Re: New report: 30 million households will own a Blu-ray device in 2008

in all fairness skyhawk.... at least i get to enjoy transformers, v for vendetta, and batman begins in high def first.

plus, despite the loss, at least the hardware and technology worked first... and STILL works. what have you to say beyond "protective layer" and "high cap" discs?

i at least smile because blu-ray owners are still talking about what is yet to come, and hd-dvd got to enjoy first fully functioning hardware (too bad that advantage was short-lived)

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in all fairness skyhawk.... at least i get to enjoy transformers, v for vendetta, and batman begins in high def first.

This could very well be possible. For example we were only able to watch transformers HD DVD after dinner on its day & date release - around 7pm EST. So you might have indeed beat me to it.

Getting back on track w/o talking "blah blah" about 7pm dinner nonsense...

$400 for a player does not scream "great price."

If the mainstream of players is the PS3, then that's not fully effective to the blu-ray market. Blu-ray is only a side effect of owning a PS3. We are used to having a standalone player to do movies. I am not one to buy a gaming system to watch movies - that should come second.

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$400 for a player does not scream "great price."

To you perhaps. But my HD DVD player (HD-A2) was the cheapest model of 2nd generation players, and I paid considerably more for it than $400. I thought it was a good deal when I bought it and have no regrets. Between the 83 HD DVD movies I own and my zip.ca mail rental account, I've certainly put it to good use in the time I've owned it.

Everyone has different priorities and hobbies - mine is HT and movies, and $400 is pretty inconsequential for me when it allows me to experience my favorite films in the best quality possible. Some people are into golfing. I have a friend who recenty paid over $500 for a golf club. And he thinks I'm nuts!

Skyhawk, even in my time of grief you still manage to put a smile on my face. God Bless You.

[Post edited by tony1569 on Mar 27, 2008]

No offence guys. I find Sky a bit smug. Just an opinion of course. I can see the US adopting Blu-Ray a lot fast than say Canada. With little to no pressure on Canadians to get HD, or the lack of support by the CRTC there will only be a fewlike SKY, Falcon, and others at this forum that will adopt Blu-Ray. It's going to be hard to predict how many people will buy Blu. Sky, do Canadians have that expendible income? What do you do for a living?

Okay, in a nutshell, you may wanna pay $400. Others may not. In fact, a lower price is always what will appeal to a larger crowd. I myself cannot see paying $400 for Blu-Ray, (not a PS3 by the way), and this player not work all the way. When I want to pay money for a good piece of equipment (like you would sky), I want to see what this hardware does and if it is worth paying for.

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I thought it was a good deal when I bought it and have no regrets

You must really want your opinion to matter. Well, it doesn't hold anything against the hurtful truth. (see post above again sky... you know, the one with the crowd)

Ok you guys are getting personal. Let's remember these companies and studios don't give a rats ass about any of us, they just want our money. So for us to be fighting over their technology and movies is just plain nuts.

I'm also one of the few that thought HD DVD is/was superior but we no longer have that option so on to bluray it is. While it may not be perfect in it's current form, bluray is getting better and hopefully in time we will all be enjoying movies on the same systems and arguing about which movies we thought was better or which audio tracks we liked.

Just keep things in perspective.

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Sky, do Canadians have that expendible income?

Yes.

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What do you do for a living?

I'm on welfare just like everyone else in the glorious socialist republic of Canada!

But seriously now, I really find it hard to believe that the average middle income American would think $400 is too much to spend on their favorite hobby on a very occasional basis for something that should provide years of enjoyment. Heck, it costs a guy $100+ here just to take their wife to a nice resturant! (Which we don't do very often). I mean, how do Americans like yourself get their HDTVs, break into store front windows and run down the street with them?

And anyone who thinks a player has to be $150 or whatever before they'll bite isn't likely the type who will buy software either. Can you guess how much those 83 HD DVD titles I own cost in comparison to me paying almost $500 for the Toshiba player? Believe me, the player was a very, very small chunk in the total home theater expenditure scheme of things.

You don't even wanna know how much I paid for my first CD player!

Skyhawk there are SOME people that can afford $400 players but not many. DVD really took off when the players hit that magic $200 mark the companies keep talking about. For some reason thats the magic number for the mass consumer market to dive in. I don't know where they got that number from but I'm guessing it's based on previous sales trends from products like DVD.

Like I said there are people that can purchase a $400 player without a problem but for the mass consumer market to do so those prices have to come down. You have to remember these same people that cannot afford $400 are actually quite happy with DVD. Not everyone has a 100" screen with a receiver that can decode Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD etc, hidef players or expensive speakers. Heck a lot of people don't even use HDMI, they're still using composite or component cables.

[Post edited by Falcon01 on Mar 27, 2008]