Re: BR prices down in spite of

And I don't expect Deadmeat to stop making crap up until March 2022, when he finally matures and realizes nobody actually believes a damn thing he says.

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And I don't expect Deadmeat to stop making crap up until March 2022, when he finally matures and realizes nobody actually believes a damn thing he says.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/business/news/e3i7d49b23ff1cbe31adf8562819bd429f0

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Feb 1, 2008

Sales of the PlayStation Portable were up by 1.1 million units to 5.8 million, though game sales for the console fell by 3 million to 18 million.

Despite the improved games performance, the division was still in the red due to the loss Sony incurs on each unit of the PS3 it sells.

"We have reduced losses on the PS3 due to production cost-savings but don't expect the game division to become profitable until the second half of the next fiscal year," Oneda said.

Now do you believe? Straight from the mouth of Sony CFO confirming SCEI still loses big chunk of money on every PS3 sold?

[Post edited by Deadmeat on Mar 26, 2008]

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[Post edited by xplaytendo on Mar 26, 2008]

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Loss is so great that SCEI could not make it back from gaming revenue.

SCEI (Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.) did post a profit of $121 million on revenues of $5.45 billion in it's latest quarter reported, contrary to what you originally said - regardless of PSP, Accessories, Games, or PS2 sales that obviously helped it out). But nice backtracking on your earlier statement. Then you made up:

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Sony CFO doesn't expect to break even on PS3 hardware until March 2009.

And yet, the CFO said in your quote that it wouldn't post a PROFIT on the PS3 game division until the second half of the next fiscal year. Last I checked, SNE's next fiscal year starts April 1st, 2008 the middle of which is October 2008 and not March 2009.

Where on earth do you pull these fake dates and figures from? Actually, that was a rhetorical question...

And that lie about Microsoft controlling 60% of next-gen game software revenue? More of the same.

I never did argue the fact that Sony still sells its PS3 for a loss that it still is not yet making up on PS3 game revenues. However, there's no denying that game revenues are increasing while losses on consoles continue to shrink. In other words, they're following the XBox 360 financial model. So what?

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Mar 26, 2008]

Sky, when you talk about your PS3 constantly!, I have started to skip reading your posts.

funny how when you search for oneda saying that, it only comes up on one website, and when you type in ps3 goes into the black, you get about a hundred.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6573&Itemid=2
and in this interview he says they are likely to post profit margin by the fiscal year (end of march 2008) if they can keep costs down and sell more units. Apparantly they had a record high recently and costs are way way down.
do you only get your news from one source deadmeat???

interestingly enough this is also when all these sites are saying that game division went into the black.

[Post edited by theprof00 on Mar 26, 2008]

ReaggieP, that' perfectly fine. Besides I was probably talking about things you could never understand, like financials, profit, revenue, etc. which is likely how you mistook this about talk concerning my PS3 and not correcting false information.

BTW, did you hear that I can now watch youtube videos and flash plugin now works on my PS3?!

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Mar 26, 2008]

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SCEI (Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.) did post a profit of $121 million on revenues of $5.45 billion in it's latest quarter reported,contrary to what you originally said - regardless of PSP, Accessories, Games, or PS2 sales that obviously helped it out). But nice backtracking on your earlier statement. Then you made up:

But that's exactly what I said SCEI loses money on PS3, but they turned an unexpected profit as whole thanks to strong PS2 and PSP sales.

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Last I checked, SNE's next fiscal year starts April 1st, 2008 the middle of which is October 2008 and not March 2009.

Well, no PS3 profits for SCEI in October 2008. Forthcoming price cut ate PS3 profits.

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Where on earth do you pull these fake dates and figures from? Actually, that was a rhetorical question...

From Sony financial reports, of course.

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And that lie about Microsoft controlling 60% of next-gen game software revenue? More of the same.

60% of next-gen game software revenue. <- This is what matters to game publishers and game players.
42% of next-gen total revenue including hardware, software, and peripherals.

But game publishers only look at game software revenue, since this is where they make their money and the determining factor in gamer's game console purchase. The fact is that the majority of games sold today are for Xbox 360.

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However, there's no denying that game revenues are increasing while losses on consoles continue to shrink.

Not fast enough to catch up with Xbox 360 growth.

Latest million seller, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2, sold at a ratio of 3.7:1 on both consoles. When Xbox 360 version accounts for 77%~80% of game sales, it leaves game publishers no incentive to optimize or even put out a PS3 version.

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In other words, they're following the XBox 360 financial model. So what?

Xbox 360 hardware has been profitable since fall 2006. Microsoft can drop the Arcade Edition to $199 right now and still break even.

PS3 may have a long life as a game player, but its future as a game conole is bleak.

Most of 3rd party game engines arriving in 2009~2011 are for Xbox 360/PC only. Even SCEI's own game engine is forced to support Xbox 360(SCEI's PhyreEngine supports Xbox 360 in an attempt to attract 3rd parties that have gone Xbox 360 centric. The selling point of PhyreEngine to 3rd party developers is that it would support PS3 better than other commercial game engines).

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Well, no PS3 profits for SCEI in October 2008. Forthcoming price cut ate PS3 profits.

Funny, I missed the revised earnings outlook. Perhaps you know more about SNE's inside financials than the CEO? BS.

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Xbox 360 hardware has been profitable since fall 2006.

http://www.digitalbattle.com/2007/05/04/xbox-360-to-be-profitable-in-2008/

Maybe 2008. Maybe. We shall see.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Mar 26, 2008]