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New members get to apply for the site's credit card, and get $100 credit, for any purchase $299 & up! FREE SHIPPING to top off the deal.

THE BEST BLU RAY PLAYER WITH ALL THE FEATURES, THAT NO OTHER BLU RAY COMPETITOR CAN TOUCH... FOR DIRT CHEAP PRICE.
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Yeeeeah... I'm not getting strung up in a Credit Card for that. Besides I want the MGS4 80 Gig Bundle...

Great heads-up xplaytendo!

Along with the fine Panasonic players, the Sony PS3 is the best quality player, great online support (firmware updates and constantly added features), excellent stability and movie BD compatibility, PS3 games, hi-def premium audio, multiple format playback, and DVD upconversion to 1080p as well.

And that $299 price (after becoming a new Sony card member) is perfect. I've owned the original 60GB model (since June 2007), and love it, along with other Msg Bd members here (Skyhawk, Tony, kucoloco, etc).

Backside of PS3 (pic below) with connections...


-JIMI (the Voodoo Child)

Oh God. Have we not already talked enough about how great the Ps3 is. Can't we talk about some recievers or something that decodes all the new codecs and how great they are? I already have the player,I need advice on extracting the best possible sound...for the cheapest price available. Hendix...This sounds like a thread for you bud.

That is not a new deal. Been around for long time now. Plus, as a HD DVD fan I will only buy a blu ray player from a company other than SONY. Sony can kiss my ........

"Best" is exaggerating a little. I personally prefer the Panasonic, it's the best for my needs.

Why do people keep thinking the PS3 is flawless?

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That is not a new deal. Been around for long time now. Plus, as a HD DVD fan I will only buy a blu ray player from a company other than SONY. Sony can kiss my ........

Can I interest you in a combo player from Samsung

Perhaps something in the line of the BD-UP5000

hoodaguy, flawless is a bit much (it will be flawless when they correct system crashes as a result from updating), but saying it's the best Blu-ray player for the buck is the spot on truth.

I still fail to see how after firmware updates you sometimes have to send in the unit for repairs, the lack of an IR remote, etc. as "best bang for the buck."

Don't get me wrong, it has been an excellent machine for many people. But by the same token, it has also become a huge nightmare.

[Post edited by hoodaguy on Apr 16, 2008]

Some of you folks need to let go of the Sony hate. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

PS3 is undoubtedly the best BD player to date.

I've given into the fact that Blu Ray won. I will buy a player when they come down in price and when the finished version is out(plays all features). However, Sony products will never be introduced into my house again. Not only because they purchased the movie studios but because they make poor quality products as well. Lots of bugs in everything they make. I have found that in some of the products I have owned from them and reading in forums.

wolfen - it has nothing to do with Sony hatred, it has to do with the quality of the product.

The only advantage the PS3 really has right now is that it is 2.0 compliant. For me, and I'm sure for a lot of people, that doesn't mean much since who really uses online features anyways?

I'd much prefer owning a player specifically and solely designed for Blu-ray playback, like my Panasonic. I've had no problems with it, and I haven't heard anybody else have problems with it either.

I just can't bring myself to say the same for the PS3 though. I've read threads about people having to send back the unit because it stopped playing all of a sudden. I've also read threads about people having to send back a unit after simply updating the firmware due to a glitch within the system.

Honestly, how is that the best? Oh, it's the best because you own it. Now I see. But I just hope for your sake that it continues to be one of the good machines, because from a realistic perspective, this sounds a lot like Russian Roulette to me.

i have a ps3. trading it with a friend for a panasonic player.

hoodaguy, I think since the format war is over your looking to start another war. STAND ALONE vs. PS3. To me the choice is obvious. What happen to all those agruements that HDDVD supporters gave when it came to their players being complete with internet connectivity. Now they settle for none at all. Like I said before the PS3 is not flawless. There are some issues with the PS3, update risks and no analogs but no other player can compete. Now when the Panasonic BD 50 comes out then there might be a new king of the hill but even then it's still not WiFi nor will it cost under $600. I don't need to spend an extra $200 just so the HD audio lights on my Onkyo can light up.

