing files (on my third one). You get what you pay for. If Sony can mark the Ps3 for $399 and thier SA for $600 (price check on amazon) doesn't that raise a red flag?? The ps3 is the only one that is ready for 2.0, fast load times, ethernet connection, BD live ready and plays games, yet it is cheaper than all the SA players out there? It sounds to me that Sony is throwing the other manufacturers under a bus and outpricing their SA products (including thier own) to flood the market with PS3's and create a bigger market for the gaming aspect. Lose money on BD and make money with gaming.

This is my opinion and should only be taken as such.

Look, buying electronics of any brand is like buying fruit . . . it's a gamble. So you've had great luck with Sony products, obvious others have not. My first DVD player was a Sony and only lasted 4-years -- I might have expected longer due to the product name, but oh well, that's life. My Sony Home Theatre system lasted 5.5-years before taking a dump, but how do I know that's life span I should expect for the product?! I own a PS2 (refurbished), for 3-years now, and have still yet to see it go down -- but I do know other people that have had horrible luck with their PS2.

I'm certainly not on the Sony hate wagon, as others are, but I will admit I feel their "name" is overrated. Seems to me their products are hit or miss, but then so are other electronic brand names -- don't even get me started on Radioshack's "Realistic" brand!

What's tiring is not Sony itself -- it's the constant threads on these forums talking about Sony or Blu-ray or HD, etc., etc., ect. . . The format war is over kids, get new parts for your head and move on!

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Sony is throwing the other manufacturers under a bus and outpricing their SA products (including thier own) to flood the market with PS3's

Sony HAS to price the PS3 aggresively or it wouldn't be able to compete with the 360. The decision to put the Blu player in the PS3 was a double-edged sword for Sony. On hand hand they had the Trojan Horse for the HD war, but they also had to price it to be competitive in the gaming market. Does this hurt other manufacturers that make Blu players?? Maybe, but most people I know buy dedicated decks for watching movies, not a gaming machine.

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Lose money on BD and make money with gaming.

Loss is so great that SCEI could not make it back from gaming revenue.

Basically, Microsoft now controls the majority(60%) of next-gen game software revenue, with SCEI holding less than 18% share.
When there are multiplatform titles, gamers usually prefer Xbox 360 versions to PS3 versions since 360 versions are almost always better.

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Basically, Microsoft now controls the majority(60%) of next-gen game software revenue

We all know where you pulled that figure from. Basically, because it stinks!

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/03/spin-art-micros.html
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/29865/Microsoft-Almost-half-of-all-games-revenue-is-ours
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/03/february-npd-ps.html

Can you state even one claim that's not just a made up lie? Come on... you can do it at least once!

Five of the top 10 Best selling games are XBOX 360 games on that NPD article. Pretty impressive.

not only that skyhawk, but scei already posted net profit earlier this year
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/story/7593/
far from scei losses are so great that they won't be making profit. It took them one year. took the 360 2 &half years.
not to wage war on 360, but your facts are made up deameat.

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not only that skyhawk, but scei already posted net profit earlier this year

4q2007 profit came from unexpectedly strong PS2(Pure profit since they are dirt cheap to make) and PSP sales. PS3 still loses money and Sony CFO doesn't expect to break even on PS3 hardware until March 2009.