EDIT: The update risk exists in every player HDDVD or Blu-ray. If the file gets corrupted during the prcoess or if the process goes bad it's going to brick any HD machine not just the PS3. The reason why it'smore likely to happen to the PS3 because the machine is upgradeable from 1.0 to 2.0 profile.

[Post edited by tony1569 on Apr 16, 2008]

I'm not trying to start any wars, I'm just stating facts. If I had to choose between a reliable player that has had little to no reported problems, or the PS3 that has had to be sent back to the manufacturer from a glitch just from an update, I'd choose the Panasonic every single time.

I didn't like the PS3 before when it didn't have an IR remote, and I'm certainly loving my Panasonic a lot more knowing that I won't have to send the dang thing back if my firmware update goofs.

[Post edited by hoodaguy on Apr 16, 2008]

Well the one thing that I'm glad to see is that you're finally Blu. I don't care how you got here but at least you're here, because I thought you would never join the dark side. And as far as an IR remote $10 bucks and your harmony remote will solve that issue.

[Post edited by tony1569 on Apr 16, 2008]

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The update risk exists in every player HDDVD or Blu-ray. If the file gets corrupted during the prcoess or if the process goes bad it's going to brick any HD machine not just the PS3. The reason why it'smore likely to happen to the PS3 because the machine is upgradeable from 1.0 to 2.0 profile.

Sure, just like there is a risk that a meteor might crash into my player tomorrow night at 8 p.m. Central Time. Plain and simple, only the PS3 has had the major update problem so far. So yes, while risk may exist in every player, it's just not happening.

I see you're the same ol' hoodaguy. Always on a search and destroy mission. Now if we can just get your twin brother Invisible Biker to show we would have a family reunion.

What mission? I said the PS3 is fine for some people. I'm allowed to disagree that it is the best player though, because it most certainly isn't, and I'm sure I'm not the only person that says so. If I had one and that update mucked it up, I'd be furious. That's all I was saying.

Dam it hood I'm only messing with you! By the way which Panny do you have the BD30A or the BD30K?

BD30K

I just got my PS3 back today. Two weeks to the day. I updated it to v2.3. I must say that was quick service from SONY. I'm watching Aragon and the dts HD/MA track is playing. It sounds pretty good.

You know for $300 you get a great gaming console and a bluray player. It's not a bad deal.

The credit card thing though, I wouldn't do it.

Hoodaguy... why are you harping about a GAME CONSOLE not coming with a wireless remote (for playing movies)? Now I'm no fan of sony game consoles, either... but would you like it better if these game consoles included a remote control - and an additional 20 bucks to the price?

The XBOX 360 "game" consoles do NOT come with a remote (even though it DOES play standard DVD's), but the HD DVD add-on drive does include a wireless remote (although, the original price of the add-on drive is pretty pricey)! The MS 360 Universal remote is 20 bucks (IIRC), but there are third-party brand remotes for a lot less. I'm sure there are similar options for the ps3!

I still would have bought the HD DVD add-on drive - even if it didn't include the remote (and I bought mine before the huge price-drop). Of course, I bought one of the early 360 consoles that included a "Bonus Media Remote" (a limited-time promotion)... so I wouldn't have needed the universal remote, anyway!

Still... I can control any DVD (or HD DVD) functions with the wireless game controllers (albeit, with some clunky navigating with the on-screen controls / menus).

If you're going to bash the ps3... stick with important reasons to bash it... not because it doesn't include a wireless remote! Hell... I hate those damn "D-pads" that are just 4 separate buttons on the ps game controllers! I hated them when my friend wanted me to play a game on his (original) playstation way-back-when... and sony never bothered to improve their crappy controllers on later consoles. At least Microsoft improved on the original XBOX "duke" controllers and designed the much better "s"controllers. MS improves, sony continues to make crap!

[Post edited by Veteran-Viewer on Apr 17, 2008]

FYI...

> Movies & TV Shows coming to the PS3 Network? (includes reader comments following the report)



-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)

$2000.00 for a new 60 gig PS3 on AMAZON.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0009VXAM0/ref=pd_bbs_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1208485689&sr=8-1

What the...why would they try and charge $2,000 for a PS3??

People are having trouble buying the 40GB PS3's for $400.

I personally am holding out for the Sparkomatic/wsu-cevr 90001. This will be the player by which all others will be judged. 1090p resolution,DTScore 3audio dacs,Dolby Digital SUPER plus,and you dont need a television to use it. FANTASTIC. But the best thing of all,it only costs $199.99. Eat that Sony.

[Post edited by bladerunner1 on Apr 18, 2008]

hood guy i'm sorry to disagree but what facts are you talking about?
As far as the failure rate of the PS3, I am sure that it numbers in the less than 1% range, just like any other normal electronics.
This whole recent spur of code "093EE234EF" whatever has been blown way out of the water by only a very small minority. As of now, it is really the only failure message and so most people with failures get it. Then, being the popular fail memo, a lot of people (>1% of 11million) google it or create a site for it. The code itself is something rather trite. Anyhow, that "news" is passing and is just a simple gambit by the opposition to give ps3 some bad press.

FYI... another PS3 new feature!

> Sony quietly introduces YouTube Uploading capability from the PS3...

Mainichi Issho, a Japan-only PlayStation Network game that's been out since 2006, has quietly brought a pretty killer function to the PlayStation 3. Players can now record gameplay and upload clips to YouTube from within the console. Better still, Sony has confirmed that the toolset will be distributed to developers to integrate into games at their discretion. With the popularity of fan videos and YouTube, it's great to see Sony embracing networks outside of their own. Good stuff, and forward-thinking on Sony's part.

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)

I could have purchased the PS3 last month, but I didn't because there simply isn't any games that make me feel like I absolutely have to have it! I love playing console games, and the PS3 lacks in the WOW factor for games - way too many been there-done that games. Then again, I also decided not to support a company that has easily shown greedy business practices -- not that other companies don't do the same, but it's like Nixon in Watergate, they got exposed and I'm just not going to support them when they have clearly been caught for being a bunch of greedy bastards. There are plenty of manufactures out there making Brooo-ray players and a few of them rated very well, and yes, you CAN beat SONY by not joining them.

I'd have to say I'm with Hoody on this one, however, I don't need a bunch of technical facts or fiction to base my choice. I simply will not support SONY for their cut-throat business practices, pretty much the same reason I don't support Blockbuster. Again, I realize most companies have their dirty tricks to sell their product, but when they get caught for it I feel as a consumer I owe it to myself to make a stand simply because of ethics and morals. I'm very happy with my LG BH200 and it performs the tasks that I need to . . . well, make me happy and pleased with my product. Plus the added feeling knowing I didn't buy SONY makes me feel even better. And please don't give me the "you bought a Brooo-ray player and that supports SONY crap!" Remember, it's a BH200 and plays HD DVD, as well.

So, for me, it's not a matter so much for technical aspects as it is for fair busniess practice. I was going the spend and extra $100 for the Panasonic Brooo-ray but lucked out in finding the $800 LG for half-price. And I couldn't be happier!

Tim I'm going to buy a machine next week sometime and so far I'm leaning towards the LG BH200, same as you have. I was leaning towards the PS3 for a while because of some games coming out but I like having ONE machine that plays BOTH formats. That's a big bonus for me and a great convenience. We'll see, I may change my mind again by Tuesday/Wednesday but the reviews on the LG 200 have made me lean towards it, even though I think it's ugly as hell but oh well...I'm buying it for practicality. Oh ya it's on sale for $399 ($100 off) which also helps.

Now whether to get the Yamaha 6160 or 6180.

Falcon, I think Future Shop and Best Buy Canada still have amazing deals on the LG BH-200 and the Samsung BD-UP5000...should be in the $399 range...but you can talk them down

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but the reviews on the LG 200 have made me lean towards it, even though I think it's ugly as hell but oh well...I'm buying it for practicality. Oh ya it's on sale for $399 ($100 off) which also helps.

Ugly as hell! LMAO!!! I guess I never thought of it as ugly, as most the players kind of look alike to me. I guess if you mean ugly because it's big and bulky like old DVD players from the late 90's, well, you got me there! I'll admit, though, I do like the little blue-halo lit buttons -- kind of cute, actually. lol

The price sure has dropped on the BH200 over the last month, of course I really have no clue how long it's been on the market. When I purchased mine at BB about a month ago it was listed for $799, but I lucked out and found an open box one for $399. It still came with the warranty, plus the option to get the manufactures extended, so I really had nothing to lose. When I went to buy it I was intending to get the Panasonic Brooo-ray, but when I saw an $800 item for half the price the jackpot lights went on in my head! I actually called John while I was in the store and had him look up reviews on the BH200 for me. Of course, John was more than tickled to help me spend my money. lol

If anything, the big sale for me was that it played HD's, as well. I've heard all the Towners here battle over which was better during the past year, and by getting the BH200, it gave me a chance to see for myself. I realize Blu is where the format is going, and I don't buy as many HD discs but it's nice to know I can. Plus, the upconverting looks very good on the machine. I was watching Raiders of the Lost Ark (prep for new Indiana Jones movie) and it certainly looked like a better picture than I had with my old TV and DVD player. I'm very pleased all around with the player so far and I really can't say anything bad about it -- at least, I haven't found anything to make me unhappy about it.

Tim, im so proud to hear you talk about actual HD media adoption... still cant believe it. dont know what to do with al this happyness

Like the others I'd like to commend Tim on his excellent (first) choices since becoming an HD adopter recently...

HDTV purchase - a 1080p Panasonic Plasma

Hi-def player purchase - LG Combo player (both Blu-ray and HD-DVD formats, also DVD upconversion)

^Both of these products are well-recommended, quality made, and should provide much enjoyment over many years. I'm hoping my endorsement of plasma tech helped convince you Tim (a little) in deciding on a great plasma TV (at a great price). (as we need DVDTOWN's best asset to have great HD equipment now, right!)

(plasma TVs do operate a little hotter then LCD TVs, obviously, but that's normal, and are made to last a long time, compared to plasmas from about 8-10 years ago).

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)

Plus I've had enough money left over for:





Yes, them there plasmas are much better than they were a few years ago. They wen't from "ok" picture to best picture on the lot. Plus the life span being 8-years in hours (mind you, that's if you turn the set on and never turn it off, it will last up to 8-years, at least that's what the rednecks tell me). I'm so excited it almost peed my pants!

Even better for you! You didn't have to pay Sony that much. Only about $50 or $60 for the Blu-Ray licence...

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Even better for you! You didn't have to pay Sony that much. Only about $50 or $60 for the Blu-Ray licence...

Yes, but from what others have mentioned, that $50 is shared between other orgs. in the Brooo-ray camp, so it doesn't ALL go to SONY. Kind of like I can't esacpe giving money to SONY when it's a movie backed with their money, SONY pictures! But as long as I'm not buying their electronic gadgets and toys, that will have to do.

I am SOOOO glad now that players are coming down in price, so that we don't have to hear any more about how the PS3 is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel. I have no interest in a gaming system as my DVD player, especially when you can't really use it as a gaming system, since there are so few games worth playing.

I picked up my BH200 today ($345 at Future Shop - it was an open box item, but so what?). I'm watching Twister now, and I absolutely love it. I plugged it in, and it is playing flawlessly. I can't even say that about my A30, which had some issues with the audio and video synching, though it was mostly fixed with the firmware update. If you live in Canada, and you want to buy Blu (especially if you already own HD DVD), RUN to Future Shop and pick up the LG before they're out at $399. I can't find anyone saying anything negative about this player (ugly? seriously?), but the Samsung, which is the same price, seems to be buggy as hell. Anyway, back to those killer tornadoes!

interplanetaryspy, I could be wrong... but I don't think the BH200 has many games worth playing either. Then again, I don't own one and have no idea what kind of games it can play. So correct me if I'm wrong.

...(^above)...

Well, apparently the LG BH200 can be updated to profile 2.0 so if it gets done it WILL be playing games off bluray discs. So there. :p

I believe I said something to the effect of why would I buy a gaming console as my DVD player, when it can't really be used as a gaming console? I never said I wanted to play games, I just said that, if I bought a PS3, I'd expect that there would be something worth playing. Since there isn't, and now there are actual stand-alone Blu players in the same range, there is no need for a PS3.

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Well, apparently the LG BH200 can be updated to profile 2.0 so if it gets done it WILL be playing games off bluray discs.

Profile 2.0 is only needed for online play. You should be able to play games like "Battle for Narnia" on disk 2 of the Narnia movie without any problems. Although I haven't tried it, I've heard good things about that game.

FYI...



> BioShock is headed to the PS3 - is exclusivity dying?

This is great news for the Sony console, as BioShock was originally an exclusive for the Xbox 360 and PC. - READ MORE thru the link above, followed by viewer comments.

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)

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interplanetaryspy, I could be wrong... but I don't think the BH200 has many games worth playing either. Then again, I don't own one and have no idea what kind of games it can play. So correct me if I'm wrong.

Well, you know how the kiddie movies always have those interactive games in the special features . . . LMAO!!!

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This is great news for the Sony console, as BioShock was originally an exclusive for the Xbox 360 and PC. - READ MORE thru the link above, followed by viewer comments.

Not really. Every single multiplatform title released to date has been inferior on PS3, and there is a good reason it is an inferior hardware gaming wise.

How inferior is PS3 next to Xbox 360? So much so that Xbox 360 runs PS3 code faster than PS3 does. The latest GRID fall out(a hyped Xbox 360/PS3 game that runs on SCEI's PhyreEngine, but the developer confesses the game runs faster and better on Xbox 360. In other word, Xbox 360 is running "Built for PS3" code faster than PS3 does) has most hardcore PS3 fans speechless.

On November, is going to be two years after the inception of the PS3 and the Wii, and three years after the XBOX 360...

We can all agree that the best system overall, is the XBOX 360, followed very, very closely by the Wii and way falling back, the PS3 . The XBOXs keep having problems with the RRoD, the Wiis are in shortage, the the PS3s have the "blu-ray challenge" built into them.

IMO, the main reason why there are problems with the PS3 is that it was rushed, that for some reason, Sony didn't have enought time, or R&D money to invest into this new monster (no, I'm not referring to blu-ray ), and we can say that it lacks...it lacks games...it lacks realiability...it lacks...

XBOX Live is the king (and by the way, GTA4 online gaming SUCKS), and it has its right to be. My brother has an XBOX 360 (a replacement while he gets his original fixed from the RRoD )...I'm looking on buying a Wii (I would like for a black Wii, but that might take longer)...and the PS3 is the best option for a blu-ray player...

Now, there is a problem when a 360 runs PS3 code faster, or better than the actual PS3, but that shows a lack of commitment to a 'sure seller' like the PS3...

PS3's graphics was just reviewed (again for the 3rd time by Gamespot) against the XBOX 360 through a human eye (not against those technical numbers you see in a sheet of paper). The verdict: NO BIG WHOOP DEE DOO on the PS3 platform.
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6191251/

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Note: This model will not play PlayStation® 2 games, but is backwards compatible with PS one® games.

HUH???


-JS

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So much so that Xbox 360 runs PS3 code faster than PS3 does.

Of course, if cell processor op-code could actually be executed on the XBox, (let alone have a compatible memory addressing scheme and multi-processing paradigm), you might be talking out of something other than your butt.

Yeah, and the Commodore 64 can run 360 code, just more slowly right?